[ Trimming Cc list completely. After this email there is little more I
have to say about this ].
On Mon, 27 Oct 2014, Michael Tautschnig wrote:
Admittedly, all that *I* want is a working debootstrap, so I'm also ok just
having the changes in base-files for now (or maybe also in debootstrap).
Hi Santiago, All,
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 13:39:06 +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
[...]
I already tried to fix this problem yesterday in base-files by making
minor changes. It didn't work.
And it didn't work because contrary to what some people in this thread
has suggested, this issue has
Hi all,
I'm being heavily bitten by this one as well and I'm mildly shocked to see it
crop up this late in the release cycle. I'm not going to hide that I believe
this ought to be reassigned to base-files. I'll try to elaborate below.
Santiago Vila wrote:
[...]
In this particular case, I
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 08:35:14 +, Michael Tautschnig wrote:
Hi all,
I'm being heavily bitten by this one as well and I'm mildly shocked to see it
crop up this late in the release cycle. I'm not going to hide that I believe
this ought to be reassigned to base-files. I'll try to
I'm going to reply to Julien first, then to Michael.
On Mon, 27 Oct 2014, Julien Cristau wrote:
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 08:35:14 +, Michael Tautschnig wrote:
I agree this should be fixed in base-files.
Bugs should be fixed where they are. If base-files, or any other
package, essential or
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 11:08:55 +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
This has worked for ages, and it should continue to work, because
base-passwd is essential.
That argument would work better if base-files wasn't also essential.
Cheers,
Julien
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2014, Michael Tautschnig wrote:
In principle, every essential package may depend on any other, and the
set of real dependencies may change over time, so it's natural that
debootstrap needs minor adjustments from time to time.
So would you expect some sort of versioned
I'm hoping this is not going to be too philosophical, so I'll enlist the facts
first (please let me know if I got any of them wrong):
debootstrap'ing a system fails, because
- chown root:root ... won't work when invoked from base-files' postinst
- version 7.7 of base-files is the first to
Apologies if I may be repeating information as we were concurrently working on
those messages.
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 11:34:06 +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
[...]
I just expect debootstrap maintainers to cooperate with the release
managers to ensure that the version in stable is able to
On Mon, 27 Oct 2014, Michael Tautschnig wrote:
I'm hoping this is not going to be too philosophical, so I'll enlist the facts
first (please let me know if I got any of them wrong):
debootstrap'ing a system fails, because
- chown root:root ... won't work when invoked from base-files'
Hi,
On Montag, 27. Oktober 2014, Santiago Vila wrote:
I've heard that the version in wheezy-backports does not have this problem.
yes.
Maybe it could be just a matter of making an upload for the next point
release. I don't know.
the^wa fix is in the wheezy branch already:
Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org (2014-10-27):
Hi,
On Montag, 27. Oktober 2014, Santiago Vila wrote:
I've heard that the version in wheezy-backports does not have this problem.
yes.
Maybe it could be just a matter of making an upload for the next point
release. I don't know.
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 12:07:24 +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
On Mon, 27 Oct 2014, Michael Tautschnig wrote:
I'm hoping this is not going to be too philosophical, so I'll enlist the
facts
first (please let me know if I got any of them wrong):
debootstrap'ing a system fails, because
On Mon, 27 Oct 2014, Michael Tautschnig wrote:
+ [ ! -f /usr/info/dir ]
+ [ ! -f /usr/share/info/dir ]
+ install_from_default /usr/share/base-files/info.dir /usr/share/info/dir
+ [ ! -f /usr/share/info/dir ]
+ cp -p /usr/share/base-files/info.dir /usr/share/info/dir
+ chmod 644
For the record, base-files postinst had three lines like this
chown root:root whatever
I've dropped all of them in base-files_7.10.
Thanks.
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2014, Michael Tautschnig wrote:
Then maybe take the first sentence in 3.8 Essential packages
instead: Essential is defined as the minimal set of functionality
that must be available and usable on the system at all times, even
when packages are in the Unpacked state. If not
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 16:36:42 +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
[...]
For example, your interpretation would force base-passwd to lose its
essential flag, because it can't provide its core functionality only
when in unpacked state. Then, according to policy, base-files and
*every* other package
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:
reassign 766459 debootstrap
Bug #766459 [base-files] base-file: fails to install, base-files pre-depends on
awk
Bug reassigned from package 'base-files' to 'debootstrap'.
No longer marked as found in versions 3.8.
Ignoring request to alter fixed
reassign 766459 debootstrap
retitle 766459 debootstrap: should not try to configure base-files before
/etc/passwd has the usual users in a Debian system
thanks
[ Retitled because the predependency on awk in the subject is quite old
and most probably has nothing to do with this ].
On Thu, 23
for the avoidance of doubt: I have used debootstrap 1.0.48+deb7u1...
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On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:08:50PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
for the avoidance of doubt: I have used debootstrap 1.0.48+deb7u1...
Ok, so the problem is that in wheezy, deboostrap is no longer able to
create a chroot of jessie or sid.
IMHO, this is definitely worthy to be fixed in a point
Santiago Vila sanv...@unex.es (2014-10-23):
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:08:50PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
for the avoidance of doubt: I have used debootstrap 1.0.48+deb7u1...
Ok, so the problem is that in wheezy, deboostrap is no longer able to
create a chroot of jessie or sid.
jessie is
Santiago Vila wrote:
Instead, the work of debootstrap is precisely to guess the right order
in which packages should be configured so that everything work.
In other words, essential packages should not get in the business of
breaking dependency cycles, because that's debootstrap job.
This
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 01:11:40PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Santiago Vila wrote:
Instead, the work of debootstrap is precisely to guess the right order
in which packages should be configured so that everything work.
In other words, essential packages should not get in the business of
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