Bug#669369: texlive-extra-utils: pdfjoin (pdfjam) canot join pages
Excerpts from Frank Küster's message of Sat Apr 28 21:29:37 +0200 2012: reassign 669369 texlive-latex-recommended retitle 669369 pdfpages: rotateoversize mess with undersized pages notforwarded 669369 stop Dear David, (please keep the bug-number address in Cc, so that the mails get archived at the proper place) David Firth d.fi...@warwick.ac.uk wrote: Dear Frank Thanks for your message. I haven't been able to check this, but I think that the behaviour reported below is not a bug. The complainer is simply saying that the software does not do what he/she wants. The answer is that the complainer should not use the software if they don't find it useful. Oh, that will solve the problem completely, for sure. I think that the behaviour reported here is as documented. The complainer says that an option is undocumented, but that's not true. It's in the pdfpages manual, to which explicit reference is made in the documentation. Where is it documented? The --help text mentions pdfpages manual but does not mention explicitly where it is located. The pdfpages.pdf file included with the package says this: rotateoversize This option allows to rotate oversized pages. E.g. pages in landscape orientation are oversized relatively to their portrait counter- part, because they do not match within the contour of a portrait page without rotating them. By default oversized pages are scale and are not rotated. Either âtrueâ or âfalseâ (or no value, which is equivalent to âtrueâ). (Default: rotateoversize=false) I don't see how this implies that slightly smaller pages of the same orientation as other pages are rotated when the option is enabled. Fortunately, the output of pdfjam at least dumps the options, otherwise I would not have the slightest idea this option is used. pdfjam sets this option to non-default value and does not document that or the option at all. I am sorry if I seem grumpy about this. No problem - I think that you are right from your point of view. However, some problems still persist - but that is an issue of pdfpages.sty. Therefore I'm reassigning the bug. 2) the pages are not oversized, they are undersized 3) rotating the pages is in no way useful since they are actually the same format (landscape). It would be only useful if rotating the page would yield larger page size after fitting it to the output paper size. This can probably be reproduced with pdfpages in a LaTeX document. Yes, I expect that since pdfjam is supposedly creating a TeX document which is then compiled into the bogus joined pdf. Thanks Michal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#669369: texlive-extra-utils: pdfjoin (pdfjam) canot join pages
On 2012-04-30 at 14:16, Michal Suchanek wrote: Excerpts from Frank Küster's message of Sat Apr 28 21:29:37 +0200 2012: reassign 669369 texlive-latex-recommended retitle 669369 pdfpages: rotateoversize mess with undersized pages notforwarded 669369 stop Dear David, (please keep the bug-number address in Cc, so that the mails get archived at the proper place) David Firth d.fi...@warwick.ac.uk wrote: Dear Frank Thanks for your message. I haven't been able to check this, but I think that the behaviour reported below is not a bug. The complainer is simply saying that the software does not do what he/she wants. The answer is that the complainer should not use the software if they don't find it useful. Oh, that will solve the problem completely, for sure. Great! (But still some quibbles appear below, I notice. I can't deal with those here.) In the README file (in the package, or online at http://go.warwick.ac.uk/pdfjam it says All of the other scripts provided in the PDFjam package are optional extras. They are simple wrappers for calls to pdfjam, designed to perform some common tasks such as joining or n-upping PDF files or to illustrate other features; they are not very elaborate, nor are they extensively tested. They are probably best thought of as simple templates that can be used for constructing more elaborate wrapper scripts as required. That's the key part of the documentation to understand, I think. I don't think the pdfjam script itself changes rotateoversize from its default behaviour, does it? It's pdfjoin that does that. All the best -- David I think that the behaviour reported here is as documented. The complainer says that an option is undocumented, but that's not true. It's in the pdfpages manual, to which explicit reference is made in the documentation. Where is it documented? The --help text mentions pdfpages manual but does not mention explicitly where it is located. The pdfpages.pdf file included with the package says this: rotateoversize This option allows to rotate oversized pages. E.g. pages in landscape orientation are oversized relatively to their portrait counter- part, because they do not match within the contour of a portrait page without rotating them. By default oversized pages are scale and are not rotated. Either ‘true’ or ‘false’ (or no value, which is equivalent to ‘true’). (Default: rotateoversize=false) I don't see how this implies that slightly smaller pages of the same orientation as other pages are rotated when the option is enabled. Fortunately, the output of pdfjam at least dumps the options, otherwise I would not have the slightest idea this option is used. pdfjam sets this option to non-default value and does not document that or the option at all. I am sorry if I seem grumpy about this. No problem - I think that you are right from your point of view. However, some problems still persist - but that is an issue of pdfpages.sty. Therefore I'm reassigning the bug. 2) the pages are not oversized, they are undersized 3) rotating the pages is in no way useful since they are actually the same format (landscape). It would be only useful if rotating the page would yield larger page size after fitting it to the output paper size. This can probably be reproduced with pdfpages in a LaTeX document. Yes, I expect that since pdfjam is supposedly creating a TeX document which is then compiled into the bogus joined pdf. Thanks Michal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#669369: texlive-extra-utils: pdfjoin (pdfjam) canot join pages
reassign 669369 texlive-latex-recommended retitle 669369 pdfpages: rotateoversize mess with undersized pages notforwarded 669369 stop Dear David, (please keep the bug-number address in Cc, so that the mails get archived at the proper place) David Firth d.fi...@warwick.ac.uk wrote: Dear Frank Thanks for your message. I haven't been able to check this, but I think that the behaviour reported below is not a bug. The complainer is simply saying that the software does not do what he/she wants. The answer is that the complainer should not use the software if they don't find it useful. I think that the behaviour reported here is as documented. The complainer says that an option is undocumented, but that's not true. It's in the pdfpages manual, to which explicit reference is made in the documentation. I am sorry if I seem grumpy about this. No problem - I think that you are right from your point of view. However, some problems still persist - but that is an issue of pdfpages.sty. Therefore I'm reassigning the bug. 2) the pages are not oversized, they are undersized 3) rotating the pages is in no way useful since they are actually the same format (landscape). It would be only useful if rotating the page would yield larger page size after fitting it to the output paper size. This can probably be reproduced with pdfpages in a LaTeX document. Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Sprecher B90/Grüne OV Miltenberg und Umgebung VCD Miltenberg, ADFC Aschaffenburg-Miltenberg Debian Developer (TeXLive) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#669369: texlive-extra-utils: pdfjoin (pdfjam) canot join pages
forwarded 669369 d.fi...@warwick.ac.uk stop Dear David, we (i.e. Debian TeXLive packages) have received a bug report about pdfjoin. Can you please comment on that? TIA, Frank Michal Suchanek michal.sucha...@ruk.cuni.cz wrote: Package: texlive-extra-utils Version: 2011.20120322-1 Severity: normal Hello, I tried to use pdfjoin which is part of TeX to join PDF document pages. It turns out that when the first page of the document is slightly larger than the rest of the pages this prevents pdfjam from producing usable output. The first page has correct orientation but the following pages are rotated. It seems that the undocumented parameter --rotate-oversized (set to true) might be the culprit. However 1) the parameter is not documented 2) the pages are not oversized, they are undersized 3) rotating the pages is in no way useful since they are actually the same format (landscape). It would be only useful if rotating the page would yield larger page size after fitting it to the output paper size. Attaching sample (empty) pages. $ pdfjoin --frame true page1.pdf page2.pdf pdfjam: This is pdfjam version 2.08. pdfjam: Reading any site-wide or user-specific defaults... (none found) pdfjam: Effective call for this run of pdfjam: /usr/bin/pdfjam --fitpaper 'true' --rotateoversize 'true' --suffix joined --frame 'true' -- page1.pdf - page2.pdf - pdfjam: Calling pdflatex... pdfjam: Finished. Output was to '/scratch/tmp/page2-joined.pdf'. ## List of ls-R files -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1587 Apr 18 20:05 /var/lib/texmf/ls-R lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Apr 14 01:43 /usr/share/texmf/ls-R - /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXMFMAIN lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Apr 10 10:09 /usr/share/texlive/texmf/ls-R - /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXLIVEMAIN -rw-rw-r-- 1 root staff 79 Dec 9 2010 /usr/local/share/texmf/ls-R lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Apr 10 10:09 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/ls-R - /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXLIVEDIST lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Apr 10 10:09 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/ls-R - /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXLIVEDIST lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Apr 10 10:09 /usr/share/texlive/texmf/ls-R - /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXLIVEMAIN ## Config files -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 838 Apr 18 20:05 /etc/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4746 Apr 18 20:05 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/fmtutil.cnf lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 32 Apr 10 10:09 /usr/share/texmf/web2c/updmap.cfg - /var/lib/texmf/updmap.cfg-DEBIAN -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3245 Apr 18 20:05 /var/lib/texmf/tex/generic/config/language.dat ## Files in /etc/texmf/web2c/ total 8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 283 Nov 10 2008 mktex.cnf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 838 Apr 18 20:05 texmf.cnf ## md5sums of texmf.d ca40c66f144b4bafc3e59a2dd32ecb9c /etc/texmf/texmf.d/00debian.cnf 1df66bc319cec731e202eaf39f5d85e1 /etc/texmf/texmf.d/96JadeTeX.cnf -- System Information: Debian Release: wheezy/sid APT prefers stable APT policy: (900, 'stable'), (500, 'testing'), (410, 'unstable'), (200, 'experimental'), (111, 'oldstable') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-1-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) (ignored: LC_ALL set to en_US.UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Versions of packages texlive-extra-utils depends on: ii dpkg 1.16.2 ii install-info 4.13a.dfsg.1-6 ii python2.7.2-10 ii tex-common3.8 ii texlive-base 2011.20120410-1 ii texlive-binaries 2011.20120410-1 ii texlive-common2011.20120410-1 Versions of packages texlive-extra-utils recommends: ii ghostscript 9.05~dfsg-4 ii ruby 4.8 ii ruby1.8 [ruby-interpreter]1.8.7.352-2 ii ruby1.9.1 [ruby-interpreter] 1.9.3.0-2 Versions of packages texlive-extra-utils suggests: ii chktex none ii dvidvi none ii dvipng none ii fragmaster none ii lacheck 1.26-11.1 ii latexdiff none ii latexmk none ii purifyeps 1.0a-1 ii xindy 2.4-1 Versions of packages tex-common depends on: ii debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.36.1 ii dpkg 1.16.2 ii ucf3.0025+nmu1 Versions of packages tex-common suggests: ii debhelper 9.20120322 Versions of packages texlive-extra-utils is related to: ii tex-common3.8 ii texlive-binaries 2011.20120410-1 -- debconf information: tex-common/check_texmf_wrong: tex-common/check_texmf_missing: -- Frank Küster Sprecher B90/Grüne OV Miltenberg und Umgebung VCD Miltenberg, ADFC Aschaffenburg-Miltenberg Debian Developer (TeXLive) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#669369: texlive-extra-utils: pdfjoin (pdfjam) canot join pages
Package: texlive-extra-utils Version: 2011.20120322-1 Severity: normal Hello, I tried to use pdfjoin which is part of TeX to join PDF document pages. It turns out that when the first page of the document is slightly larger than the rest of the pages this prevents pdfjam from producing usable output. The first page has correct orientation but the following pages are rotated. It seems that the undocumented parameter --rotate-oversized (set to true) might be the culprit. However 1) the parameter is not documented 2) the pages are not oversized, they are undersized 3) rotating the pages is in no way useful since they are actually the same format (landscape). It would be only useful if rotating the page would yield larger page size after fitting it to the output paper size. Attaching sample (empty) pages. $ pdfjoin --frame true page1.pdf page2.pdf pdfjam: This is pdfjam version 2.08. pdfjam: Reading any site-wide or user-specific defaults... (none found) pdfjam: Effective call for this run of pdfjam: /usr/bin/pdfjam --fitpaper 'true' --rotateoversize 'true' --suffix joined --frame 'true' -- page1.pdf - page2.pdf - pdfjam: Calling pdflatex... pdfjam: Finished. Output was to '/scratch/tmp/page2-joined.pdf'. ## List of ls-R files -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1587 Apr 18 20:05 /var/lib/texmf/ls-R lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Apr 14 01:43 /usr/share/texmf/ls-R - /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXMFMAIN lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Apr 10 10:09 /usr/share/texlive/texmf/ls-R - /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXLIVEMAIN -rw-rw-r-- 1 root staff 79 Dec 9 2010 /usr/local/share/texmf/ls-R lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Apr 10 10:09 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/ls-R - /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXLIVEDIST lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Apr 10 10:09 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/ls-R - /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXLIVEDIST lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Apr 10 10:09 /usr/share/texlive/texmf/ls-R - /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXLIVEMAIN ## Config files -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 838 Apr 18 20:05 /etc/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4746 Apr 18 20:05 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/fmtutil.cnf lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 32 Apr 10 10:09 /usr/share/texmf/web2c/updmap.cfg - /var/lib/texmf/updmap.cfg-DEBIAN -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3245 Apr 18 20:05 /var/lib/texmf/tex/generic/config/language.dat ## Files in /etc/texmf/web2c/ total 8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 283 Nov 10 2008 mktex.cnf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 838 Apr 18 20:05 texmf.cnf ## md5sums of texmf.d ca40c66f144b4bafc3e59a2dd32ecb9c /etc/texmf/texmf.d/00debian.cnf 1df66bc319cec731e202eaf39f5d85e1 /etc/texmf/texmf.d/96JadeTeX.cnf -- System Information: Debian Release: wheezy/sid APT prefers stable APT policy: (900, 'stable'), (500, 'testing'), (410, 'unstable'), (200, 'experimental'), (111, 'oldstable') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-1-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) (ignored: LC_ALL set to en_US.UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Versions of packages texlive-extra-utils depends on: ii dpkg 1.16.2 ii install-info 4.13a.dfsg.1-6 ii python2.7.2-10 ii tex-common3.8 ii texlive-base 2011.20120410-1 ii texlive-binaries 2011.20120410-1 ii texlive-common2011.20120410-1 Versions of packages texlive-extra-utils recommends: ii ghostscript 9.05~dfsg-4 ii ruby 4.8 ii ruby1.8 [ruby-interpreter]1.8.7.352-2 ii ruby1.9.1 [ruby-interpreter] 1.9.3.0-2 Versions of packages texlive-extra-utils suggests: ii chktex none ii dvidvi none ii dvipng none ii fragmaster none ii lacheck 1.26-11.1 ii latexdiff none ii latexmk none ii purifyeps 1.0a-1 ii xindy 2.4-1 Versions of packages tex-common depends on: ii debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.36.1 ii dpkg 1.16.2 ii ucf3.0025+nmu1 Versions of packages tex-common suggests: ii debhelper 9.20120322 Versions of packages texlive-extra-utils is related to: ii tex-common3.8 ii texlive-binaries 2011.20120410-1 -- debconf information: tex-common/check_texmf_wrong: tex-common/check_texmf_missing: page1.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document page2.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
