Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-26 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, Holger Wansing hwans...@mailbox.org wrote: Defaulting to a graphical (gtk) frontend on i386 and amd64 would mean that it becomes the regular frontend, unless it is desired to credit the newt frontend with some special status. From a global point of view, the graphical

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org (2014-08-19): While I don't have a definitive opinion on the ordering of the menu choices, I definitively think amd64 should be picked by default on amd64 architectures. Especially since multiarch, there's no good reason left for installing i386 on

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-19 Thread Brian Potkin
On Mon 18 Aug 2014 at 23:07:11 +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: I have prepared a patch for this (attached) and I would like to receive some thoughts on it. I have added Samuel Thibault in CC, since he has also some knowledge and interest on the d-i manual. Basically I moved the chapter

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-19 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, Brian Potkin claremont...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon 18 Aug 2014 at 23:07:11 +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: I have prepared a patch for this (attached) and I would like to receive some thoughts on it. I have added Samuel Thibault in CC, since he has also some knowledge and interest

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-19 Thread Brian Potkin
On Tue 19 Aug 2014 at 17:39:18 +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: Brian Potkin claremont...@gmail.com wrote: Defaulting to a graphical (gtk) frontend on i386 and amd64 would mean that it becomes the regular frontend, unless it is desired to credit the newt frontend with some special status.

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Holger Wansing hwans...@mailbox.org (2014-08-19): Hi, Brian Potkin claremont...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon 18 Aug 2014 at 23:07:11 +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: I have prepared a patch for this (attached) and I would like to receive some thoughts on it. I have added Samuel

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-19 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org wrote: Holger Wansing hwans...@mailbox.org (2014-08-19): Hi, Brian Potkin claremont...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon 18 Aug 2014 at 23:07:11 +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: I have prepared a patch for this (attached) and I would like to receive

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 01:17:02AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: [ Adding -accessibility@ and -cd@ to the loop. ] Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com (2014-08-17): On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 01:25:28PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Control: tag -1 confirmed Another issue is that it requires much

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com (2014-08-19): or do we split things even more? That menu is already too long, and causes scrolling for people to see the lower options (if they realise such a thing is possible!). How about we split things up some more, assuming we can get the auto-detect to

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:58:27PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com (2014-08-19): or do we split things even more? That menu is already too long, and causes scrolling for people to see the lower options (if they realise such a thing is possible!). How about we split

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-18 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org wrote: Holger Wansing hwans...@mailbox.org (2014-08-17): That would lead to more changes to the d-i manual IMO. Indeed, and since you were updating the manual already I thought it might make sense to batch everything together. At least: booting of

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-18 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi Holger, and thanks for the proposed patch! Holger Wansing hwans...@mailbox.org (2014-08-18): Index: en/boot-installer/x86.xml === --- en/boot-installer/x86.xml (Revision 69238) +++ en/boot-installer/x86.xml (Arbeitskopie) @@

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Mon 18 Aug 2014 23:36:03 +0200, a écrit : +notepara + +The graphical installer requires significantly more memory to run than +the regular installer: minimum-memory-gtk;. If insufficient memory is +available, it will automatically fall back to the regular

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Helloo, Holger Wansing, le Mon 18 Aug 2014 23:07:11 +0200, a écrit : Basically I moved the chapter Appendix D.6. The Graphical Installer to 5.1.8 (at the end of Booting the installer on 32-bit PC), leaving the content unchanged. And I moved chapter Appendix D.6.1. Using the graphical

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-18 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (2014-08-18): Now, hurd-i386 doesn't need caring about; kfreebsd-* architectures are looking quite badly already, so I won't change anything on those right now. I expect arm* people to tell us whether any change is needed for those, but since I see no menu

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-18 Thread Cyril Brulebois
[ Adding -accessibility@ and -cd@ to the loop. ] Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com (2014-08-17): On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 01:25:28PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Control: tag -1 confirmed Another issue is that it requires much more memory, but that IMO is not a blocker. It does require

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-18 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Hoy, Le mardi, 19 août 2014, 01.17:02 Cyril Brulebois a écrit : The default is Install right now, which installs i386. The topic of this bug report is switching to Graphical install by default, but shouldn't we also promote amd64 by default while we're at it? This would mean having 64 bit

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-17 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Control: tag -1 confirmed Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl (2008-06-10): On Tuesday 10 June 2008, Didier Raboud wrote: In my humble opinion, with the stability (and the beauty) of the graphical installer, the graphical menu (under i386 and amd64) should default to the graphical installer.

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-17 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 01:25:28PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Control: tag -1 confirmed Another issue is that it requires much more memory, but that IMO is not a blocker. It does require careful documentation though. Holger's last reports reminded of this, which we finally didn't do for

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-17 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org wrote: Control: tag -1 confirmed Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl (2008-06-10): On Tuesday 10 June 2008, Didier Raboud wrote: In my humble opinion, with the stability (and the beauty) of the graphical installer, the graphical menu (under i386 and amd64)

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-17 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Holger Wansing hwans...@mailbox.org (2014-08-17): That would lead to more changes to the d-i manual IMO. Indeed, and since you were updating the manual already I thought it might make sense to batch everything together. At least: booting of the graphical installer is now only documented in an

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2008-06-10 Thread Didier Raboud
Package: debian-installer Severity: wishlist Hi, In my humble opinion, with the stability (and the beauty) of the graphical installer, the graphical menu (under i386 and amd64) should default to the graphical installer. Obviously, the change has to be done with care and only on arches where

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2008-06-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 10 June 2008, Didier Raboud wrote: In my humble opinion, with the stability (and the beauty) of the graphical installer, the graphical menu (under i386 and amd64) should default to the graphical installer. Obviously, the change has to be done with care and only on arches where