Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-15 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 09:34:39AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: So to use the image you need either a DVD or a USB stick, and if you're using a write-once DVD you're perhaps wasting the unused space; but the download time and install footprint are still kept low and in the range of what a CD

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-15 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 09:34:39AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: So to use the image you need either a DVD or a USB stick, and if you're using a write-once DVD you're perhaps wasting the unused space; but the download time and install footprint are still kept low and in the range of what

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-15 Thread Steve McIntyre
[ re-adding CC to debian-cd and debian-boot ] Adam Borowski wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 05:04:16PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: Hey folks, Remembering the fun that we had during the Squeeze release with trying to make single-CD installations work well, it's time to consider what we're

What installer images should we provide for s390 and s390x?

2012-05-15 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hi, We had a brief discussion back in April about s390/s390x CD images, but I'm still not clear on what people would like me to do here. At the moment, on all other arches we currently create: * small CDs (businesscard and netinst) * full CD and DVD sets For s390 we've never done the small

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-15 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Wookey woo...@wookware.org writes: And the USB-stick process is not as simple as it might be because you have to find the HD-media files and then _also_ find an iso image to put on. It's no wonder newbs are still downloading CD/DVD images. You also need to have root access to some machine to

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Wookey wrote: And the USB-stick process is not as simple as it might be because you have to find the HD-media files and then _also_ find an iso image to put on. It's no wonder newbs are still downloading CD/DVD images. I thought HD-media was a thing of the

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-15 Thread Wookey
+++ Steve McIntyre [2012-05-15 13:38 +0100]: [ re-adding CC to debian-cd and debian-boot ] 2. USB-targeted images I've also tweaked DVD#1 of each set to fit in 4GB instead of the normal 4.7GB, so that it fits on a 4GB USB stick to make it more useful. We could quite readily produce (say)

Re: Tracker for debian-wheezy-DI-a1-amd64-DVD-1.iso?

2012-05-15 Thread Steve McIntyre
j.clar...@student.unimelb.edu.au wrote: Hello! Last night I downloaded the Debian Installer 7.0 Alpha1 DVD via http, after being unable to download it via BitTorrent. Upon completing the download, I tried to seed the iso, but KTorrent was unable to contact a tracker. Is this a known issue? I'm

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-15 Thread gregor herrmann
On Tue, 15 May 2012 22:34:20 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: And the USB-stick process is not as simple as it might be because you have to find the HD-media files and then _also_ find an iso image to put on. It's no wonder newbs are still downloading CD/DVD images. I thought HD-media was a thing

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-15 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 06:13:24PM +0200, gregor herrmann wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2012 22:34:20 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: And the USB-stick process is not as simple as it might be because you have to find the HD-media files and then _also_ find an iso image to put on. It's no wonder newbs are

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-15 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Fedora/RH folks recently added more hacks to isohybrid to support booting on Macs: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/11285.html This is achieved by applying ISOLINUX program isohybrid from a recent ISOLINYX version to the already produced ISO images. syslinux-4.05 should probably do. It is a

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-15 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Steve McIntyre wrote: (http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en) but skipped straight past section 4.3.1. Looks like we could do with a big clear message DO THIS UNLESS YOU HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS to make it more obvious. :-) I am a bit scared by the catastrophic potential

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-15 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Steve McIntyre] (http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en) While it is refreshing to see cat debian.iso /dev/sdX instead of the usual dd nonsense (it seems there's an extremely widespread myth that you need to use dd any time you're reading or writing block devices), I

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Peter Samuelson, le Tue 15 May 2012 12:40:55 -0500, a écrit : (http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en) While it is refreshing to see cat debian.iso /dev/sdX instead of the usual dd nonsense (it seems there's an extremely widespread myth that you need to use dd any time

The curious case of openjdk-6-jre-headless_6b24-1.11.1-3_amd64.deb in d7.01alpha

2012-05-15 Thread shirish शिरीष
Hi all, I have been trying to use jigdo to download DVD 1 and keep getting stuck at one file in the download. In fact the download on this isn't smooth in anyway . Here's what I get when I try to download it via jigdo :- 100 files not found in previous pass, trying alternative download

Bug#673055: cdrom: debian testing Net install (may 13 2012) not booting...

2012-05-15 Thread Andre Verwijs
Package: cdrom Severity: normal Tags: upstream Dear Maintainer, the ISO image of May 13th 2012 of testing (wheezy) NET install did not boot up when i try to start with cd, infact my pc did a hard reset... but i found the wheezy Alpha1 release at:

Re: The curious case of openjdk-6-jre-headless_6b24-1.11.1-3_amd64.deb in d7.01alpha

2012-05-15 Thread shirish शिरीष
in-line :- On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:55 PM, shirish शिरीष shirisha...@gmail.com wrote: I have tried with both http:// omfpr,atopm meant to say had tried both http://http.debian.org as well as ftp://ftp.debian.org but somehow get stuck somewhere. This is the latest effort with another mirror,

Re: The curious case of openjdk-6-jre-headless_6b24-1.11.1-3_amd64.deb in d7.01alpha

2012-05-15 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Wed, 2012-05-16 at 00:30 +0530, shirish शिरीष wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:55 PM, shirish शिरीष shirisha...@gmail.com wrote: This is the latest effort with another mirror, as can be seen also stuck :- [...] - 100 files not

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-15 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Samuel Thibault] I think cp is even more straightforward. Does cp accept that way since a long time? I'm not sure, but I've been using things like cp boot.img /dev/fd0 for probably 10 or 15 years on various Linux and Unix systems. (The fact that I referred to a floppy drive may give some

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-15 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Steve McIntyre] The major win with dd onto a raw device is that you can specify the block size. For most USB sticks, using a block size of 4MB or so is going to be *much* faster than using the default for dd (512 bytes) or cp (10 KB IIRC). That seemed a little fishy to me, since none of the

Re: The curious case of openjdk-6-jre-headless_6b24-1.11.1-3_amd64.deb in d7.01alpha

2012-05-15 Thread shirish शिरीष
in-line :- On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk wrote: On Wed, 2012-05-16 at 00:30 +0530, shirish शिरीष wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:55 PM, shirish शिरीष shirisha...@gmail.com wrote: This is the latest effort with another mirror, as can be seen also