Bug#487585: [pkg-wpa-devel] Bug#487585: Bug#487585: Bug#487585: Doesn't associate with wext driver, consider readding madwifi.

2008-06-26 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Matthew \mentor\ Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 22:07 +0800, Glenn Saberton wrote:
 I think it would be beneficial to all if the people that are
 experiencing problems with the current debian madwifi package with the
 current wpasupplicant package, that they would actually supply some
 debug info to the relevant upstream so it could be fixed there rather
 than continue down a deprecated path. As a reasonably long time user of
 both madwifi and wpasupplicant with several atheros chips and no
 problems using wext, I think it would be more useful to find the cause
 of the problem than revert to using code that no-one wants to support.

 Yeah, I'd like this too.

Cool, great to hear.

you probably already know how the pkg-wpa team works. We have a team svn
where we maintain the wpasupplicant and hostap package. I'd suggest that
you checkout these branches, work on them and attach 'svn diff's to the
relevant bugs in debbugs, which I'll review and apply.

If you have further questions, feel free to ask either me directly or on
[EMAIL PROTECTED], the mailing list where
we are coordinating and discussing things. You should subscribe there as
well.

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Bug#487585: [pkg-wpa-devel] Bug#487585: Bug#487585: Bug#487585: Doesn't associate with wext driver, consider readding madwifi.

2008-06-25 Thread Matthew mentor Bell
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 22:07 +0800, Glenn Saberton wrote:
 I think it would be beneficial to all if the people that are
 experiencing problems with the current debian madwifi package with the
 current wpasupplicant package, that they would actually supply some
 debug info to the relevant upstream so it could be fixed there rather
 than continue down a deprecated path. As a reasonably long time user of
 both madwifi and wpasupplicant with several atheros chips and no
 problems using wext, I think it would be more useful to find the cause
 of the problem than revert to using code that no-one wants to support.

Yeah, I'd like this too.

Matthew




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Bug#487585: [pkg-wpa-devel] Bug#487585: Bug#487585: Doesn't associate with wext driver, consider readding madwifi.

2008-06-25 Thread Reinhard Tartler
tag 487585 help
stop

kelmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've put forward my opinion already, and I'll stand by it. If enough 
 convincing
 arguments are put forward by people that the madwifi driver interface 
 (private,
 non-standard WPA interface, requiring a copy of source code that must be
 synchonised with non-free madwifi source package periodically, without
 backwards compatibility guarentee) should be reactivated in the Debian
 wpasupplicant package, then another member of pkg-wpa group, or NMU by a
 Debian Developer will have to take care of it.


So let's make the following requirement: In order to get the madwifi
headers included back, we need new manpower in the pkg-wpa team. That
person should commit to keep the header up-to-date in svn and help with
general maintenance of the package.

If such a person shows up and does the work, fine. If not, this bug
stays openas call for help for someone to fix it. We, the current
wpasupplicant maintainers have no interest in maintaining the header
copy.

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Bug#487585: [pkg-wpa-devel] Bug#487585: Bug#487585: Bug#487585: Doesn't associate with wext driver, consider readding madwifi.

2008-06-25 Thread Glenn Saberton
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Reinhard Tartler wrote:
 tag 487585 help
 stop
 
 kelmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 I've put forward my opinion already, and I'll stand by it. If enough 
 convincing
 arguments are put forward by people that the madwifi driver interface 
 (private,
 non-standard WPA interface, requiring a copy of source code that must be
 synchonised with non-free madwifi source package periodically, without
 backwards compatibility guarentee) should be reactivated in the Debian
 wpasupplicant package, then another member of pkg-wpa group, or NMU by a
 Debian Developer will have to take care of it.
 
 
 So let's make the following requirement: In order to get the madwifi
 headers included back, we need new manpower in the pkg-wpa team. That
 person should commit to keep the header up-to-date in svn and help with
 general maintenance of the package.
 
 If such a person shows up and does the work, fine. If not, this bug
 stays openas call for help for someone to fix it. We, the current
 wpasupplicant maintainers have no interest in maintaining the header
 copy.
 
I think it would be beneficial to all if the people that are
experiencing problems with the current debian madwifi package with the
current wpasupplicant package, that they would actually supply some
debug info to the relevant upstream so it could be fixed there rather
than continue down a deprecated path. As a reasonably long time user of
both madwifi and wpasupplicant with several atheros chips and no
problems using wext, I think it would be more useful to find the cause
of the problem than revert to using code that no-one wants to support.

/my two cents

Cheers

Glenn
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Bug#487585: [pkg-wpa-devel] Bug#487585: Doesn't associate with wext driver, consider readding madwifi.

2008-06-24 Thread kelmo
Hi Santiago,

On Monday 23 June 2008 06:39:26 Santiago Garcia Mantinan wrote:
 Package: wpasupplicant
 Version: 0.6.3-2
 Severity: wishlist
 
 Hi!
 
 The short story seems to be that an atheros card running madwifi sometimes
 fails to authenticate when using wpasupplicant -D wext, while it always
 works if run with -D madwifi.

My short story is located here:
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-wpa-devel/2008-May/001692.html

 
 The long story is this:
 
 I have two computers, one runs an old atheros card with an old setup that
 uses -D madwifi, and has been working perfectly doing WPA2 psk
 authentications against my madwifi based AP, that was till I upgraded to
 wpasupplicant 0.6.3-2, when I had to switch it from -D madwifi to -D wext,
 when it started to fail from time to time. When it fails it fails all the
 time and then it is blacklisted for a time on the madwifi AP, so it won't
 authenticate under whatever driver, OS or whatever.
 
 It was seing this computer fail when using -D wext that I realised that the
 problems I was seing on the other computer (a new computer which has just
 received support from madwifi) which I was thinking were caused by a still
 not good support on madifi, could be caused by the -D wext that I was using
 on this computer.
 
 So, after changing this new computer from -D wext to -D madwifi (using
 0.6.3-1) it started working perfectly, like the old computer used to do when
 it was running -D madwifi.
 
 So... I believe that the -D wext is not working well with the madifi
 drivers, at least on a setup like mine (WPA2 psk which is not weird at all).
 
 Of course this should be fixed on the madwifi driver, but I was wondering
 how long will it take for the madwifi drivers to address this, and if it is
 the right time at a short time for the release to drop all this
 wpasupplicant drivers, maybe there aren't any problems, but where may be
 problems like this that are found after the release, so... is this a risk we
 want to take with an important package like wpasupplicant?

I've put forward my opinion already, and I'll stand by it. If enough convincing
arguments are put forward by people that the madwifi driver interface (private,
non-standard WPA interface, requiring a copy of source code that must be
synchonised with non-free madwifi source package periodically, without
backwards compatibility guarentee) should be reactivated in the Debian
wpasupplicant package, then another member of pkg-wpa group, or NMU by a
Debian Developer will have to take care of it.

 
 I can do whatever tests you want on both the computers, but it is quite
 difficult to extract info from just a couple of tests as it only fails
 sometimes, and also because of the blacklisting.
 
 I'm Ccing the madwifi maintainers to see if they know of similar
 experiences.

I am the incumbent madwifi package maintainer. With that hat on, I can only be
glad to be rid of the burden of ensuring a private WPA interface is in sync and
functional with wpasupplicant and madwifi packages.

Activating and relying on private WPA interface is not going to help fix the
madwifi driver to respect Linux IEEE 802.11 standards in the future. What
happens when the private interface starts to be buggy in future versions of
Madwifi driver, who fixes the bugs and answers the questions then? Nobody.

Another person will be taking over active Madwifi package maintenance
(hopefully) soon.

Thanks, Kel.



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Bug#487585: Doesn't associate with wext driver, consider readding madwifi.

2008-06-23 Thread Maciek Kaliszewski
I have the same problem . So I fully agree with  Santiago Garcia 
Mantinan that madwifi driver should be enabled in wpa_supplicant.


Regards
Maciek Kaliszewski



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Bug#487585: Doesn't associate with wext driver, consider readding madwifi.

2008-06-22 Thread Santiago Garcia Mantinan
Package: wpasupplicant
Version: 0.6.3-2
Severity: wishlist

Hi!

The short story seems to be that an atheros card running madwifi sometimes
fails to authenticate when using wpasupplicant -D wext, while it always
works if run with -D madwifi.

The long story is this:

I have two computers, one runs an old atheros card with an old setup that
uses -D madwifi, and has been working perfectly doing WPA2 psk
authentications against my madwifi based AP, that was till I upgraded to
wpasupplicant 0.6.3-2, when I had to switch it from -D madwifi to -D wext,
when it started to fail from time to time. When it fails it fails all the
time and then it is blacklisted for a time on the madwifi AP, so it won't
authenticate under whatever driver, OS or whatever.

It was seing this computer fail when using -D wext that I realised that the
problems I was seing on the other computer (a new computer which has just
received support from madwifi) which I was thinking were caused by a still
not good support on madifi, could be caused by the -D wext that I was using
on this computer.

So, after changing this new computer from -D wext to -D madwifi (using
0.6.3-1) it started working perfectly, like the old computer used to do when
it was running -D madwifi.

So... I believe that the -D wext is not working well with the madifi
drivers, at least on a setup like mine (WPA2 psk which is not weird at all).

Of course this should be fixed on the madwifi driver, but I was wondering
how long will it take for the madwifi drivers to address this, and if it is
the right time at a short time for the release to drop all this
wpasupplicant drivers, maybe there aren't any problems, but where may be
problems like this that are found after the release, so... is this a risk we
want to take with an important package like wpasupplicant?

I can do whatever tests you want on both the computers, but it is quite
difficult to extract info from just a couple of tests as it only fails
sometimes, and also because of the blacklisting.

I'm Ccing the madwifi maintainers to see if they know of similar
experiences.

Regards...
-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.25
Locale: LANG=gl_ES.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=gl_ES.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages wpasupplicant depends on:
ii  adduser  3.108   add and remove users and groups
ii  libc62.7-10  GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libdbus-1-3  1.2.1-2 simple interprocess messaging syst
ii  libpcsclite1 1.4.101-2   Middleware to access a smart card 
ii  libreadline5 5.2-3   GNU readline and history libraries
ii  libssl0.9.8  0.9.8g-10.1 SSL shared libraries
ii  lsb-base 3.2-12  Linux Standard Base 3.2 init scrip

wpasupplicant recommends no packages.

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