Bug#823465: dpkg: Won't run at all on i586 Pentium MMX due to illegal instruction

2016-05-19 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 03:19:24PM +0200, Pierre Ynard wrote: > Is that kind of downgrade supposed to be supported? No, it is not supposed to be supported. > I encountered configuration migration problems for apt and postfix, > shall I file bugs for these? Probably not. This is a seldom used f

Bug#823465: dpkg: Won't run at all on i586 Pentium MMX due to illegal instruction

2016-05-19 Thread Pierre Ynard
I've successfully downgraded most of my system from unstable to jessie, so this seems to be workable. Among the things I run, there's only MySQL that can't be downgraded just like that from unstable's 5.6 to jessie's 5.5, and for which there is no backport of 5.6; and also libstdc++6 that I can't

Bug#823465: dpkg: Won't run at all on i586 Pentium MMX due to illegal instruction

2016-05-08 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 8 May 2016 00:51:57 +0200 Pierre Ynard wrote: > > My recommendation would be going to jessie[1], it has whole four > > years of support left. Anything you need from unstable can be > > backported. > > Hopefully the downgrade path would be workable. Backports can help with that - those

Bug#823465: dpkg: Won't run at all on i586 Pentium MMX due to illegal instruction

2016-05-07 Thread Pierre Ynard
> My recommendation would be going to jessie[1], it has whole four years > of support left. Anything you need from unstable can be backported. Hopefully the downgrade path would be workable. > After those four years you can reconsider, in the unlikely case your > machine will be still alive. Tha

Bug#823465: dpkg: Won't run at all on i586 Pentium MMX due to illegal instruction

2016-05-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, May 07, 2016 at 02:42:37AM +0200, Pierre Ynard wrote: > That's not the idea I'd like to have about Debian. If I wanted > a distro where unstable is broken and unusable, I would have installed > long ago. I'm afraid there's not enough people who care about 586 enough to maintain it. And t

Bug#823465: dpkg: Won't run at all on i586 Pentium MMX due to illegal instruction

2016-05-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Pierre Ynard > Please tell me, what do I do with it?? Personally, I'd get some more recent hardware. Or run stable. In CPU performance terms, a Pentium MMX (at 200MHz) is about half to a third of the speed of the first-generation raspberry pi (underclocked to 700MHz). There's a limit to ho

Bug#823465: dpkg: Won't run at all on i586 Pentium MMX due to illegal instruction

2016-05-06 Thread Pierre Ynard
Yes, I run unstable in production. My stuff isn't business-critical. But I can say the same thing about this making it impossible to run unstable. That's not the idea I'd like to have about Debian. If I wanted a distro where unstable is broken and unusable, I would have installed long ago. I don'

Bug#823465: dpkg: Won't run at all on i586 Pentium MMX due to illegal instruction

2016-05-05 Thread Rene Engelhard
retitle 823465 New binaries won't run at all on i586 Pentium MMX due to illegal instruction clone 823465 -1 reassign -1 release-notes reopen -1 retitle -1 Document dropping i586 support severity -1 important thanks On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 10:28:56PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > So are there r

Bug#823465: dpkg: Won't run at all on i586 Pentium MMX due to illegal instruction

2016-05-05 Thread Rene Engelhard
On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 06:50:43PM +0200, Pierre Ynard wrote: > This is my production system and I run a lot of services on it. This on *unstable*? > So are there release notes somewhere? What's the recommended course of I don't believe there are, as the release and release notes are still a few

Bug#823465: dpkg: Won't run at all on i586 Pentium MMX due to illegal instruction

2016-05-05 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 5 May 2016 22:51:47 +0500 Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 06:50:43PM +0200, Pierre Ynard wrote: > > This is my production system and I run a lot of services on it. > You are running sid on your production system, correct? > > > So are there release notes somewhere?

Bug#823465: dpkg: Won't run at all on i586 Pentium MMX due to illegal instruction

2016-05-05 Thread Pierre Ynard
retitle 823465 Dropping i586 support unexpectedly breaks i586 systems on upgrade stop That's nice. That piece of information didn't get to me. I didn't read that gcc changelog either because I haven't upgraded it on my system. This is my production system and I run a lot of services on it. This i

Bug#823465: dpkg: Won't run at all on i586 Pentium MMX due to illegal instruction

2016-05-05 Thread Rene Engelhard
reassign 823465 general thanks On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 04:15:31AM +0200, Pierre Ynard wrote: > So it seems the archive is filling with new builds that won't run on my > hardware. Great! Sorry for the noise, please assist with triaging. See gcc-defaults changelog: gcc-defaults (1.151) unstable; u