Re: Upcoming Lenny Point Release

[Adam D. Barratt]

Luk Claes wrote:

Unfortunately I won't be available the next couple of days and Phil
was rather busy up to now (and I expect that to continue for some time
still), so the point release will be delayed for at least a week.
Hopefully we will be able to do the point release next Saturday, I
hope Phil or some of our Release Assistants can confirm that soon.


Apologies for the slight delay, but just to confirm that the point release 
is now scheduled for this coming Saturday, June 27th.


Cheers,

Adam 



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Re: Upcoming Lenny point release

[Adam D. Barratt]

Adam D. Barratt wrote:

The next Lenny point release (5.0.3) is scheduled for Saturday,
September 5th.


The point release has now been moved slightly forward - we'll be aiming to 
start around 19:00 UTC this evening so the updated packages should start 
appearing on mirrors overnight (UTC).


Apologies for the short notice of the change.

Regards,

Adam


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Upcoming lenny point release

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next Lenny point release (5.0.4) is scheduled for the evening of
Friday, January 29th.

Stable NEW will be frozen during the weekend of January 23rd - 24th.

Regards,

Adam


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Upcoming etch point release

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next point release for the etch oldstable distribution, 4.0r9, is
scheduled for Saturday, 22nd May.

This will be the final point release for etch, which will be moved to
archive.debian.org in the near future.

Regards,

Adam


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Upcoming Lenny point release

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next Lenny point release (5.0.5) is scheduled for Saturday, June
26th.

Stable NEW will be frozen during the weekend of June 19th - 20th.

Regards,

Adam


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Upcoming lenny point release

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next Lenny point release (5.0.6) is scheduled for Saturday,
September 4th.

Stable NEW will be frozen during the weekend of August 28th - 29th.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: Some updates not contained on point release DVDs

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Sun, 2010-09-26 at 21:12 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 08:51:50PM +0200, Hilmar Preusse wrote:
 I noticed that some (security) updates for Debian lenny are available
 from debian/security for a while, but never made it on an point
 release DVD image. Examples?
 
 hi...@drachi:~$ apt-cache policy openjdk-6-jre
[...]
 More examples are: squid, vlc, openldap... Most updates however are
 on this discs like linux-image-2.6-686.
[...]
 It's worth asking
 the stable release manager(s) or the security team why these updates
 have not made it into the lenny point releases. I'm interested
 myself...

Packages from stable-security only get accepted in to proposed-updates
(and therefore into stable) once the packages are available for all
architectures; otherwise, once the package is in proposed-updates, the
standard autobuilders will try building it for the missing architectures
which will cause problems if the package is later provided via the
security archive, as the packages will most likely not be identical but
will have the same version number.

For the specific cases mentioned, openjdk-6 is missing an s390 build,
squid the armel build and vlc the mips build; openldap has two issues -
2.4.11-1+lenny1 was missing armel and s390 builds and +lenny3 was
automatically rejected when it was pushed from the security archive to
ftp-master, as the initial upload was source-only.

This information can also be seen in the resolution pending section of
http://release.debian.org/proposed-updates/stable.html ; hopefully the
above is sufficiently detailed, but please let us know if there are any
further queries.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: Some updates not contained on point release DVDs

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 19:42 +0200, Hilmar Preusse wrote:
 On 26.09.10 Adam D. Barratt (a...@adam-barratt.org.uk) wrote:
  Packages from stable-security only get accepted in to
  proposed-updates (and therefore into stable) once the packages are
  available for all architectures
[...]
 So there is a chance that these builds gets a future point release of
 Debian lenny (if there will be one), right?

If the missing builds become available then, yes, they will be included
in a future point release.  For etch, the final point release (before it
was moved to archive.debian.org) included all of the remaining available
security updates, even where attempts to build them on the missing
architectures had been unsuccessful.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: lack of gnome on squeeze CD #1

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 20:01 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
 Le dimanche 05 décembre 2010 à 14:02 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : 
   How should I name the new metapackage? My first thought is just to move
   these packages from gnome-desktop-environment to gnome-core, and to make
   gnome-core the key package.
  
  Sounds ok to me.
 
 I’ve uploaded meta-gnome2 1:2.30+7 with the proposed changes, except
 for: 
   * gdm3: you’ll still have to add it in tasksel 
   * libgnome2-perl, which on second thought is mostly useless
 without synaptic
 
 Please unblock.

Unblocked by Mehdi.

Regards,

Adam


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Upcoming squeeze point release

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The first Squeeze point release (6.0.1) is scheduled for Saturday, March
19th.

Stable NEW will be frozen during the weekend of the 12/13th.

Regards,

Adam


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Planning for final lenny point release (5.0.10)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

Working on the four-monthly schedule for oldstable, the next lenny point
release would be due in early February.

As the security team have recently confirmed that security support for
lenny will end on February 6th (a year after the release of squeeze) it
makes sense to schedule 5.0.10 to be after that date and make it the
final roll-up point release for lenny.

From the experience of etch's EOL point release, we'll need a little
time to sort out any remaining build issues for security packages after
the end of support.  The earliest we'd therefore be looking at would be
the weekend of 11/12th February.

Comments / thoughts / suggestions?

Regards,

Adam


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Planning for next squeeze point release (6.0.4)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

Yep, it's that time again.  Based on a bi-monthly schedule, 6.0.4 would
be due around mid-January.

We may want to adjust timings a little, so that we don't end up trying
to set deadlines for things like kernel and d-i changes being ready over
the holiday period.

As an opening gambit, I'd propose we look at one of the following
Saturdays in January: 14th, 21st, 28th.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: Planning for final lenny point release (5.0.10)

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 21:39 +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
 On 12693 March 1977, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 
  From the experience of etch's EOL point release, we'll need a little
  time to sort out any remaining build issues for security packages after
  the end of support.  The earliest we'd therefore be looking at would be
  the weekend of 11/12th February.
 
 Does sound fine to me, but do you really want only one week between the
 end of security and the final point release? Its not much time, should
 security really push out something that ends up plenty broken... How
 high THAT possibility is i dont know, but meh.

It was an absolute earliest date but, yes, we should probably leave a
little longer just in case[tm].

To be on the safe side, maybe we should consider weekends between mid
February and mid-to-late March?

Cheers,

Adam


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Re: Planning for next squeeze point release (6.0.4)

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 22:41 +0100, Daniel Baumann wrote:
 On 12/13/2011 12:07 AM, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
  As an opening gambit, I'd propose we look at one of the following
  Saturdays in January: 14th, 21st, 28th.
 
 21st and 28th (with the respective day after the actual release day, to
 do the live images) are fine for me.

The 28th would be preferable for me.  Would that still work for everyone
else?

Regards,

Adam


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Re: Planning for next squeeze point release (6.0.4)

[Adam D. Barratt]

press@, -live - ping?

On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 20:12 +, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 22:41 +0100, Daniel Baumann wrote:
  On 12/13/2011 12:07 AM, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
   As an opening gambit, I'd propose we look at one of the following
   Saturdays in January: 14th, 21st, 28th.
  
  21st and 28th (with the respective day after the actual release day, to
  do the live images) are fine for me.
 
 The 28th would be preferable for me.  Would that still work for everyone
 else?
 
 Regards,
 
 Adam


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Re: Planning for final lenny point release (5.0.10)

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 23:05 +, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 Working on the four-monthly schedule for oldstable, the next lenny point
 release would be due in early February.
 
 As the security team have recently confirmed that security support for
 lenny will end on February 6th (a year after the release of squeeze) it
 makes sense to schedule 5.0.10 to be after that date and make it the
 final roll-up point release for lenny.

So, security EOL for lenny has now passed.  We're in sync with the
security archive and the only missing packages are
openjdk-6/{alpha,ia64} and opie/{arm,armel}.  AIUI the chances of those
ever building are remote but, given that we've nothing to lose we might
as well go ahead and accept them in to o-p-u and see what happens[tm].

I can't see any outstanding o-p-u package bugs in the BTS.  If there's
any I missed on the list, please yell.

-kernel, -boot - were there any plans for a final kernel and/or d-i
upload for lenny?  If so we need to get those sorted asap.

In terms of scheduling for the point release itself, the current
suggestions are:

25-26/2 - Steve's not available for CDs

3-4/3 - Cambridge BSP.  Should be do-able as long as I can get decent
connectivity at the right time. :-)

10-11/3 - Joerg mentioned he's not available on the Sunday, but that's
only really an issue if stuff breaks and it then transpires that Mark's
also unavailable to help fix the world.

Thoughts / preferences / anything I missed?

Cheers,

Adam


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Re: Planning for final lenny point release (5.0.10)

[Adam D. Barratt]

On 14.02.2012 21:36, Adam D. Barratt wrote:

On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 23:05 +, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
As the security team have recently confirmed that security support 
for
lenny will end on February 6th (a year after the release of squeeze) 
it

makes sense to schedule 5.0.10 to be after that date and make it the
final roll-up point release for lenny.

[...]

3-4/3 - Cambridge BSP.  Should be do-able as long as I can get decent
connectivity at the right time. :-)

10-11/3 - Joerg mentioned he's not available on the Sunday, but 
that's
only really an issue if stuff breaks and it then transpires that 
Mark's

also unavailable to help fix the world.


Based on responses so far, I'm plumping for the 10th.  If that doesn't 
work for anyone, please yell really soon, because I'd like to get an 
announcement of the date sent out.


Regards,

Adam


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Upcoming oldstable point release

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next - and final - point release for lenny (5.0.10) is scheduled
for Saturday March 10th.  Oldstable NEW will be frozen during the coming
weekend (3rd/4th).

As this will be the last point release for lenny, it will be moved to
archive.debian.org in the near future (most likely on or after March
24th).

Regards,

Adam


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Squeeze point release (6.0.5)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

6.0.5 is somewhat overdue now and I've been procrastinating over
organising it for a while.  So before I find something else to distract
myself with, some suggested dates:

May 5/6: Probably doable; would mean we need to close p-u-NEW over the
coming weekend.

May 12/13: York BSP.  Probably not the best time for CDs, given that
Steve would be at the wrong end of the country.  (As will I, but that's
less of an issue)

May 19/20:

May 26/27:

Thoughts / comments?

Regards,

Adam


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Re: Squeeze point release (6.0.5)

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 21:06 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 6.0.5 is somewhat overdue now and I've been procrastinating over
 organising it for a while.  So before I find something else to distract
 myself with, some suggested dates:

It looks like the discussion has converged towards:

 May 12/13: York BSP.  Probably not the best time for CDs, given that
 Steve would be at the wrong end of the country.  (As will I, but that's
 less of an issue)

If that's an issue for anyone, please let me know asap; otherwise I'll
aim to get an announcement sent out in the next day or so.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: [RFH] Release of D-I Alpha1

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 16:31 -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
 To what we had for a1 basically:
 
  get CD images built (Steve, yey!);
  test them
  finish announce mail
  mail to to d-d-a if all above work

How are things going with that?

Regards,

Adam


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Re: [RFH] Release of D-I Alpha1

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:54 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 04:49:40PM +0100, Adam Barratt wrote:
 On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 16:31 -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
  To what we had for a1 basically:
  
   get CD images built (Steve, yey!);
   test them
   finish announce mail
   mail to to d-d-a if all above work
 
 How are things going with that?
 
 I can do an alpha build of CDs whenever they're desired, just let me
 know when things are looking ready.

Ah, I'd somewhat assumed that Otavio's Steve, yey! above meant that
he'd already talked to you about that. :-/ 

From the -release side, I think we should get on with producing and
testing images asap.  Forgive my ignorance on the d-i side, but is there
an easily accessible / parseable list of reported issues with the
dailies which might be considered show stoppers?  I guess they'd have
to be fairly severe to be blockers for an alpha though.

Regards,

Adam


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Upcoming stable point release (6.0.5)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next point release for squeeze (6.0.5) is scheduled for Saturday 
May 12th.  Stable NEW will be frozen during the preceding weekend 
(5/6th).

As usual, base-files can be uploaded at any point before the freeze.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: [RFH] Release of D-I Alpha1

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 17:36 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:54 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
  I can do an alpha build of CDs whenever they're desired, just let me
  know when things are looking ready.
 
 Ah, I'd somewhat assumed that Otavio's Steve, yey! above meant that
 he'd already talked to you about that. :-/ 
 
 From the -release side, I think we should get on with producing and
 testing images asap.  Forgive my ignorance on the d-i side, but is there
 an easily accessible / parseable list of reported issues with the
 dailies which might be considered show stoppers?  I guess they'd have
 to be fairly severe to be blockers for an alpha though.

Any hints?

Regards,

Adam


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Re: [RFH] Release of D-I Alpha1

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 23:09 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 17:36 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
  On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:54 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
   I can do an alpha build of CDs whenever they're desired, just let me
   know when things are looking ready.
  
  Ah, I'd somewhat assumed that Otavio's Steve, yey! above meant that
  he'd already talked to you about that. :-/ 
  
  From the -release side, I think we should get on with producing and
  testing images asap.  Forgive my ignorance on the d-i side, but is there
  an easily accessible / parseable list of reported issues with the
  dailies which might be considered show stoppers?  I guess they'd have
  to be fairly severe to be blockers for an alpha though.
 
 Any hints?

So, in the absence of any replies or better ideas on IRC, I've scheduled
a binNMU for d-i on amd64.  If that goes okay then I'll do the other
architectures and we can look at where we go from there.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: [RFH] Release of D-I Alpha1

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Sun, 2012-05-06 at 15:35 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 So, in the absence of any replies or better ideas on IRC, I've scheduled
 a binNMU for d-i on amd64.  If that goes okay then I'll do the other
 architectures and we can look at where we go from there.

Apparently I missed that one of the outstanding changes in git was quite
important - the kfreebsd-* binNMUs failed due to the kernel version
having changed from 8.2 to 8.3, which was covered by
ae6982018059e936e1b0fe5e72a9f735fb8db92a

So we'd need a source upload of d-i in order to get working kfreebsd-*
images.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: The curious case of openjdk-6-jre-headless_6b24-1.11.1-3_amd64.deb in d7.01alpha

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Wed, 2012-05-16 at 00:30 +0530, shirish शिरीष wrote:
 On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:55 PM, shirish शिरीष shirisha...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is the latest effort with another mirror, as can be seen also stuck :-
[...]
 -
 100 files not found in previous pass, trying
 alternative download locations:

wheezy now has openjdk-6-jre-headless 6b24-1.11.1-6, which explains the
host chosen for this:

 --2012-05-16 00:13:05--
 http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20120511T175706Z/pool/main/o/openjdk-6/openjdk-6-jre-headless_6b24-1.11.1-3_amd64.deb
[...]
 49,40,020   29.1K/s  eta 11m 22s71%
 [==
 ] 1,80,08,880 30.5K/s   in 10m 5s
 
 2012-05-16 00:23:10 (29.1 KB/s) - Connection closed at byte 18008880. 
 Retrying.
 As can be seen something causes the connection to close at 70/71% ,
 
 Can somebody please take a look.

Unfortunately, neither the Release nor CD teams can do anything about
issues between your systems and snapshot.debian.org.  You might try
contacting the administrators of that service, although I'd suggest
trying to download the package from an alternative location first to
rule out any issues with your own connectivity.

For reference, I've just downloaded the content of the URL you quoted
without any issues.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: The curious case of openjdk-6-jre-headless_6b24-1.11.1-3_amd64.deb in d7.01alpha

[Adam D. Barratt]

On 16.05.2012 04:06, shirish शिरीष wrote:

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Adam D. Barratt
a...@adam-barratt.org.uk wrote:

On Wed, 2012-05-16 at 00:30 +0530, shirish शिरीष wrote:
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:55 PM, shirish शिरीष 
shirisha...@gmail.com wrote:

--2012-05-16 00:13:05--

http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20120511T175706Z/pool/main/o/openjdk-6/openjdk-6-jre-headless_6b24-1.11.1-3_amd64.deb

[...]

49,40,020   29.1K/s  eta 11m 22s71%
[==
        ] 1,80,08,880 30.5K/s   in 10m 5s

2012-05-16 00:23:10 (29.1 KB/s) - Connection closed at byte 
18008880. Retrying.

As can be seen something causes the connection to close at 70/71% ,

Can somebody please take a look.


Unfortunately, neither the Release nor CD teams can do anything 
about

issues between your systems and snapshot.debian.org.  You might try
contacting the administrators of that service, although I'd suggest
trying to download the package from an alternative location first to
rule out any issues with your own connectivity.


I don't know any other alternative location, can you recommend one ?


I meant running the download from another location, not trying to 
download the file /from/ another location.  So anywhere other than 
wherever the download quoted above was performed (i.e. to try to 
determine if there's a more general issue with connectivity to the 
snapshot systems).


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Re: Preparation for d-i beta 1

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On 26.06.2012 16:35, Cyril Brulebois wrote:

Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (25/06/2012):

 - udeb freeze.


debian-release, please put that back into place. Thanks already!


Done.

As discussed, I've enabled all of the blocks, including those in the 
can be handled by britney category.  If people moan, I'll know where 
to point them. ;-)


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Re: Preparation for d-i beta 1

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Wed, 2012-06-27 at 17:59 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 05:07:50PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
  On 26.06.2012 16:35, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
  Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (25/06/2012):
   - udeb freeze.
  
  debian-release, please put that back into place. Thanks already!
  
  Done.
  
  As discussed, I've enabled all of the blocks, including those in the
  can be handled by britney category.  If people moan, I'll know
  where to point them. ;-)
[...]
 So presumably there will be no testing migration of linux until after
 d-i beta 1?  I'm just wondering whether it's worth uploading right now
 to fix the sparc FTBFS or whether this should be left until we have
 other substantial changes.

[mentioned on IRC, but for the record] The grand plan[tm] for beta1
includes a kernel migration, so having it build everywhere soon would be
appreciated :-)

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Re: Finalizing beta2: please dak copy-installer, urgent d-i, build images

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On 03.09.2012 09:31, Cyril Brulebois wrote:

Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (02/09/2012):

 - urgent d-i


Done, along with an unblock.


 - start building installation images (I think it needs at least a
   dinstall + a mirror pulse though); putting them into a “dot-dir”
   for the time being would be nice.


Ping?


fwiw, I see no sign of the original mail on debian-release...

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Re: Closing in for d-i wheezy beta 3

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On Wed, 2012-09-26 at 19:11 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 # XXX: second look appreciated
 # xz compression + 4 RC bug fixes
 unblock grub2/1.99-23
 unblock-udeb grub2/1.99-23

Looks sane enough to me.

 # single bugfix for pf crash, no-op for d-i:
 unblock kfreebsd-9/9.0-6
 unblock-udeb kfreebsd-9/9.0-6

Also already unblocked. ;-)

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6.0.7 planning

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Hi,

We're somewhat overdue with the next Squeeze point release (6.0.7) and
it'd be good to get it done before the wheezy release, so that we can
pull in some upgrade fixes. As an opening gambit, some proposed dates,
all of which appear to currently work for me:

February 23rd

March 2nd

March 9th

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Upcoming stable point release (6.0.7)

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Hi,

The next point release for squeeze (6.0.7) is scheduled for Saturday 
February 23rd.  Stable NEW will be frozen during the preceding Monday
(18th).

As usual, base-files can be uploaded at any point before the freeze.

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Re: Bug#705530: unblock: brltty/4.4-10

[Adam D. Barratt]

On 18.04.2013 16:06, Cyril Brulebois wrote:

Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk (17/04/2013):

On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 10:18 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 Please unblock package brltty

 The intent of these changes is to fix bug #680636 by allowing to 
use the
 braille keyboard to type login/passwd at gdm3, by automatically 
running

 the braille key presses relay tool, xbrlapi.

Looks reasonable to me, but will need KiBi-love (I realise the 
changes

don't affect the udeb).


As discussed in the following mails, please make brltty migrate ASAP
so that we can resume building images:


== adsb
  # 20130418
  # RoKiBi
  unblock brltty/4.4-10
  unblock-udeb brltty/4.4-10
  urgent brltty/4.4-10

Should migrate tonight so be on mirrors after tomorrow's 0152.

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Re: Bug#705435: Gnome installability vs. GNU/kFreeBSD

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Fri, 2013-04-19 at 17:17 +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
 Le jeudi, 18 avril 2013 12.55:09, Steven Chamberlain a écrit :
  It would be really helpful if you are able to test again with pulseaudio
  (+ libpulse0) patched with:
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=20;filename=kfreebsd-bug70
  5435.patch;att=1;bug=705435
  
  For me, it fixes all of the issues above.
 
 Indeed; compiled pulseaudio with that patch and could then successfully start 
 gdm3 and then Gnome. Couldn't reliably test the audio though.
 
 It's in any case an improvement over what's now in kFreeBSD, I suggest to NMU 
 pulseaudio with it soon.

Soon would be good, indeed...

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Wheezy point release planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

Based on some informal queries a little while ago, the weekend of 15/16
June looks like a good date for the first wheezy point release. Would
that work for everyone?

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Re: Next (old)stable point releases

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Mon, 2013-09-02 at 18:35 +0200, Joey Schulze wrote:
 Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: 

[I don't appear to have Jonathan's mail - and nor do the list archives -
so piggy-backing on Joey's.]

  We're much longer overdue for oldstable (February) than we are for stable
  (June); if we stagger them, should we consider oldstable first?

It would quite probably be easier to do stable first, despite the above.

We have a few packages in both p-u and o-p-u currently which are newer
upstream versions (mostly via security), such that p-u  o-p-u  stable
 oldstable. If the oldstable point release occurs first, we either have
to not include those packages until 6.0.9 or temporarily have oldstable
 stable, which is at best confusing. (We've been in the latter
situation previously, for 5.0.9 / 6.0.3, and after some debate on the
day decided to include the packages in any case; I'm not sure we should
take that as precedent, however.)

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Re: Next (old)stable point releases

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 14:59 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 03:55:14PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
 we should start thinking about dates for the 7.2 and 6.0.8 point
 releases.  Which week-ends in the coming months would work for
 ftpmaster, press and cd?  (We'd need one date for stable and another
 later for oldstable.)

Apologies for the delay from my side.

[...]
 - Sep 7-8

That's obviously too close now.

 - Sep 28-29

I'm at a family event on that Saturday; it would be doable if someone
else is available though.

 - Oct 12-13
 - Oct 19-20

Either of those is fine for me.

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Upcoming stable point release (7.2)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next point release for wheezy (7.2) is scheduled for Saturday 
October 12th.  Stable NEW will be frozen during the preceding weekend.

As usual, base-files can be uploaded at any point before the freeze.

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Upcoming oldstable point release (6.0.8)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next point release for squeeze (6.0.8) is scheduled for Saturday 
October 19th.  Oldstable NEW will be frozen during the preceding
weekend.

As usual, base-files can be uploaded at any point before the freeze.

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Re: Scheduling for 7.3

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Sat, 2013-11-16 at 14:57 +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
 According to the normal schedule, the point release for 7.3 is due 
 somewhere around 12th December.

Sorry for the delayed reply. :|

 How does everybody look for the weekends of:
 14th/5th

Looks okay at the moment.

 21st/22nd

I'm away that weekend, unfortunately.

 28th/29th December?

Should be okay.

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Re: Scheduling for 7.3

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Sat, 2013-11-16 at 14:57 +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
 According to the normal schedule, the point release for 7.3 is due 
 somewhere around 12th December.
 
 How does everybody look for the weekends of:
 14th/5th
 21st/22nd
 28th/29th December?

Based on the responses so far, if we want to be sure to have an
ftpmaster, SRM and CD-master available then it looks like the 14th might
be the best bet.

If we are going to settle on that date then we'd be looking at freezing
p-u-NEW next weekend and should therefore announce it RSN.

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Upcoming stable point release (7.3)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next point release for wheezy (7.3) is scheduled for Saturday 
December 14th.  Stable NEW will be frozen during the preceding weekend.

As usual, base-files can be uploaded at any point before the freeze.

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Scheduling 7.4 and 6.0.9

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

Our standard time intervals lead to us looking at point releases for
both stable and oldstable during February.

The weekend of the 1st / 2nd February is FOSDEM, so probably best avoided. :-)
How are people fixed for:

8th / 9th February
15th / 16th February
22nd / 23rd February
1st / 2nd March

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Re: Scheduling 7.4 and 6.0.9

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Wed, 2014-01-08 at 10:27 +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 05:50:27AM +, Adam Barratt wrote:
 Our standard time intervals lead to us looking at point releases for
 both stable and oldstable during February.
 
 The weekend of the 1st / 2nd February is FOSDEM, so probably best avoided. 
 :-)
 How are people fixed for:
 
 8th / 9th February
 15th / 16th February
 22nd / 23rd February
 1st / 2nd March
 
 I'm around for the first two, then on vacation for the second two.

-live: ping? As mentioned on IRC, it looks like we'll be going for the
8th (probably 7.4) and 15th (probably 6.0.9).

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Upcoming stable point release (7.4)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next point release for wheezy (7.4) is scheduled for Saturday 
February 8th.  Stable NEW will be frozen during the preceding weekend.

As usual, base-files can be uploaded at any point before the freeze.

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Upcoming oldstable point release (6.0.9)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next point release for squeeze (6.0.9) is scheduled for Saturday 
February 15th.  Stable NEW will be frozen during the preceding weekend.

As usual, base-files can be uploaded at any point before the freeze.

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Re: Scheduling the 7.5 point release

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Sat, 2014-03-01 at 21:44 +0100, Niels Thykier wrote:
 We are slowly starting to prepare for the 7.5 point release and are
 suggesting one of the four following weekends:
 
  * April 12th/13th

Looks okay at the moment.

  * April 19th/20th (Easter)

I'm not available that weekend.

  * April 26th/27th
  * May 3rd/4th

Those both look okay.

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Re: Scheduling the 7.5 point release

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 09:01 +, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 On Sat, 2014-03-01 at 21:44 +0100, Niels Thykier wrote:
  We are slowly starting to prepare for the 7.5 point release and are
  suggesting one of the four following weekends:

Based on the replies and looking again at a calendar, let's go for:

   * April 26th/27th

If no-one yells by tomorrow evening then I'll look at getting a proper
announcement sorted out.

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Upcoming stable point release (7.5)

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Hi,

The next point release for wheezy (7.5) is scheduled for Saturday,
April 26th.  Stable NEW will be frozen during the preceding weekend.

As usual, base-files can be uploaded at any point before the freeze.

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Re: Scheduling the 7.5 point release

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 23:03 +, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 09:01 +, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
  On Sat, 2014-03-01 at 21:44 +0100, Niels Thykier wrote:
   We are slowly starting to prepare for the 7.5 point release and are
   suggesting one of the four following weekends:
 
 Based on the replies and looking again at a calendar, let's go for:
 
* April 26th/27th

Given a regression in the latest kernel upload in p-u (#745137) and a
lack of feedback so far on one of the larger hardware backports included
therein (igb), I'm wondering if it might make sense to push the date
back a week, to May 3rd, and give ourselves time to get things sorted
without rushing at the end of the week.

On the initial call, everyone indicated that they would be available
that weekend; is that still the case?

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7.6 and 6.0.10

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

(Somewhat belatedly) it's time to organise the next point releases for
Wheezy and Squeeze (7.6 and 6.0.10).

This will be the final point release for Squeeze, incorporating as many
of the packages from opu and squeeze-security as we can (some will
have to be skipped - there's a security package in opu-NEW and one in
opu where the versions are higher than both pu and stable, for
instance). As is often the case, that means it needs to occur after 7.6,
as there is currently at least one package where the versions sort as pu
 opu  stable  oldstable.

Giving ourselves the usual pre-window to get organised, some suggested
dates would be:

- June 28/29
- July 5/6
- July 12/13
- July 19/20
- July 26/27

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Re: 7.6 and 6.0.10

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Wed, 2014-06-11 at 00:03 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 09:53:21PM +0100, Adam Barratt wrote:
 (Somewhat belatedly) it's time to organise the next point releases for
 Wheezy and Squeeze (7.6 and 6.0.10).
[...]
 Apologies for the delay in responding...
 
 I believe I should be free for doing CD builds on all of those
 weekends.

Thanks.

Based on the replies received, I'm going for:

 - July 12/13

7.6

 - July 19/20

6.0.10

Announcements will be forthcoming shortly.

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Upcoming stable point release (7.6)

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Hi,

The next point release for wheezy (7.6) is scheduled for Saturday,
July 12th.  Stable NEW will be frozen during the preceding weekend.

As usual, base-files can be uploaded at any point before the freeze.

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Upcoming oldstable point release (6.0.10)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next (and final) point release for squeeze (6.0.10) is scheduled
for Saturday, July 19th.  Oldstable NEW will be frozen during the
preceding weekend.

As usual, base-files can be uploaded at any point before the freeze.

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7.7 planning

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Hi,

We're (over)due another wheezy point release; this time, 7.7. I propose
we go for one of:

11/12 October
18/19 October
25/26 October

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Re: 7.7 planning

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On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 12:56 +0100, Neil McGovern wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 08:38:37AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
  Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk writes:
   We're (over)due another wheezy point release; this time, 7.7. I propose
   we go for one of:
  
   11/12 October
   18/19 October
   25/26 October
  
  All of these are still good for me.
  
 
 All fine for me too.

Thanks for the responses. Based on those and comments on IRC, I'm going
for the 18th / 19th. I'll get a proper announcement sent out soon.

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Upcoming stable point release (7.7)

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Hi,

The next point release for wheezy (7.7) is scheduled for Saturday,
October 18th.  Stable NEW will be frozen during the preceding weekend.

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Bug#770870: Re: cdimage.debian.org: Untrustworthy key used to sign SHA512SUMS: DF9B 9C49 EAA9 2984 3258 9D76 DA87 E80D 6294 BE9B

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Mon, 2014-11-24 at 12:21 -0800, Gordon Morehouse wrote:
 Debian 7.7 SHA512SUMS are signed with a key that doesn't appear to be signed
 by anyone on the Debian keyring, leaving SHA512SUMS unverifiable by any easy
 means.

This is incorrect. (I have good reason to know that it is; see below.)

 Please note that I have the debian keyring installed in GPG on the machine
 on which the following operation was performed.
 
 
 $ gpg --verify SHA512SUMS.sign
 gpg: Signature made Sun Oct 19 19:45:39 2014 PDT using RSA key ID 6294BE9B
 gpg: Good signature from Debian CD signing key debian-cd@lists.debian.org
 gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
 gpg:  There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
 Primary key fingerprint: DF9B 9C49 EAA9 2984 3258  9D76 DA87 E80D 6294 BE9B

That output says absolutely nothing about whether the key is signed by
other keys which you have available. It simply says that you have not
personally trusted the key.

Actually checking the signatures on the key reveals:

$ gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg  
--keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-role-keys.gpg --list-sigs 6294BE9B 
pub   4096R/6294BE9B 2011-01-05
uid  Debian CD signing key debian-cd@lists.debian.org
sig  1B3045CE 2011-01-07  [User ID not found]
sig  3442684E 2011-01-05  Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com
sig  A40F862E 2011-01-05  Neil McGovern n...@halon.org.uk
sig  C542CD59 2011-01-05  Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk
sig  63C7CC90 2011-01-05  Simon McVittie s...@pseudorandom.co.uk
sig 36294BE9B 2011-01-05  Debian CD signing key 
debian-cd@lists.debian.org
sub   4096R/11CD9819 2011-01-05
sig  6294BE9B 2011-01-05  Debian CD signing key 
debian-cd@lists.debian.org

Regards,

Adam


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7.8 dates

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

In theory the 7.8 point release should be in December, but that's often
a pain to organise. So let's look at January instead:

3rd / 4th - I'm busy on the Saturday
10th / 11th - Fine for me
17th / 18th - jmw's BSP
24th / 25th - I can do Saturday morning, but will be afk from early
afternoon to Sunday afternoon
31st / 1st - Fine for me

Regards,

Adam


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Re: 7.8 dates

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 20:33 +, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 31st / 1st - Fine for me

I spotted earlier that that weekend is FOSDEM, which presumably changes
the answer for at least some people.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: 7.8 dates

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Sun, 2014-12-14 at 16:19 +0100, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk writes:
  In theory the 7.8 point release should be in December, but that's often
  a pain to organise. So let's look at January instead:
 
  3rd / 4th - I'm busy on the Saturday
  10th / 11th - Fine for me
  17th / 18th - jmw's BSP
  24th / 25th - I can do Saturday morning, but will be afk from early
  afternoon to Sunday afternoon
  31st / 1st - Fine for me

[later realised that's FOSEDEM]

 I have no fixed plans yet, but would prefer to keep 3rd/4th free. The
 other days all look fine.

Based on other responses, it looks like the 10th would work best (so
with the p-u freeze being the weekend of 3rd/4th). Does that still work
for everyone?

Regards,

Adam


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Upcoming stable point release (7.8)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next point release for wheezy (7.8) is scheduled for Saturday,
January 10th.  Stable NEW will be frozen during the preceding weekend.

Regards,

Adam


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8.1 (and maybe 7.9) planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

As seems to have become the norm, now that Jessie's out it's time to
start planning for the first point release.

We're also a little overdue for 7.9 as Jessie work took precedence; 7.9
really wants to take place after 8.1, as we have some packages for which
pu  opu  stable.

Suggested dates (all of which appear to be okay for me currently):

May 23/24
May 30/31 
June 6/7
June 13/14
June 20/21

Cheers,

Adam


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Re: 8.1 (and maybe 7.9) planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Fri, 2015-05-01 at 11:17 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 [Added some missed CCs; sigh]
 
 On 2015-04-30 22:16, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
  Hi,
  
  As seems to have become the norm, now that Jessie's out it's time to
  start planning for the first point release.
  
  We're also a little overdue for 7.9 as Jessie work took precedence; 7.9
  really wants to take place after 8.1, as we have some packages for 
  which pu  opu  stable.

Based on received responses and the current date, I'm proposing June 6th
for 8.1 (and then looking at other dates for 7.9). Does that still work
for people?

Regards,

Adam


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Upcoming stable point release (8.1)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The first point release for jessie (8.1) is scheduled for Saturday,
June 6th.  Stable NEW will be frozen during the preceding weekend.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: 8.1 (and maybe 7.9) planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Thu, 2015-05-21 at 09:56 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
 On 13947 March 1977, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
   As seems to have become the norm, now that Jessie's out it's time to
   start planning for the first point release.
   We're also a little overdue for 7.9 as Jessie work took precedence; 7.9
   really wants to take place after 8.1, as we have some packages for 
   which pu  opu  stable.
  Based on received responses and the current date, I'm proposing June 6th
  for 8.1 (and then looking at other dates for 7.9). Does that still work
  for people?
 
 Sounds ok to me. Start at 10 UTC or earlier/later?

I was assuming either 8ish UTC (skipping dinstall) or 10ish UTC (after
dinstall). Either would work for me, I'll just need more coffee for the
former. :-)

Regards,

Adam


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Re: 8.1 (and maybe 7.9) planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

press@ - ping? :-)

On Wed, 2015-05-20 at 21:22 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 On Fri, 2015-05-01 at 11:17 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
  [Added some missed CCs; sigh]
  
  On 2015-04-30 22:16, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
   Hi,
   
   As seems to have become the norm, now that Jessie's out it's time to
   start planning for the first point release.
   
   We're also a little overdue for 7.9 as Jessie work took precedence; 7.9
   really wants to take place after 8.1, as we have some packages for 
   which pu  opu  stable.
 
 Based on received responses and the current date, I'm proposing June 6th
 for 8.1 (and then looking at other dates for 7.9). Does that still work
 for people?
 
 Regards,
 
 Adam


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8.2 and 7.9 planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

We're somewhat overdue for both 8.2 and 7.9 now (in that order). Some
potential September dates:

5/6th - okay for me
12/13th - the 12th doesn't work for me until at least mid-afternoon
19th/20th - looks okay
26th/27th - looks okay

From a quick chat, it appears that the CD team are okay with us doing
the two releases back-to-back or on the same weekend, as long as we're
okay with the media sets being produced at a slight delay, particularly
for Wheezy; what are others thoughts on that?

Cheers,

Adam

Re: 8.2 and 7.9 planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Mon, 2015-08-24 at 20:23 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 On Wed, 2015-08-19 at 11:20 +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
  Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk writes:
   We're somewhat overdue for both 8.2 and 7.9 now (in that order). Some
   potential September dates:
  
   5/6th - okay for me
  
  Should be okay, provided I get internet on Aug 31st as planned.
 
 That's looking promising in general, although if we're going to go for
 it then we'd need to announce soon.
 
 If your Internet hasn't materialised by then, would either of the other
 ftp-masters be available?

Joerg indicated on IRC that he should be available.

At least some of us discussed at Debconf the idea of doing both point
releases on the same weekend; that seems to have been a good idea given
Steve's availability.

Is the 5th still okay with everyone, and do people have any preferences
in terms of whether we do the two back-to-back or 8.2 on Saturday and
7.9 on Sunday? (I'd prefer back-to-back personally, as it slightly
selfishly means I only have to do the post-point tidy-up once.)

Regards,

Adam

Re: 8.2 and 7.9 planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Wed, 2015-08-19 at 11:20 +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
 Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk writes:
  We're somewhat overdue for both 8.2 and 7.9 now (in that order). Some
  potential September dates:
 
  5/6th - okay for me
 
 Should be okay, provided I get internet on Aug 31st as planned.

That's looking promising in general, although if we're going to go for
it then we'd need to announce soon.

If your Internet hasn't materialised by then, would either of the other
ftp-masters be available?

Adam

Re: 8.2 and 7.9 planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

On 2015-08-24 23:19, Joerg Jaspert wrote:

On 14037 March 1977, Adam D. Barratt wrote:

We're somewhat overdue for both 8.2 and 7.9 now (in that order). Some
potential September dates:
5/6th - okay for me
12/13th - the 12th doesn't work for me until at least mid-afternoon
19th/20th - looks okay
26th/27th - looks okay


All dates do seem to work for me currently, assuming the ftpmaster foo
is done on Saturday (one right after the other?!), otherwise the 13th
won't work out.


If it's not too much of a pain for people, then one after the other 
seemed the most sure way of making sure we get both done closer together 
- the longer we leave things between 8.2 and 7.9, the more likely the 
latter is to be awkward due to version skew.



On the 5th I would be available only about 2 hours later than usual
starting times.


That seems like the favoured date so far, particularly given it's the 
only one that really works for Steve.


Adam

Upcoming stable point release (8.2)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next point release for jessie (8.2) is scheduled for Saturday,
September 5th.  Processing of new uploads into jessie-proposed-updates
will be frozen during the preceding weekend.

Regards,

Adam


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Upcoming oldstable point release (7.9)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next point release for wheezy (7.9) is scheduled for Saturday,
September 5th.  Processing of new uploads into wheezy-proposed-updates
will be frozen during the preceding weekend.

Regards,

Adam


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8.3 planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

We're a tad overdue for the 8.3 point release and with the holiday
period coming up, getting one done in December looks like a bit of a
push.

On that basis, looking at January we have:

2nd/3rd - depends how much people are still suffering. :-)
9th/10th
16th/17th
23rd/24th - likely to be bad for me

Regards,

Adam

Re: 8.3 planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Mon, 2015-12-14 at 19:33 +0100, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> On Sun, 2015-12-13 at 17:22 +0000, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> > On Sun, 2015-12-06 at 16:10 -0500, Donald Norwood wrote:
> > > On 12/04/2015 01:12 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 05:43:54PM +, Adam Barratt wrote:
> > > > > On that basis, looking at January we have:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 2nd/3rd - depends how much people are still suffering. :-)
> > > > No chance for me that weekend - I've got plans already.
> > > > 
> > > > > 9th/10th
> > > > > 16th/17th
> > > > > 23rd/24th - likely to be bad for me
> > > > All of these look OK so far.
> > > > 
> > > Press can do 16/17 or 23/24.
> > 
> > Just missing ftp-master then - ping :-)
> 
> Both 16/17 or 23/24 should be fine for me. Not quite sure about 9/10th.

It looks like the 23rd won't actually be as bad as I feared, so given
that everyone indicated it would work for them, let's go for that?

Regards,

Adam

Re: 8.3 planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Sun, 2015-12-06 at 16:10 -0500, Donald Norwood wrote:
> On 12/04/2015 01:12 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 05:43:54PM +, Adam Barratt wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We're a tad overdue for the 8.3 point release and with the holiday
> >> period coming up, getting one done in December looks like a bit of a
> >> push.
> >>
> >> On that basis, looking at January we have:
> >>
> >> 2nd/3rd - depends how much people are still suffering. :-)
> > No chance for me that weekend - I've got plans already.
> >
> >> 9th/10th
> >> 16th/17th
> >> 23rd/24th - likely to be bad for me
> > All of these look OK so far.
> >
> Press can do 16/17 or 23/24.

Just missing ftp-master then - ping :-)

Regards,

Adam

Upcoming stable point release (8.3)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next point release for "jessie" (8.3) is scheduled for Saturday,
January 23rd. Processing of new uploads into jessie-proposed-updates
will be frozen during the preceding weekend.

Regards,

Adam

Re: Cloud images with backports APT-enabled.

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Tue, 2016-01-12 at 00:14 -0500, Brian Gupta wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Charles Plessy  wrote:
> > Le Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:31:14PM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
> >>
> >> I started a discussion on the debian-backports mailing list.  Let's see 
> >> how it
> >> goes.
> >>
> >> 
> >
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > To summarise the original question:
> >
> > some Debian Stable images prepared by us for some "cloud" systems contain a 
> > few
> > hand-picked packages from stable-backports (or from testing or unstable, in
> > which case the creation of a stable backport could be considered).  To 
> > provide
> > a path for security and bug upgrades, the most straightforward way is to add
> > the stable-backports suite to APT's source list.  This means that some users
> > may install backported packages without realising it.  The Debian Backports
> > package states "Backports cannot be tested as extensively as Debian stable, 
> > and
> > backports are provided on an as-is basis, with risk of incompatibilities 
> > with
> > other components in Debian stable. Use with care!".  Therefore, it is
> > controversial whether using and enabling Backports is appropriate for an 
> > image
> > that we call "Stable", and we wondered if something could be changed on 
> > APT's
> > side to prevent unintentional installation of backports.
[...]
> Charles, great summary! I'm now wondering if cloud-init might be a candidate
> for "stable-updates"?

My impression was that Charles was talking about packages that
are /installed by/ cloud-init, not the install of cloud-init itself.

Regards,

Adam

8.4 and 7.10 planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

We're due both Jessie and Wheezy point releases, and are proposing doing
both on the same weekend again, as we did for 8.2 and 7.9, as the CD
team seem happy to try it again.

Some suggested dates:

March 12th / 13th
March 19th / 20th
March 26th / 27th - Easter, holiday weekend in at least the UK
April 2nd / 3rd

Regards,

Adam

Re: Bug#808874: debian-installer: FTBFS on i386: 586 vs. 686

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Fri, 2015-12-25 at 18:55 +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Ben Hutchings  (2015-12-24):
> > On Thu, 2015-12-24 at 03:30 +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > > Ben Hutchings  (2015-12-24):
> > > > I already updated base-installer for this, and I think the only other
> > > > change needed was in build/config/i386.cfg.  I've pushed a change to
> > > > that.
> > > 
> > > Checking my notes, it appears the following bits were involved last time:
> > > base-installer, debian-installer, debian-cd, installation guide.
> > > 
> > > The first two seem covered now, thanks.
> > > 
> > > Adding debian-cd@ for the third (sorry, didn't do any research for this
> > > one).
> > 
> > I opened bug #808958 with a patch.
> > 
> > > The last one seems to have been dealt with in r69410, r69411, r69412
> > > last time; something similar might do the trick this time.
> > 
> > Updated in r70113, r70114.
> 
> Perfect, thanks!

It looks like the 20160101 upload included relevant changes, and built
happily on i386. Is there anything remaining to fix?

Regards,

Adam

Re: 8.4 and 7.10 planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

-boot?

On 2016-02-21 12:24, Adam D. Barratt wrote:

Hi,

We're due both Jessie and Wheezy point releases, and are proposing 
doing

both on the same weekend again, as we did for 8.2 and 7.9, as the CD
team seem happy to try it again.

Some suggested dates:

March 12th / 13th
March 19th / 20th
March 26th / 27th - Easter, holiday weekend in at least the UK
April 2nd / 3rd

Upcoming stable point release (8.4)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next point release for "jessie" (8.4) is scheduled for Saturday,
April 2nd. Processing of new uploads into jessie-proposed-updates
will be frozen during the preceding weekend.

Regards,

Adam

Upcoming oldstable point release (7.10)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next point release for "wheezy" (7.10) is scheduled for Saturday,
April 2nd. Processing of new uploads into wheezy-proposed-updates will
be frozen during the preceding weekend.

Regards,

Adam

Re: 8.4 and 7.10 planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Sun, 2016-02-21 at 13:07 +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Sun, 2016-02-21 at 12:24 +0000, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > We're due both Jessie and Wheezy point releases, and are proposing doing
> > both on the same weekend again, as we did for 8.2 and 7.9, as the CD
> > team seem happy to try it again.
> > 
> > Some suggested dates:
> > 
> > March 12th / 13th
> > March 19th / 20th
> > March 26th / 27th - Easter, holiday weekend in at least the UK
> > April 2nd / 3rd
> 
> I was planning stable updates for the kernel but haven't uploaded to
> either suite yet, so I would prefer one of the later dates.  But of
> course this can slip to the next point release.

As discussed in another thread, those got uploaded now.

However, given other replies and the fact that plumping for the 19th
would mean freezing stable-new this coming weekend, I'm planning on
picking April 2nd unless anyone's availability has changed.

Regards,

Adam

8.6 planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

It's time for another Jessie point release; as wheezy's EOL, we don't
have to worry about trying to fit two in at the same time. Some possible
dates:

August 20th/21st - doesn't work for me

August 27th/28th - public holiday weekend in the UK; doesn't work for me

September 3rd/4th 

September 10th/11th

September 17th/18th

Regards,

Adam

Upcoming stable point release (8.6)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next point release for "jessie" (8.6) is scheduled for Saturday,
September 17th. Processing of new uploads into jessie-proposed-updates
will be frozen during the preceding weekend.

Regards,

Adam

Re: 8.6 planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

Sorry for not picking this up again sooner.

On Wed, 2016-08-17 at 14:19 +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> On Sun, 2016-08-07 at 23:04 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> > It's time for another Jessie point release; as wheezy's EOL, we don't
> > have to worry about trying to fit two in at the same time. Some
> > possible dates:
[...]
> > September 10th/11th
> > 
> > September 17th/18th
> 
> These should be okay for me.

We seem to have converged on these two. The 10th is doable, but means
freezing over the coming weekend and I'm not sure how much time I'll
have between now and then, so I'm tempted to opt for the 17th and get
the announcement out ASAP.

Last minute comments, thoughts, confirmations, etc. welcome.

Regards,

Adam

Re: 8.7 planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Mon, 2016-12-19 at 14:19 +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
> Jan 7th/8th
> 
> Jan 14th/15th

Both look okay.

> Jan 21st/22nd

I could do the Saturday until around lunchtime but will be AFK after
that and unlikely to be around on Sunday morning at least. (So on the
whole, NACK.)

> Jan 28th/29th - Cambridge BSP, probably not ideal

Unlikely to work, for that reason.

> Feb 4th/5th - FOSDEM, probably not great either
> 
> Feb 11th/12th

Both like fine for me.

Regards,

Adam

Upcoming stable point release (8.7)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next point release for "jessie" (8.7) is scheduled for Saturday,
January 14th. Processing of new uploads into jessie-proposed-updates
will be frozen during the preceding weekend.

Regards,

Adam

Re: 8.8 planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:00 +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
> It's time to start thinking about our next stable point release.  Here
> are some dates, please let us know which ones would work.
> 
> * April 8-9
> * April 15-16
> * April 22-23
> * April 29-30
> * May 6-7
> 
> I know at least Adam can't do 15-16 so that one is most likely out anyway.

For completeness, any of the other dates currently work for me.

Cheers,

Adam

Upcoming stable point release (8.8)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next point release for "jessie" (8.8) is scheduled for Saturday, May
6th. Processing of new uploads into jessie-proposed-updates will be
frozen during the preceding weekend.

Regards,

Adam

Re: 8.8 planning

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:00 +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
> It's time to start thinking about our next stable point release.  Here
> are some dates, please let us know which ones would work.
> 
> * April 8-9
> * April 15-16
> * April 22-23
> * April 29-30
> * May 6-7
> 
> I know at least Adam can't do 15-16 so that one is most likely out anyway.

Based on the responses received, the preferred dates appear to be April
22nd and May 6th, closely followed by April 29th. I have a slight
preference against the 22nd, so suggest that we plump for May 6th.

If no-one yells soon against the idea, I'll get that announced in the
next day or two.

Cheers,

Adam

Upcoming oldstable point release (8.9)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The next point release for "jessie" (8.9) is scheduled for Saturday,
July 22nd. Processing of new uploads into jessie-proposed-updates will
be frozen during the preceding weekend.

Regards,

Adam

Upcoming stable point release (9.1)

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

The first point release for "stretch" (9.1) is scheduled for Saturday,
July 22nd. Processing of new uploads into stretch-proposed-updates will
be frozen during the preceding weekend.

Regards,

Adam

Re: Scheduling 9.1, maybe 8.9

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Sat, 2017-07-08 at 00:51 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 02, 2017 at 09:53:13PM +0100, Adam Barratt wrote:
> >[sorry for the delay in replying]
> >
> >On Sun, 2017-06-25 at 20:10 +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> A month or so from 9.0 bring us to about 15th July. How would any of these
> >> suit? Is 8.9 at the same time feasible?
> >
> >It's worked before.
> >
> >> 8/9 July (probably a bit soon)
> >
> >Definitely now too soon, and didn't really work for me anyway.
> >
> >> 15/16 July
> >> 22/23 July
> >> 
> >> [SRMs: needs one of you too please :) ]
> >
> >One of those should work for me. Working out which is currently blocking
> >on other people. :|
> 
> Can we get a decision please? Summer weekends are busy...

Yes, sorry. :-( So are Summer weekdays it would appear.

Based on the other responses received, it looks like the only logical
answer is the 22nd, closing {o,}pu-new next weekend.

Regards,

Adam

Re: Scheduling 9.1, maybe 8.9

[Adam D. Barratt]

[sorry for the delay in replying]

On Sun, 2017-06-25 at 20:10 +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> A month or so from 9.0 bring us to about 15th July. How would any of these
> suit? Is 8.9 at the same time feasible?

It's worked before.

> 8/9 July (probably a bit soon)

Definitely now too soon, and didn't really work for me anyway.

> 15/16 July
> 22/23 July
> 
> [SRMs: needs one of you too please :) ]

One of those should work for me. Working out which is currently blocking
on other people. :|

Cheers,

Adam

Re: Scheduling 9.2

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Sun, 2017-09-17 at 15:31 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 03:20:05PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 09:31:22PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > > On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 04:48:14PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > I'm working on dates for 9.2; by a two month cycle we're aiming
> > > > for around
> > > > 23rd September. How about one of:
> > > > 
> > > > 23rd/24th September
> > > > 30th Septmber/1st October
> > > 
> > > I'm out in San Francisco for the week ib between them. I can't do
> > > the
> > > first weekend, but might be able to do the second while
> > > jetlagged. Another weekend would be preferred, though
> > 
> > Ok, does 7th October work any better?  I'm keen not to get too far
> > adrift
> > from the interval though.
> 
> Works fine for me, yep.

That currently looks okay for me too.

If we're going for that weekend then it would be good to be able to
announce as soon as feasible, as it would mean freezing p-u in two
weekends time.

I note that we're still missing at least an ftp-master response, and it
would be worth confirming that publicity are happy (as I'm not sure if
Laura's response only covers the initial suggested dates).

Regards,

Adam

Re: Scheduling 9.2

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Sun, 2017-08-27 at 16:48 +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> I'm working on dates for 9.2; by a two month cycle we're aiming for
> around 23rd September. How about one of:
> 
> 23rd/24th September
> 30th Septmber/1st October
> 
> [SRMs: needs one of you too please :) ]

I'd prefer to avoid the 23rd/24th if we can (and I assume we will be
anyway, given Steve's response).

The second weekend looks like it should work for me, as currently do
any others during October.

Adam