Bug#532670: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#532670: Bug#532670: network manager causes system to fail to boot

2009-06-15 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:56:30AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 09:10:23PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:06:06PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
Steve McIntyre wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 08:52:14PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:

 Do you use any kind of network login / ldap / nis etc?
 
 You've beaten me to it; I was about to follow up to myself to mention
 that. We've seen this using NIS on some machines, and again on newer
 ones where we're trying out LDAP too.

My guess is, that it's a problem related to NSS, because network is not yet 
up
when gdm is started. Could you try a small hack and add a sleep 30 to the
network-manager init script, after the daemon has started, in order to give 
it
some time to establish a network connection before gdm/X is started.

Sure, I can give that a try tomorrow when I'm back in the office. I'm
wondering how that might work, though: this is well before anybody
even attempts to log in, i.e. before gdm displays the login box. I
don't know if I made that clear before...

OK, that didn't help at all I'm afraid. After the delay, the system
continued on and hung in just the same way at gdm startup.

Debugging further, running gdm under strace shows that the last useful
thing it does is send AUTH EXTERNAL 30 via dbus. I'm looking at dbus
now to see what's happening there.

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Bug#532670: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#532670: Bug#532670: network manager causes system to fail to boot

2009-06-11 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 09:10:23PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:06:06PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
Steve McIntyre wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 08:52:14PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:

 Do you use any kind of network login / ldap / nis etc?
 
 You've beaten me to it; I was about to follow up to myself to mention
 that. We've seen this using NIS on some machines, and again on newer
 ones where we're trying out LDAP too.

My guess is, that it's a problem related to NSS, because network is not yet up
when gdm is started. Could you try a small hack and add a sleep 30 to the
network-manager init script, after the daemon has started, in order to give it
some time to establish a network connection before gdm/X is started.

Sure, I can give that a try tomorrow when I'm back in the office. I'm
wondering how that might work, though: this is well before anybody
even attempts to log in, i.e. before gdm displays the login box. I
don't know if I made that clear before...

OK, that didn't help at all I'm afraid. After the delay, the system
continued on and hung in just the same way at gdm startup.

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Bug#532670: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#532670: Bug#532670: network manager causes system to fail to boot

2009-06-10 Thread Michael Biebl
Steve McIntyre wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 08:52:14PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
 Steve McIntyre wrote:
 Package: network-manager
 Version: 0.6.6-3
 Severity: critical
 Rationale: system lockup

 [ This might not be a network-manager bug directly, but simply
   uninstalling it fixes the problem. ]

 On a whole range of newly-installed Lenny systems at work, we have a
 major problem that seems to be caused by network-manager. The system
 boots up and at starts gdm as normal. However, when gdm starts it
 simply hangs at the X stipple screen rather than switching to the
 default solid blue background. The mouse pointer responds, but
 keyboard input fails to do anything (no response to numlock, can't
 switch to a console). The box does not respond to pings either; we
 have no option but to power-cycle.

 If we purge network-manager and simply enable dhcp directly from
 /etc/network/interfaces then all works just fine. There doesn't seem
 to be anything useful in the logs that I can see...
 Do you use any kind of network login / ldap / nis etc?
 
 You've beaten me to it; I was about to follow up to myself to mention
 that. We've seen this using NIS on some machines, and again on newer
 ones where we're trying out LDAP too.

My guess is, that it's a problem related to NSS, because network is not yet up
when gdm is started. Could you try a small hack and add a sleep 30 to the
network-manager init script, after the daemon has started, in order to give it
some time to establish a network connection before gdm/X is started.

Cheers,
Michael
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Bug#532670: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#532670: Bug#532670: network manager causes system to fail to boot

2009-06-10 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:06:06PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
Steve McIntyre wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 08:52:14PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:

 Do you use any kind of network login / ldap / nis etc?
 
 You've beaten me to it; I was about to follow up to myself to mention
 that. We've seen this using NIS on some machines, and again on newer
 ones where we're trying out LDAP too.

My guess is, that it's a problem related to NSS, because network is not yet up
when gdm is started. Could you try a small hack and add a sleep 30 to the
network-manager init script, after the daemon has started, in order to give it
some time to establish a network connection before gdm/X is started.

Sure, I can give that a try tomorrow when I'm back in the office. I'm
wondering how that might work, though: this is well before anybody
even attempts to log in, i.e. before gdm displays the login box. I
don't know if I made that clear before...

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