Bug#1061185: apt-verify: unsupportable

2025-12-28 Thread Simon Josefsson
Right, this is because 'apt' added a 'Conflicts: apt-verify' so
effectively 'apt-verify' and 'apt' cannot be co-installed unless you
override apt's default behaviour for Conflicts: handling.

/Simon

Petter Reinholdtsen  writes:

> Just for the record, this is what happen when trying to install
> apt-verfiy now:
>
> Solving dependencies... Error!  
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
>
> Unsatisfied dependencies:
>  apt : Conflicts: apt-verify but 2.0-1 is to be installed
> Error: Unable to satisfy dependencies. Reached two conflicting decisions:
>1. apt-verify:amd64=2.0-1 is selected for install
>2. apt-verify:amd64=2.0-1 is not selected for install because:
>   1. apt:amd64 is selected for install
>   2. apt:amd64 Conflicts apt-verify


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Bug#1061185: apt-verify: unsupportable

2025-12-28 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
Just for the record, this is what happen when trying to install
apt-verfiy now:

Solving dependencies... Error!  
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Unsatisfied dependencies:
 apt : Conflicts: apt-verify but 2.0-1 is to be installed
Error: Unable to satisfy dependencies. Reached two conflicting decisions:
   1. apt-verify:amd64=2.0-1 is selected for install
   2. apt-verify:amd64=2.0-1 is not selected for install because:
  1. apt:amd64 is selected for install
  2. apt:amd64 Conflicts apt-verify

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Happy hacking
Petter Reinholdtsen



Bug#1061185: apt-verify: unsupportable

2025-02-17 Thread Jeremy Bícha
On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 5:24 PM Simon Josefsson  wrote:
> I don't understand this -- why is it a RC bug if the apt maintainers
> declare a Conflicts with a package?  Where in the debian policies do you
> find support for that view?

apt is Priority: required. It is impossible to install apt-verify on a
standard Debian install. An uninstallable package cannot possibly be
part of Debian.

Perhaps the piuparts section at
https://release.debian.org/testing/rc_policy.txt applies if you need a
reference.

Sorry, I am unable to help with the dispute with the apt maintainers.

Thank you,
Jeremy Bícha



Bug#1061185: apt-verify: unsupportable

2025-02-17 Thread Simon Josefsson
Jeremy Bícha  writes:

> Control: severity -1 serious
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 5:10 PM Simon Josefsson  wrote:
>>
>> severity 1061185 important
>> thanks
>>
>> I'm downgrading this due to lack of explanation what is the 'serious'
>> severity level problem.
>>
>> /Simon
>>
>> Simon Josefsson  writes:
>>
>> > Hi!  You re-opened this ITP bug and changed the title to 'apt-verify:
>> > unsupportable' and made it a RC bug.  It is not clear to me what makes
>> > you believe this is a serious bug in this package, since you gave no
>> > justification.  Can you clarify what your actionable concerns are?
>
> I apologize for not replying sooner.
>
> apt-verify has a defacto RC bug or equivalent because apt has
> Conflicts: apt-verify.
>
> Notice how it is unable to migrate to Testing because of the piuparts
> regression: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/apt-verify
>
> I am bumping the severity back to serious just so that someone who
> visits that tracker page (or the similar excuses pages) has a handy
> link to more explanation why this package is unable to migrate to
> Testing. There is history in previous comments to this bug. I am not
> personally involved in apt maintenance or deciding whether there
> should or shouldn't be a Conflicts here.

I don't understand this -- why is it a RC bug if the apt maintainers
declare a Conflicts with a package?  Where in the debian policies do you
find support for that view?

It would be nice to resolve the Conflicts in apt too, as an orthogonal
but related issue, but I've been equally unable to understand what
actionable change is requested in 'apt-verify'.  Could we try to have a
discussion about this?

/Simon


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Bug#1061185: apt-verify: unsupportable

2025-02-17 Thread Simon Josefsson
severity 1061185 important
thanks

I'm downgrading this due to lack of explanation what is the 'serious'
severity level problem.

/Simon

Simon Josefsson  writes:

> Hi!  You re-opened this ITP bug and changed the title to 'apt-verify:
> unsupportable' and made it a RC bug.  It is not clear to me what makes
> you believe this is a serious bug in this package, since you gave no
> justification.  Can you clarify what your actionable concerns are?
>
> /Simon
>


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Bug#1061185: apt-verify: unsupportable

2025-01-22 Thread Simon Josefsson
Hi!  You re-opened this ITP bug and changed the title to 'apt-verify:
unsupportable' and made it a RC bug.  It is not clear to me what makes
you believe this is a serious bug in this package, since you gave no
justification.  Can you clarify what your actionable concerns are?

/Simon


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