Bug#766404: iceweasel-l10n-fi: misleading translation Muokkaa valitsimia in customizableWidgets
Hello Kalle Olavi, I adding Philipp Kewisch from the Mozilla Lightning Team to the recipients, he is making the Lightning packages for Icedove but could also helping here propably. @Philipp Are you able to help here or could give us some more infos there to put this issue? Thanks! Regards Carsten On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:53:22PM +0300, Kalle Olavi Niemitalo wrote: Package: iceweasel-l10n-fi Version: 1:31.2.0esr-2~deb7u1 File: /usr/lib/iceweasel/browser/extensions/langpack...@iceweasel.mozilla.org.xpi Severity: minor Tags: upstream, l10n Click the menu button at the right end of the tool bar, and then click the Muokkaa button at the bottom of the menu to start customizing it. By default, the topmost item in the menu is the Leikkaa Kopioi Liitä (Cut Copy Paste) widget. Drag the widget to the Lisää työkaluja ja ominaisuuksia area at left side of the menu. A miniature version of the widget appears there, and it has a caption below it: Muokkaa valitsimia. This caption is misleading because you cannot use the widget to edit any controls; rather, the widget consists of controls with which you can edit text. Within langpack...@iceweasel.mozilla.org.xpi, the string is defined in chrome/fi/locale/browser/customizableui/customizableWidgets.properties. It seems this has not yet been fixed in the upstream repository: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n/mozilla-aurora/fi/file/ed5975cb1b75/browser/chrome/browser/customizableui/customizableWidgets.properties http://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/fi/file/45c33ed9944f/browser/chrome/browser/customizableui/customizableWidgets.properties but I'm not that familiar with their version-control practices. Alternative translations: * Muokkausvalitsimet would be more correct, and pretty close to the current translation. I'm not sure controls is customarily translated to valitsimet, though. * Muokkauksen valitsimet would be consistent with Lähennyksen valitsimet in customizableWidgets.properties, but it seems a bit clunky and might even be misunderstood as something with which you can select edits that you have previously made. * Muokkaussäätimet would be consistent with Näytä säätimet in chrome/fi/locale/browser/browser.dtd. However, säätimet seems very appropriate for trackbars or dials but not so good for instant commands like Leikkaa (Copy). * Muokkauspainikkeet would reflect that the widget consists of three buttons. This is my favorite for now. * Muokkauskomennot seems old-fashioned. I don't think user interfaces nowadays talk about giving commands to the computer. * Leikepöytä would reflect that all three buttons in the widget relate to the clipboard, but I think that word isn't used much nowadays, so users might not recognize it. -- System Information: Debian Release: 7.7 APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=fi_FI.utf8, LC_CTYPE=fi_FI.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages iceweasel-l10n-fi depends on: ii iceweasel 31.2.0esr-2~deb7u1 Versions of packages iceweasel-l10n-fi recommends: ii xul-ext-mozvoikko 2.0.1-1 iceweasel-l10n-fi suggests no packages. -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#766404: iceweasel-l10n-fi: misleading translation Muokkaa valitsimia in customizableWidgets
Hi Carsten, I do make the official Lightning packages, but if Icedove is using something different then I don't create those packages. For any language specific issues, I'd suggest filing a bug in the respective language component on bugzilla.mozilla.org. Product: Mozilla Localizations Component: (the respective language) Philipp On 10/23/14 4:32 AM, Carsten Schoenert wrote: Hello Kalle Olavi, I adding Philipp Kewisch from the Mozilla Lightning Team to the recipients, he is making the Lightning packages for Icedove but could also helping here propably. @Philipp Are you able to help here or could give us some more infos there to put this issue? Thanks! Regards Carsten On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:53:22PM +0300, Kalle Olavi Niemitalo wrote: Package: iceweasel-l10n-fi Version: 1:31.2.0esr-2~deb7u1 File: /usr/lib/iceweasel/browser/extensions/langpack...@iceweasel.mozilla.org.xpi Severity: minor Tags: upstream, l10n Click the menu button at the right end of the tool bar, and then click the Muokkaa button at the bottom of the menu to start customizing it. By default, the topmost item in the menu is the Leikkaa Kopioi Liitä (Cut Copy Paste) widget. Drag the widget to the Lisää työkaluja ja ominaisuuksia area at left side of the menu. A miniature version of the widget appears there, and it has a caption below it: Muokkaa valitsimia. This caption is misleading because you cannot use the widget to edit any controls; rather, the widget consists of controls with which you can edit text. Within langpack...@iceweasel.mozilla.org.xpi, the string is defined in chrome/fi/locale/browser/customizableui/customizableWidgets.properties. It seems this has not yet been fixed in the upstream repository: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n/mozilla-aurora/fi/file/ed5975cb1b75/browser/chrome/browser/customizableui/customizableWidgets.properties http://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/fi/file/45c33ed9944f/browser/chrome/browser/customizableui/customizableWidgets.properties but I'm not that familiar with their version-control practices. Alternative translations: * Muokkausvalitsimet would be more correct, and pretty close to the current translation. I'm not sure controls is customarily translated to valitsimet, though. * Muokkauksen valitsimet would be consistent with Lähennyksen valitsimet in customizableWidgets.properties, but it seems a bit clunky and might even be misunderstood as something with which you can select edits that you have previously made. * Muokkaussäätimet would be consistent with Näytä säätimet in chrome/fi/locale/browser/browser.dtd. However, säätimet seems very appropriate for trackbars or dials but not so good for instant commands like Leikkaa (Copy). * Muokkauspainikkeet would reflect that the widget consists of three buttons. This is my favorite for now. * Muokkauskomennot seems old-fashioned. I don't think user interfaces nowadays talk about giving commands to the computer. * Leikepöytä would reflect that all three buttons in the widget relate to the clipboard, but I think that word isn't used much nowadays, so users might not recognize it. -- System Information: Debian Release: 7.7 APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=fi_FI.utf8, LC_CTYPE=fi_FI.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages iceweasel-l10n-fi depends on: ii iceweasel 31.2.0esr-2~deb7u1 Versions of packages iceweasel-l10n-fi recommends: ii xul-ext-mozvoikko 2.0.1-1 iceweasel-l10n-fi suggests no packages. -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#766404: iceweasel-l10n-fi: misleading translation Muokkaa valitsimia in customizableWidgets
On 10/23/14 1:23 PM, Kalle Olavi Niemitalo wrote: Philipp Kewisch mozi...@kewis.ch writes: I do make the official Lightning packages, but if Icedove is using something different then I don't create those packages. For any language specific issues, I'd suggest filing a bug in the respective language component on bugzilla.mozilla.org. Before I refile the iceweasel-l10n-fi bugs to bugzilla.mozilla.org, I'd like to check that they haven't already been fixed in the latest unreleased translations. Where can I find those? I looked at: * http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n/mozilla-aurora/fi/ last modified on 2014-10-13 (10 days ago) * http://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/fi/ last modified on 2014-07-28 (87 days ago) of which the first one is fresher, but it has releases in its name, suggesting that the changes are first made somewhere else and then released to this repository. l10n-central is the translation of the nightly builds, where strings are still in flux. aurora builds are the first where strings are frozen and beta builds are the last chance to translate. I believe some localizers just translate beta, others do aurora. So check also http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n/mozilla-beta/fi/ Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#766404: iceweasel-l10n-fi: misleading translation Muokkaa valitsimia in customizableWidgets
Philipp Kewisch mozi...@kewis.ch writes: I do make the official Lightning packages, but if Icedove is using something different then I don't create those packages. For any language specific issues, I'd suggest filing a bug in the respective language component on bugzilla.mozilla.org. Before I refile the iceweasel-l10n-fi bugs to bugzilla.mozilla.org, I'd like to check that they haven't already been fixed in the latest unreleased translations. Where can I find those? I looked at: * http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n/mozilla-aurora/fi/ last modified on 2014-10-13 (10 days ago) * http://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/fi/ last modified on 2014-07-28 (87 days ago) of which the first one is fresher, but it has releases in its name, suggesting that the changes are first made somewhere else and then released to this repository. pgpBi5E5ZnhsO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#766404: iceweasel-l10n-fi: misleading translation Muokkaa valitsimia in customizableWidgets
Package: iceweasel-l10n-fi Version: 1:31.2.0esr-2~deb7u1 File: /usr/lib/iceweasel/browser/extensions/langpack...@iceweasel.mozilla.org.xpi Severity: minor Tags: upstream, l10n Click the menu button at the right end of the tool bar, and then click the Muokkaa button at the bottom of the menu to start customizing it. By default, the topmost item in the menu is the Leikkaa Kopioi Liitä (Cut Copy Paste) widget. Drag the widget to the Lisää työkaluja ja ominaisuuksia area at left side of the menu. A miniature version of the widget appears there, and it has a caption below it: Muokkaa valitsimia. This caption is misleading because you cannot use the widget to edit any controls; rather, the widget consists of controls with which you can edit text. Within langpack...@iceweasel.mozilla.org.xpi, the string is defined in chrome/fi/locale/browser/customizableui/customizableWidgets.properties. It seems this has not yet been fixed in the upstream repository: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n/mozilla-aurora/fi/file/ed5975cb1b75/browser/chrome/browser/customizableui/customizableWidgets.properties http://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/fi/file/45c33ed9944f/browser/chrome/browser/customizableui/customizableWidgets.properties but I'm not that familiar with their version-control practices. Alternative translations: * Muokkausvalitsimet would be more correct, and pretty close to the current translation. I'm not sure controls is customarily translated to valitsimet, though. * Muokkauksen valitsimet would be consistent with Lähennyksen valitsimet in customizableWidgets.properties, but it seems a bit clunky and might even be misunderstood as something with which you can select edits that you have previously made. * Muokkaussäätimet would be consistent with Näytä säätimet in chrome/fi/locale/browser/browser.dtd. However, säätimet seems very appropriate for trackbars or dials but not so good for instant commands like Leikkaa (Copy). * Muokkauspainikkeet would reflect that the widget consists of three buttons. This is my favorite for now. * Muokkauskomennot seems old-fashioned. I don't think user interfaces nowadays talk about giving commands to the computer. * Leikepöytä would reflect that all three buttons in the widget relate to the clipboard, but I think that word isn't used much nowadays, so users might not recognize it. -- System Information: Debian Release: 7.7 APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=fi_FI.utf8, LC_CTYPE=fi_FI.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages iceweasel-l10n-fi depends on: ii iceweasel 31.2.0esr-2~deb7u1 Versions of packages iceweasel-l10n-fi recommends: ii xul-ext-mozvoikko 2.0.1-1 iceweasel-l10n-fi suggests no packages. -- no debconf information pgpvnspDMgfWR.pgp Description: PGP signature
