Bug#497270: debian-cd: includes embedded copies of bootloaders
tags 497270 +pending thanks On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 02:51:20PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: Package: debian-cd Severity: serious Hi, debian-cd includes (at least) syslinux binaries without source. debian-cd should take the syslinux binaries out of the archive when building images. Fixed in svn, ready for upload soon. Current daily/weekly builds will already do the right thing. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky, Tongue-tied twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bug#497270: debian-cd: includes embedded copies of bootloaders
Steve McIntyre wrote: Fixed in svn, ready for upload soon. Current daily/weekly builds will already do the right thing. nice, thanks. -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#497270: debian-cd: includes embedded copies of bootloaders
Daniel Baumann wrote: (i'll never embedded any isolinux binaries into syslinux, so I'm depending on that the one in the archive is working). s/syslinux/live-helper/ another fyi: the call[0] for testers on syslinux 3.71+dfsg-3 was successfull, except Intel based iMacs (which is not a regression, they don't work with syslinux 3.63 either) every previously failing machine types appear to work again. Therefore, I'm confident about releasing lenny for both debian and debian-live with syslinux 3.71. Hopefully, you'll also switch to 3.71 in debian-cd soon. Regards, Daniel [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2008/09/msg00046.html -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#497270: debian-cd: includes embedded copies of bootloaders
fyi: qemu issue has been fixed by upstream in 3.72pre1, fix included in unstable 3.71-3. 3.71-4 in NEW is splittet into syslinux (arch) and syslinux-common (indep). -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#497270: debian-cd: includes embedded copies of bootloaders
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008, Daniel Baumann wrote: Aurelien Jarno wrote: Bug#496869 is a release blocker. We don't want to produce d-i images that do not work on some machines. agreed, but that's not the point. to fulfil the license /for that specific version/ of syslinux embedded in debian-cd, you need to include the sources of /that specific version/ of syslinux. Would it be enough to put the sources of that specific version of syslinux somewhere on cdimage.debian.org and document that ? Once that this is done, we can reduce the severity of this bug to wishlist. I somewhat agree that we should extract what we need from the syslinux package itself but it's not something that is very practical to implement and IIRC we had quite some history with syslinux being broken in a few cases that justified to keep control over what syslinux version we were using. Sledge, what do you think ? Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog Le best-seller français mis à jour pour Debian Etch : http://www.ouaza.com/livre/admin-debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#497270: debian-cd: includes embedded copies of bootloaders
Raphael Hertzog wrote: Would it be enough to put the sources of that specific version of syslinux somewhere on cdimage.debian.org and document that ? for this bug, no. first, debian source packages must contain all sources needed to produce debian binary packages, you cannot out-source parts of the source to a different location. second, debian binary packages and debian source packages must be in sync, which wouldn't be the case if you out-source parts of it. however, for the sarge release (#497471), you could put a source tarball contain the sources for that syslinux version into the same directory as the source-iso images are kept; that way mirrors should pick it up automatically. Once that this is done, we can reduce the severity of this bug to wishlist. wishlist ist imho too low, at least normal or rather important would be more approriate, given that debian-cd would, even if it includes the tarball with the syslinux sources in the debian source package of debian-cd itself, still create incomplete source images. which is quite an important mis-feature of a cdimage creation software. you need to fix that for lenny to, in case you decide to keep using emebedded syslinux binaries. completely unrelated to that: if syslinux upstream cannot fix the regressions in time, the last resort solution is to go back to 3.63 for unstable (i'll never embedded any isolinux binaries into syslinux, so I'm depending on that the one in the archive is working). also completely unrelated, but while we are at it, the next upload of syslinux will be splittet into syslinux (arch) and syslinux-common (indep), so that the pure bootloader files can be access/installed on any arch. I somewhat agree that we should extract what we need from the syslinux package itself but it's not something that is very practical to implement and IIRC we had quite some history with syslinux being broken in a few cases that justified to keep control over what syslinux version we were using. i personally don't agree with this. a major reason for why we have the current regressions in syslinux comes from exactely that fact that cdimage software like debian-cd do not use the version from the archive, otherwise we would have had reports months ago and would have had time to fix it. now it's almost impossible to bisect between 3.63 and 3.71, calling for testers and confirming this on all the affected different hardware out there (which i don't have access to myself). however, your call. -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#497270: debian-cd: includes embedded copies of bootloaders
Package: debian-cd Severity: serious Hi, debian-cd includes (at least) syslinux binaries without source. debian-cd should take the syslinux binaries out of the archive when building images. Regards, Daniel -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#497270: debian-cd: includes embedded copies of bootloaders
block 497270 by 496869 thanks On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 02:51:20PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: Package: debian-cd Severity: serious Hi, debian-cd includes (at least) syslinux binaries without source. debian-cd should take the syslinux binaries out of the archive when building images. At least the embedded copy works on all machines. The version in the archive has problems with QEMU and Intel Macs (see bug#496869). -- .''`. Aurelien Jarno | GPG: 1024D/F1BCDB73 : :' : Debian developer | Electrical Engineer `. `' [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] `-people.debian.org/~aurel32 | www.aurel32.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bug#497270: debian-cd: includes embedded copies of bootloaders
unblock 497270 by 496869 thanks Aurelien Jarno wrote: At least the embedded copy works on all machines. The version in the archive has problems with QEMU and Intel Macs (see bug#496869). ...which is an entirely different problem and has nothing to do with the legal promplem to comply with the syslinux license (GPL-2+). -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bug#497270: debian-cd: includes embedded copies of bootloaders
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 05:01:30PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: unblock 497270 by 496869 thanks Aurelien Jarno wrote: At least the embedded copy works on all machines. The version in the archive has problems with QEMU and Intel Macs (see bug#496869). ...which is an entirely different problem and has nothing to do with the legal promplem to comply with the syslinux license (GPL-2+). Bug#496869 is a release blocker. We don't want to produce d-i images that do not work on some machines. -- .''`. Aurelien Jarno | GPG: 1024D/F1BCDB73 : :' : Debian developer | Electrical Engineer `. `' [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] `-people.debian.org/~aurel32 | www.aurel32.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#497270: debian-cd: includes embedded copies of bootloaders
Aurelien Jarno wrote: Bug#496869 is a release blocker. We don't want to produce d-i images that do not work on some machines. agreed, but that's not the point. to fulfil the license /for that specific version/ of syslinux embedded in debian-cd, you need to include the sources of /that specific version/ of syslinux. all sources of debian packages are available in git://git.debian.net/git/syslinux.git and debian binary/source packages on http://daniel.debian.net/packages/syslinux/. -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
