On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 10:39 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 08:52:25AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
I just checked debian-testing-amd64-i386-powerpc-netinst.iso vs
firmware-testing-amd64-i386-powerpc-netinst.iso from
On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 11:12 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:49:18AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 10:43 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 07:05:47AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 00:32 +0100, Steve McIntyre
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:49:18AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 10:43 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 07:05:47AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 00:32 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 09:26:38AM +0100, Ian Campbell
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 07:05:47AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 00:32 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 09:26:38AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
After struggling for a bit due to CONF.sh overwriting my settings (I've
figured out about DEBIAN_CD_CONF_SOURCED
On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 10:43 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 07:05:47AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 00:32 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 09:26:38AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
After struggling for a bit due to CONF.sh overwriting
On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 00:32 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 09:26:38AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
After struggling for a bit due to CONF.sh overwriting my settings (I've
figured out about DEBIAN_CD_CONF_SOURCED now!) I managed to do a sid m-a
netinst build without perl and
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 09:26:38AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 13:51 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 12:50 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 03:35:23PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 15:23 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 13:51 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 12:50 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 03:35:23PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 15:23 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 10:00:38AM +0100, Ian Campbell
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:45:12PM -0700, Chris Reich wrote:
This powerpc user would rather not see powerpc dropped from the
netinstall disk but accepts that it may be the time to do it in the
interests of the much larger number of x86 based hardware in the
wild.
Yup. There will still be a
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 03:35:23PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 15:23 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 10:00:38AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
I don't think libuuid-perl really needs perl and I have filed #588427 to
that effect.
Cool.
It's tagged as
On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 12:50 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 03:35:23PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 15:23 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 10:00:38AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
I don't think libuuid-perl really needs perl and I
What I've done for now is drop the -486 kernel flavour from the m-a
netinst. From a test build I've just done, everything fits on a single
CD again, even with firmware included. If people want to install from
a netinst onto a pre-686 machine then they'll need to use the separate
i386 netinst
On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 04:11:06PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
On Friday 09 July 2010, Steve McIntyre wrote:
What I've done for now is drop the -486 kernel flavour from the m-a
netinst. From a test build I've just done, everything fits on a single
CD again, even with firmware included. If people
On Friday 09 July 2010, Steve McIntyre wrote:
True. Any better suggestions?
No. Not without doing substantial work on this, which I've already
indicated I'm not going to do this release.
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On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 14:28 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
What I've done for now is drop the -486 kernel flavour from the m-a
netinst. From a test build I've just done, everything fits on a single
CD again, even with firmware included. If people want to install from
a netinst onto a pre-686
On Friday 09 July 2010, Ian Campbell wrote:
In light of Frans' concern perhaps consider dropping 686 instead of 486?
I think that will result in 686-bigmem being installed on systems which
would have previously got 686 (I can confirm if necessary). This isn't
necessarily a bad thing -- it
(dropped powerpc for this subthread)
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 01:09 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
Do you have any idea where perl (not perl-base) comes from? python
(not python-minimal) doesn't seem to be in the base system but is on
the CD as well. Similarly nothing seems to pull in binutils
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 12:45 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 12:49:52AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 07:16:59AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
Hardlinks are used in preference to symlinks since these are expected to
work better with isolinux and the
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 15:23 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 10:00:38AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
I don't think libuuid-perl really needs perl and I have filed #588427 to
that effect.
Cool.
It's tagged as pending already in the perl team's VCS, very fast
turnaround.
I
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 12:49:52AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 07:16:59AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
Hardlinks are used in preference to symlinks since these are expected to
work better with isolinux and the Xen tools.
Signed-off-by: Ian Campbell i...@hellion.org.uk
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 09:17:19AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 01:16 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 08:49:36AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 22:46 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
the multi-arch DVD.
Another random thought, would we
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 10:00:38AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
(dropped powerpc for this subthread)
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 01:09 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
Do you have any idea where perl (not perl-base) comes from? python
(not python-minimal) doesn't seem to be in the base system but is on
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 07:16:59AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 22:43 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
I don't think sym-links are going to work - the filesystem code in
isolinux is very simple (e.g. it only supports basic 8.3 filenames!)
and I doubt it'll work. Hard links
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 08:49:36AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 22:46 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
the multi-arch DVD.
Another random thought, would we be better off enabling the xen variant
on the m-a DVD rather than CD?
Adding this stuff onto the DVD sounds like a plan,
[ Added cc: to debian-powerpc for help... ]
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 08:44:15AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 22:46 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 03:45:31PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com writes:
The netinsts are
Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com writes:
I don't think sym-links are going to work - the filesystem code in
isolinux is very simple (e.g. it only supports basic 8.3 filenames!)
and I doubt it'll work. Hard links *might*, however.
Hi,
Largely immaterial, just for the sake of correctness:
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 11:55:52AM +0200, Ferenc Wagner wrote:
Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com writes:
I don't think sym-links are going to work - the filesystem code in
isolinux is very simple (e.g. it only supports basic 8.3 filenames!)
and I doubt it'll work. Hard links *might*, however.
On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 22:43 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
Is this list part of the output somewhere when I do a local build
either
with easy-build.sh or by replicating the invocation from
debian-cd-setup
SVN?
It's an excerpt from make_disc_tree.log, produced when
make_disc_trees.pl is
On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 22:46 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 03:45:31PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com writes:
The netinsts are meant to have the base system, yes. I can't see
anything obvious myself that we can drop. Maybe time to
On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 22:46 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
the multi-arch DVD.
Another random thought, would we be better off enabling the xen variant
on the m-a DVD rather than CD?
Ian.
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Ian Campbell i...@hellion.org.uk writes:
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 21:49 +0200, Ferenc Wagner wrote:
Ian Campbell i...@hellion.org.uk writes:
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 21:12 +0200, Ferenc Wagner wrote:
Ian Campbell i...@hellion.org.uk writes:
Another option might be to combine gtk/initrd.gz
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 14:30 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
The following packages are falling off onto a second disk now:
i386:main:linux-image-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem:27213342
i386:main:linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem:3036
i386:main:linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem:516338
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 07:39:17AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 21:49 +0200, Ferenc Wagner wrote:
It's actually an overlay, so it may be possible to work around the Xen
limitation by making the Xen initrd the base one and overwriting its
arch dependent parts as needed.
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 07:38:18PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 14:30 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
The following packages are falling off onto a second disk now:
i386:main:linux-image-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem:27213342
i386:main:linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem:3036
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 03:45:31PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com writes:
The netinsts are meant to have the base system, yes. I can't see
anything obvious myself that we can drop. Maybe time to give up on
powerpc on that image, like we've done on the m-a
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 21:49 +0200, Ferenc Wagner wrote:
Ian Campbell i...@hellion.org.uk writes:
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 21:12 +0200, Ferenc Wagner wrote:
Ian Campbell i...@hellion.org.uk writes:
Another option might be to combine gtk/initrd.gz and xen/initrd.gz so
that the overhead
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 21:12 +0200, Ferenc Wagner wrote:
Ian Campbell i...@hellion.org.uk writes:
Another option might be to combine gtk/initrd.gz and xen/initrd.gz so
that the overhead is only the kernel udebs and not duplicating all the
other stuff.
I probably mentioned this already,
Ian Campbell i...@hellion.org.uk writes:
Another option might be to combine gtk/initrd.gz and xen/initrd.gz so
that the overhead is only the kernel udebs and not duplicating all the
other stuff.
I probably mentioned this already, but you aren't constrained to a
single initrd.gz: you can use
Ian Campbell i...@hellion.org.uk writes:
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 21:12 +0200, Ferenc Wagner wrote:
Ian Campbell i...@hellion.org.uk writes:
Another option might be to combine gtk/initrd.gz and xen/initrd.gz so
that the overhead is only the kernel udebs and not duplicating all the
other
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 20:06 +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
On Wednesday 16 June 2010, Steve McIntyre wrote:
I'm afraid I don't have any good ideas. Is this particular image
supposed to contain a complete base system or just enough to fetch the
remainder of the base system from the net?
The
On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 15:45 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Just a crcy idea: Could the plain i386 kernel be droped instead? That
would loose support for i486 and i586 cpus on the m-a CD. But is that
needed there?
I guess it is a possibility, I suppose new installs on i486 and i586
class
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 15:17 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
The Lenny multi arch netinst amd64+i3486+powerpc was 472M which left
around 178M spare so I wonder where that space has gone.
[...]
I'll take a look at the non-package content of the DVD next since
there seems to ~50M accounted there.
Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com writes:
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 03:06:14PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 14:30 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
For the last few builds, the i386/amd64/powerpc sid netinst image has
become too big to fit on one CD any more. The following packages
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 03:06:14PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 14:30 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
For the last few builds, the i386/amd64/powerpc sid netinst image has
become too big to fit on one CD any more. The following packages are
falling off onto a second disk now:
On Wednesday 16 June 2010, Steve McIntyre wrote:
I'm afraid I don't have any good ideas. Is this particular image
supposed to contain a complete base system or just enough to fetch the
remainder of the base system from the net?
The netinsts are meant to have the base system, yes. I can't see
For the last few builds, the i386/amd64/powerpc sid netinst image has
become too big to fit on one CD any more. The following packages are
falling off onto a second disk now:
i386:main:linux-image-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem:27213342
i386:main:linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem:3036
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 14:30 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
For the last few builds, the i386/amd64/powerpc sid netinst image has
become too big to fit on one CD any more. The following packages are
falling off onto a second disk now:
i386:main:linux-image-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem:27213342
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