Re: Woody non-US CDs

2002-04-14 Thread Anthony Towns

On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 08:24:23PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote:
  That would presumably be on the assumptions that all crypto packages
  will be in main before release (which doesn't seem very likely at
  present) and that those were the only things that were in non-US
  (which is not the case either)
 No, I think what has so far been the binary-1-NONUS CD is going to
 become the binary-1 CD - no special US version. non-US ==
 cryptographic code according to policy 2.1.5:

The exact polocy wrt non-US stuff is confused. It's safest to treat
it as copyright is freely licensed, but restricted for miscellaneous
other reasons and be quite conservative about what you do with it.

  We'll still need non-US for those things that are patented in the
  USA, and presumably also for a growing band of programs that are
  deemed to infringe on the DMCA and other bizarre American laws.
 Hm, I'm confused - I thought that either these programs cannot be
 packaged at all, or they end up in (non-US/)non-free.

Not consistently, no. The c-i-m bug http://bugs.debian.org/81852 eg,
expects patented stuff to go in non-US/main.

 AJ, could you please clarify: Do we need two versions of the first CD?

We need a main-only CD. I'm not really sure there's a huge need for
a non-US/main CD. (Or, at least, whether there will be once mozilla and
postgresql and a hanful of others propogate to woody/main, which will be
over the next couple of days)

Cheers,
aj

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Re: Announcing jigdo-easy 2.1 - please test

2002-04-14 Thread Mattias Wadenstein

On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, J.A. Bezemer wrote:


 Hi all!

 I'm pleased to announce the availability of  jigdo-easy 2.1  for both
 Linux/*UX and Windows. Download it at:

   http://cdimage.debian.org/~costar/jigdo/

(actually, any OS with C compiler) - well, not all C compilers think
that -Wall is a correct switch, but that is easily fixed. Is there a good
way to set CFLAGS only if it isn't set?

 Since the official woody images will be available primarily (at least the
 first days/weeks) in jigdo format, we should make sure that the download tools
 are working properly. I'm quite confident that jigdo-easy/jigdo-port will do a
 fine job, but I'd still appreciate it if people (yes, that means you) could
 give it a try on as many systems as possible (which includes all available
 variants of M$Win). Please report your experiences to the debian-cd list, or
 to me privately.

Well, it kind of works with jigdo-mirror, it makes alot of progress (on
some .jigdo files from the pre-release set mentioned earlier). Then I get:
---
Checking file
`/export/ftp/mirror/debian-non-US/pool/non-US/main/z/zope-popyda/zope-popyda_2.0.7-1_all.deb'...
  Pasting...
  Done.
2002-04-14 16:39:24: 0 parts still missing from image
2002-04-14 16:39:24: Image creation failed
---
for various values of Checking file.

Which doesn't really tell me why it failed, but I guess something went
wrong. This might very well be the fault of jigdo-mirror though, I'll
probably have some time to look at it later this week unless someone else
figures out why.

Just jigdo-easy on a 2.2rev6 image worked fine though.

/Mattias Wadenstein


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Re: Announcing jigdo-easy 2.1 - please test

2002-04-14 Thread Mattias Wadenstein

On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Mattias Wadenstein wrote:

 Well, it kind of works with jigdo-mirror, it makes alot of progress (on
 some .jigdo files from the pre-release set mentioned earlier). Then I get:
 ---
 Checking file
 
`/export/ftp/mirror/debian-non-US/pool/non-US/main/z/zope-popyda/zope-popyda_2.0.7-1_all.deb'...
   Pasting...
   Done.
 2002-04-14 16:39:24: 0 parts still missing from image
 2002-04-14 16:39:24: Image creation failed
 ---
 for various values of Checking file.

 Which doesn't really tell me why it failed, but I guess something went
 wrong. This might very well be the fault of jigdo-mirror though, I'll
 probably have some time to look at it later this week unless someone else
 figures out why.

Ok, it is probably a missing file. I have verified this behaviour with
jigdo-easy, which also hides the fact of what file was missing by clearing
the screen too soon. This is what I get (thanks to logging in screen):

---8---
CONSTRUCTING IMAGE
--

Created `debian-30pre1-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso.list'
Merging parts from `file:' URIs, if any...
Checking file
`/export/ftp/mirror/debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US/Contents-i386.gz'...
  Not needed.
ESC[HESC[J Jigsaw Download Easy  Copyright (C) 2001-2002 R. Atterer, J.A. Bezemer  
GPL2

File : debian-30pre1-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso
Label: 'Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 pre1 Woody - Pre-release i386
Binary-1_NONUS CD'
Info : 'Generated on Sat, 13 Apr 2002 03:39:47 +0100'

PROBLEM
---

Oops - not all files could be downloaded...
---8---

And this is pretty much the same error I see when trying to do the same
thing with the jigdo-mirror script.

/Mattias Wadenstein


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Re: MD5SUM File ISO signature checking ??

2002-04-14 Thread Philip Hands

On Sat, 2002-04-13 at 23:02, M.B_9_root wrote:
 Hi Debian-cd,
 
  
 
 I want to check file 'MD5SUM' signature for 2.2 rev 6 i386
 
  
 
 #gpg --verify MD5SUM
 
 gpg: Signature made Fri Apr 5 20:38:10 2002 CEST using DSA key ID
 DD9B9910
 
 gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found

Try running this first:

  gpg --keyserver keyring.debian.org --recv-keys DD9B9910

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Re: Documenting the MULTIBOOT option

2002-04-14 Thread Raphael Hertzog

Le Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 03:11:15PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen écrivait:
 Here is a patch to document the MULTIBOOT option.  Please include in
 the next version.

I won't apply this patch since the eltorito multiboot solution is
certainly going to be dropped... the menu it offers is not very
useful compared to isolinux multiboot.

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Re: Documenting the MULTIBOOT option

2002-04-14 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen


[Raphael Hertzog]
 I won't apply this patch since the eltorito multiboot solution is
 certainly going to be dropped... the menu it offers is not very
 useful compared to isolinux multiboot.

I believe it is better to have bad options documented as such, instead
of leaving it to the users to find, test and discover the features of
undocumented options.

(I know isolinux is supposed to be a better option, but until the
MULTIBOOT option is removed I believe it is good to include the
documentation.)


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Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-14 Thread Raphael Hertzog

Le Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 07:44:42PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo écrivait:
  1: multiboot
  2: vanilla
  3: compact
  4: idepci
  5: bf2.4
[...]
 
 Sounds excellent to me.  I'm excited to try it, I've never even seen
 the ISO boot in action.

Can you update the installation manual if it hasn't already been done ?

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Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-14 Thread Chris Tillman

On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 10:00:52PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
 Le Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 07:44:42PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo ?crivait:
   1: multiboot
   2: vanilla
   3: compact
   4: idepci
   5: bf2.4
 [...]
  
  Sounds excellent to me.  I'm excited to try it, I've never even seen
  the ISO boot in action.
 
 Can you update the installation manual if it hasn't already been done ?

I can - since I don't have an i386 or a burner, where can I find out what 
the user will see with the multiboot CD, and what choices will be available?
The other four flavors are all available on multiboot? Anything else?

Also it would be fine if we could give some guidance about how to make that 
choice - type of system, connected hardware, age? I guess the differences
are already covered for vanilla/compact/idepci, but how about bf2.4? Which
hardware is 'highly recommended' to go with 2.4; new within the last 
year or two, or ???

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