Bug#788532: grub-efi-ia32-bin should be shipped on install DVD
Actually, that was the easy part. Except for a custom built grub-efi-i386 and some manual fiddling to find the install disc, I didn't need to do anything. Right, OK. Not exactly a common trail, then. :-) Well, brand new hardware that just works is relatively rare. I just happen to value Debian as a starting point for most of my Linux-related endeavours. Reduces configuration/customisation by much, and still manages to come without unnecessary bloat like certain other distributions. Also, I prefer apt over other package managers. Yup, I know - I wrote http://blog.einval.com/2015/04/23#ready_for_Jessie and the code described there. I've been hacking on Bay Trail systems for a ehile... :-) *Reading that article now* Right. If you'd just tried the multi-arch Debian CD netinst or DVD you'd probably have found that the installation just worked for you without having to fight with your own grub-efi-ia32 build etc.! What how where multiarch? Ok, it looks I completely missed that. Oops. And if I'm reading your blog correctly, the i386 images come with UEFI support, so that would be an option too. Except that I don't really like the idea of missing out on the advantages of amd64. But if it works... I'm *not* planning on adding the 32-bit grub binary packages to our amd64 CD images just yet. I'll want to add installer build code to get them booting easily in 32-bit first. Until then, please stick with the multi-arch images. OK? If that's the best way to get what I want, I'll give it a try. This seems pretty unique to Debian though? Ubuntu doesn't ship their i386 installers with EFI boot support, and they don't seem to have a multiarch installer either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/557b5590.4060...@gmail.com
Bug#788532: grub-efi-ia32-bin should be shipped on install DVD
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 07:27:26PM +0200, Gregor Riepl wrote: Hi Steve This is actually the responsibility of the debian-cd package, reassigning. I did not know that, thank you. reportbug has a debian-installer flag, I assumed it was for this purpose. I'm the guy who's done the work for the mixed-EFI case here. How did you get the amd64 installer DVD to boot on your 32-bit UEFI system in the first place? That's an important (and harder) part of this. It's the reason why I explicitly only added support for mixed-EFI to our multi-arch i386/amd64 CDs and DVDs in the first place... Actually, that was the easy part. Except for a custom built grub-efi-i386 and some manual fiddling to find the install disc, I didn't need to do anything. Right, OK. Not exactly a common trail, then. :-) I've been experimenting with a bunch of Intel Bay Trail tablets lately, and they all come with a full-featured (as far as Atom goes) 64bit Atom CPU. However, since the manufacturers usually only fit 1 or 2 GB of RAM into their devices, they ship with a 32bit Windows 8, and consequently, only a 32bit UEFI BIOS. Yup, I know - I wrote http://blog.einval.com/2015/04/23#ready_for_Jessie and the code described there. I've been hacking on Bay Trail systems for a ehile... :-) All those UEFI BIOSes I've seen so far will boot any 32 or 64 bit Linux kernel just fine, provided that: - you have a 32bit EFI bootloader (like grub-efi-ia32) - you disable Secure Boot or register the bootloader as trusted - the 32bit bootloader will load a 64bit kernel (which grub-efi-ia32 does) When building grub-efi, you also need to make sure that all necessary modules are compiled in, as grub will refuse to load external modules in Secure Boot mode. Yup. I should note though that not everything is running smoothly yet. On one particular device, the installed system only boots occasionally, usually just hanging at the Loading initrd... prompt. Further research is necessary. Right. If you'd just tried the multi-arch Debian CD netinst or DVD you'd probably have found that the installation just worked for you without having to fight with your own grub-efi-ia32 build etc.! I'm *not* planning on adding the 32-bit grub binary packages to our amd64 CD images just yet. I'll want to add installer build code to get them booting easily in 32-bit first. Until then, please stick with the multi-arch images. OK? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky, Tongue-tied twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150612193708.gx3...@einval.com
Re: Bug#788532: grub-efi-ia32-bin should be shipped on install DVD
Control: reassign -1 debian-cd
This is actually the responsibility of the debian-cd package,
reassigning.
On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 15:17 +0200, Gregor Riepl wrote:
Package: grub-efi-ia32-bin
Version: 2.02~beta2-22
Severity: important
Tags: d-i
Dear Maintainer,
When installing Debian 8 on a system with a x86_64 CPU, but with a 32bit UEFI,
debian-installer correctly identifies the system as requiring a 32bit EFI
Grub,
and thus tries to install grub-efi-ia32-bin.
However, this package is not contained on the amd64 installation DVD,
requiring
an active internet connection to get the package from a package server. This
may not always be possible, for example when the network hardware is not
supported by the installed Linux kernel and no alternative network connection
is available.
Please add this package to the installation DVD so an internet connection is
not required during installation.
Thank you.
-- Package-specific info:
*** WARNING grub-setup left core.img in filesystem
*** BEGIN /proc/mounts
/dev/dm-0 / ext4 rw,noatime,discard,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered 0 0
/dev/sda1 /boot vfat
rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=utf8,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro
0 0
*** END /proc/mounts
*** BEGIN /boot/grub/device.map
(hd0) /dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_MZ7TD256HAFV-000L7_S16GNEAD601136
(hd1) /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Pattern_3109330F0440D127-0:0
*** END /boot/grub/device.map
*** BEGIN /boot/grub/grub.cfg
#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
set have_grubenv=true
load_env
fi
if [ ${next_entry} ] ; then
set default=${next_entry}
set next_entry=
save_env next_entry
set boot_once=true
else
set default=0
fi
if [ x${feature_menuentry_id} = xy ]; then
menuentry_id_option=--id
else
menuentry_id_option=
fi
export menuentry_id_option
if [ ${prev_saved_entry} ]; then
set saved_entry=${prev_saved_entry}
save_env saved_entry
set prev_saved_entry=
save_env prev_saved_entry
set boot_once=true
fi
function savedefault {
if [ -z ${boot_once} ]; then
saved_entry=${chosen}
save_env saved_entry
fi
}
function load_video {
if [ x$feature_all_video_module = xy ]; then
insmod all_video
else
insmod efi_gop
insmod efi_uga
insmod ieee1275_fb
insmod vbe
insmod vga
insmod video_bochs
insmod video_cirrus
fi
}
if [ x$feature_default_font_path = xy ] ; then
font=unicode
else
insmod part_gpt
insmod fat
set root='hd0,gpt1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,gpt1
--hint-efi=hd0,gpt1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,gpt1 --hint='hd0,gpt1' 200E-9FE4
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 200E-9FE4
fi
font=/grub/unicode.pf2
fi
if loadfont $font ; then
set gfxmode=auto
load_video
insmod gfxterm
set locale_dir=$prefix/locale
set lang=C
insmod gettext
fi
terminal_output gfxterm
if [ ${recordfail} = 1 ] ; then
set timeout=-1
else
if [ x$feature_timeout_style = xy ] ; then
set timeout_style=menu
set timeout=5
# Fallback normal timeout code in case the timeout_style feature is
# unavailable.
else
set timeout=5
fi
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
insmod part_gpt
insmod fat
set root='hd0,gpt1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,gpt1
--hint-efi=hd0,gpt1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,gpt1 --hint='hd0,gpt1' 200E-9FE4
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 200E-9FE4
fi
insmod png
if background_image /grub/.background_cache.png; then
set color_normal=white/black
set color_highlight=black/white
else
set menu_color_normal=cyan/blue
set menu_color_highlight=white/blue
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
function gfxmode {
set gfxpayload=${1}
}
set linux_gfx_mode=
export linux_gfx_mode
menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux' --class debian --class gnu-linux --class gnu
--class os $menuentry_id_option
'gnulinux-simple-c4db752c-876c-403f-9197-ccf5f677265f' {
load_video
insmod gzio
if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
insmod part_gpt
insmod fat
set root='hd0,gpt1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,gpt1
--hint-efi=hd0,gpt1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,gpt1 --hint='hd0,gpt1' 200E-9FE4
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root
Re: Doubts about Debian8.1 DVD ppc64el image
Hi, inspection of the ISOs is not needed any more, since we now know that your algorithm expects powerpc bootable ISOs, not those for ppc64el. Nevertheless, as we are at it: Here is the output of xorriso: ... System area summary: MBR CHRP cyl-align-off ISO image size/512 : 9162480 ... MBR partition table: N Status TypeStart Blocks MBR partition : 1 0x80 0x960 9162480 Drive current: -indev '/root/debian-8.1.0-ppc64el-DVD-1.iso' That's CHRP without HFS. Preparer Id : XORRISO-1.3.6 2014.04.08.18, LIBISOBURN-1.3.6, LIBISOFS-1.3.6, LIBBURN-1.3.6 Dear packagers: Version 1.4.0 is out :) The debian-7.8.0-powerpc-netinst.iso yields: System area summary: MBR CHRP cyl-align-off APM ISO image size/512 : 529812 ... MBR partition table: N Status TypeStart Blocks MBR partition : 1 0x80 0x960 529212 APM: N Info APM block size : 512 APM gap fillers: 0 APM partition name : 1 Debian 7.8.0 ppc 1 APM partition type : 1 Apple_HFS APM start and size : 1 16 529196 Drive current: -indev 'debian-7.8.0-powerpc-netinst.iso' ... App Id : GENISOIMAGE ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM CREATOR (C) 1993 E.YOUNGDALE (C) 1997-2006 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING (C) 2006-2007 CDRKIT TEAM The difference between ISO size and partition size probably comes from genisoimage default padding of 300 KiB. I think this is not fully CHRP compliant. Shrug. Have a nice day :) Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/16300568206108542...@scdbackup.webframe.org
Processed: Re: Bug#788532: grub-efi-ia32-bin should be shipped on install DVD
Processing control commands: reassign -1 debian-cd Bug #788532 [grub-efi-ia32-bin] grub-efi-ia32-bin should be shipped on install DVD Bug reassigned from package 'grub-efi-ia32-bin' to 'debian-cd'. No longer marked as found in versions grub2/2.02~beta2-22. Ignoring request to alter fixed versions of bug #788532 to the same values previously set -- 788532: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=788532 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/handler.s.b788532.143412652415046.transcr...@bugs.debian.org
Re: Doubts about Debian8.1 DVD ppc64el image
On 06/11/2015 05:23 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
Our algorithm is
failing to discover if this iso[1] is bootable.
I am curious to learn about the expectations of that algorithm.
The ISO looks like being bootable via CHRP.
From my cheatsheet
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~libburnia-team/libisofs/scdbackup/view/head:/doc/boot_sectors.txt
CHRP is marked by an MBR partition entry of type 0x96 spanning the whole
ISO 9660 image.
I cannot spot ppc64el in
http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/latest-oldstable/powerpc/iso-cd/
Old-stable powerpc was made by genisoimage rather than xorriso.
It has an Apple Partition Map additionally to the CHRP MBR,
probably pointing to a HFS filesystem.
So if your algorithm looks for magic number {'E','R'}
at the start of the file, that would be what's missing in ppc64el
ISOs. (Together with the HFS, of course.)
In case this does not yet explain the riddle:
What was the most recent ISO which passed your tests ?
Can you run GNU xorriso = 1.3.8 on that ISO ?
(Debian's xorriso is still at 1.3.2, i fear.)
xorriso -indev ...iso \
-report_el_torito plain \
-report_system_area plain \
-pvd_info
Here is the output of xorriso:
root@debian:/home/ramonn/xorriso-1.4.0# ./xorriso/xorriso -indev
/root/debian-8.1.0-ppc64el-DVD-1.iso -report_el_torito plain
-report_system_area plain -pvd_info
GNU xorriso 1.4.0 : RockRidge filesystem manipulator, libburnia project.
xorriso : NOTE : Loading ISO image tree from LBA 0
xorriso : UPDATE : 9554 nodes read in 1 seconds
Drive current: -indev '/root/debian-8.1.0-ppc64el-DVD-1.iso'
Media current: stdio file, overwriteable
Media status : is written , is appendable
Boot record : (system area only) , MBR CHRP cyl-align-off
Media summary: 1 session, 2290620 data blocks, 4474m data, 3339m free
Volume id: 'Debian 8.1.0 ppc64el 1'
xorriso : NOTE : No El Torito information was loaded
System area options: 0x0600
System area summary: MBR CHRP cyl-align-off
ISO image size/512 : 9162480
Partition offset : 0
MBR heads per cyl : 0
MBR secs per head : 0
MBR partition table: N Status TypeStart Blocks
MBR partition : 1 0x80 0x960 9162480
Drive current: -indev '/root/debian-8.1.0-ppc64el-DVD-1.iso'
PVD address : 16s
Volume Id: Debian 8.1.0 ppc64el 1
Volume Set Id:
Publisher Id :
Preparer Id : XORRISO-1.3.6 2014.04.08.18, LIBISOBURN-1.3.6,
LIBISOFS-1.3.6, LIBBURN-1.3.6
App Id :
System Id:
CopyrightFile:
Abstract File:
Biblio File :
Creation Time: 2015060622352300
Modif. Time : 2015060622352300
Expir. Time :
Eff. Time:
root@debian:/home/ramonn/xorriso-1.4.0#
Have a nice day :)
Thomas
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Re: Bug#788532: grub-efi-ia32-bin should be shipped on install DVD
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 05:28:37PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: Control: reassign -1 debian-cd This is actually the responsibility of the debian-cd package, reassigning. Agreed! On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 15:17 +0200, Gregor Riepl wrote: Package: grub-efi-ia32-bin Version: 2.02~beta2-22 Severity: important Tags: d-i Dear Maintainer, When installing Debian 8 on a system with a x86_64 CPU, but with a 32bit UEFI, debian-installer correctly identifies the system as requiring a 32bit EFI Grub, and thus tries to install grub-efi-ia32-bin. However, this package is not contained on the amd64 installation DVD, requiring an active internet connection to get the package from a package server. This may not always be possible, for example when the network hardware is not supported by the installed Linux kernel and no alternative network connection is available. Please add this package to the installation DVD so an internet connection is not required during installation. Hi Gregor, I'm the guy who's done the work for the mixed-EFI case here. How did you get the amd64 installer DVD to boot on your 32-bit UEFI system in the first place? That's an important (and harder) part of this. It's the reason why I explicitly only added support for mixed-EFI to our multi-arch i386/amd64 CDs and DVDs in the first place... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Aardvark I dislike C++ to start with. C++11 just seems to be handing rope-creating factories for users to hang multiple instances of themselves. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150612165228.gf30...@einval.com
