Re: Dual layer DVD

2004-09-13 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 02:19:16PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: [ Sent to both -release and -cd; please respect the reply-to: -cd ] Ditto. There's been quite a lot of discussion lately about releasing sarge on dual-layer DVD; it's clearly attractive for CD/DVD vendors to be able to sell one disc

Re: Dual layer DVD

2004-09-12 Thread Christian Fasshauer
Steve McIntyre wrote: On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 08:28:23PM +, Joel Baker wrote: On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 12:25:29AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: Jigdo means that we can do this without eating terabytes of disk space all over the world. To get the DL DVD images pressed will probably take

Re: Dual layer DVD

2004-09-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 12:45:31PM +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 11:13:14AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: Yes, it should be quite easy to grab all the bits you need from the 2 smaller ISOs to make the large one, with just the filesystem headers and directory structure

Re: Dual layer DVD

2004-09-09 Thread Steffen Grunewald
On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 11:13:14AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 08:28:23PM +, Joel Baker wrote: On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 12:25:29AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: Jigdo means that we can do this without eating terabytes of disk space all over the world. To get the

Re: Dual layer DVD

2004-09-08 Thread Steve Langasek
Richard, On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 03:58:55PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote: On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 02:19:16PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: 8604024832 sarge-i386-1.iso We're going to have to start trimming things if we want dual-layer DVDs to work for the sarge release. Suggestions? The

Re: Dual layer DVD

2004-09-08 Thread Mattias Wadenstein
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Steve McIntyre wrote: What I'd like us to do is create several image sizes for each arch: Sounds good to me. 1 business card image (ISO, maybe jigdo too) 1 netinst image (ISO, maybe jigdo too) Really, what good would jigdo do here? If you have such slow connection that

Re: Dual layer DVD

2004-09-07 Thread Richard Atterer
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 02:19:16PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: 8604024832 sarge-i386-1.iso We're going to have to start trimming things if we want dual-layer DVDs to work for the sarge release. Suggestions? The following shows the kB needed (for all+i386) and names of some packages

Re: Dual layer DVD

2004-09-07 Thread Joel Baker
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 04:11:49PM +0200, Joerg Friedrich wrote: Richard Atterer schrieb am Dienstag, 07. September 2004 um 15:58:55 +0200: Of course, another option is to go for dual-sided single-layer DVD (aka DVD-10), but that loses much of the convenience for the user. Comments? I

Re: Dual layer DVD

2004-09-07 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 02:19:16PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: [ Sent to both -release and -cd; please respect the reply-to: -cd ] There's been quite a lot of discussion lately about releasing sarge on dual-layer DVD; it's clearly attractive for CD/DVD vendors to be able to sell one disc

Re: Dual layer DVD

2004-09-07 Thread Nelson Altimari
Jay Berkenbilt wrote: Maybe this has already been mentioned, but I think it's worth pointing out that two single-sided single-layer DVDs are more convenient than one double-sided single-layer DVD for people who have more than one DVD drive and can therefore have both discs mounted at the same

Re: Dual layer DVD

2004-09-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 04:11:49PM +0200, Joerg Friedrich wrote: Richard Atterer schrieb am Dienstag, 07. September 2004 um 15:58:55 +0200: I think dual-sided DVDs are *very* unpopular, aren't they? AFAIK dual-sided single-layer is identical to two single-sided single-layer disks. Suse sells

Re: Dual layer DVD

2004-09-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 07:04:44PM +, Joel Baker wrote: The simple answer would be to make sure that we have a reasonable selection of two disks (for individual burns or dual-sided single-layered press runs), and a way to make it easy for folks wanting to burn or press single-sided dual-layer

Re: Dual layer DVD

2004-09-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 07:36:50PM -0300, Nelson Altimari wrote: In any case, there should be a single-sided, double-layered image (8.5Gb), for the user which wants a single, 'flipless' disc. Although I also have two drives, I would stick to the double-layered image myself. The only problem is

Re: Dual layer DVD

2004-09-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 07:31:23PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 02:19:16PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: We're going to have to start trimming things if we want dual-layer DVDs to work for the sarge release. Suggestions? Already using 2xDVD testing images of