Bug#743128: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#743128: network-manager: NM does not work (without systemd)

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 04.04.2014 19:19, schrieb David Derby: Hi, Shouldn't network-manager be able work without systemd? systemd might be the default init system in Jessie but other init systems are still supported in Debian. I do not wish to switch to systemd but by upgrading network manager I am now being

Bug#743128: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#743128: network-manager: NM does not work (without systemd)

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 04.04.2014 19:27, schrieb Michael Biebl: Am 04.04.2014 19:19, schrieb David Derby: Hi, Shouldn't network-manager be able work without systemd? systemd might be the default init system in Jessie but other init systems are still supported in Debian. I do not wish to switch to systemd but

Bug#743128: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#743128: network-manager: NM does not work (without systemd)

2014-04-03 Thread Evgeni Golov
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:40:41AM +0200, Ralf Jung wrote: However, interesting enough, just *installing* systemd (without using it) already improves the situation a lot: nmcli c works as expected, and the KDE plasma-nm applet shows the available and stored connections. However, for some

Bug#743128: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#743128: network-manager: NM does not work (without systemd)

2014-03-31 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 30.03.2014 20:24, schrieb Ralf Jung: In any case, as NM just Recommends: systemd, it should still be functional without using systemd. You are right. I will switch that to Depends: systemd-sysv. -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are

Bug#743128: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#743128: network-manager: NM does not work (without systemd)

2014-03-31 Thread Ralf Jung
Hi, In any case, as NM just Recommends: systemd, it should still be functional without using systemd. You are right. I will switch that to Depends: systemd-sysv. I can by now confirm that my issues are systemd-related: When booting my machine with systemd, everything behaves as expected.

Bug#743128: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#743128: network-manager: NM does not work (without systemd)

2014-03-31 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 31.03.2014 11:40, schrieb Ralf Jung: Hi, In any case, as NM just Recommends: systemd, it should still be functional without using systemd. You are right. I will switch that to Depends: systemd-sysv. I can by now confirm that my issues are systemd-related: When booting my machine with

Bug#743128: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#743128: network-manager: NM does not work (without systemd)

2014-03-31 Thread Ralf Jung
Hi, We do have some patches which make systemd-logind work standalone, i.e. withouth PID 1 = systemd. systemd-logind is a replacement for ConsoleKit and used for session and user tracking. However, with systemd 208 and later those patches no longer work. So you'll need systemd to be PID 1.