Re: Bug#535645: Wrongfull removal of ia32-libs-tools

2009-08-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 07:33:19PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I would add a suggestion to the resolution that the CTTE invites the ftp-masters to share their reasons with the package maintainer, but otherwise the draft above looks OK. Ok.

Re: Bug#510415: tech-ctte: Qmail inclusion (or not) in Debian

2009-08-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 08:05:50PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: b. There are lots of issues why qmail doesn't look too competitive, like the static user ids, I don't see any other mention of static user ids in this discussion. Can you explain what the problem is there? Are these static IDs

Re: Bug#510415: tech-ctte: Qmail inclusion (or not) in Debian

2009-08-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 06:46:31AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: We have experimental, though there is nothing in effect that prevents a maintainer to upload experimental packages to unstable atm... Packages only in experimental are ignored by Release and Security, so that would address part

Re: Bug#510415: tech-ctte: Qmail inclusion (or not) in Debian

2009-08-23 Thread Andreas Barth
* Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org) [090823 11:32]: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 08:05:50PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: b. There are lots of issues why qmail doesn't look too competitive, like the static user ids, I don't see any other mention of static user ids in this discussion. Can you

Bug#510415: tech-ctte: Qmail inclusion (or not) in Debian

2009-08-23 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 02:32:36AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 08:05:50PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: ignorance of rfc 3464 This is one that I would like to see more discussion about; I've definitely found qmail's non-standard DSNs irksome, looking like

Re: Bug#535645: Wrongfull removal of ia32-libs-tools

2009-08-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: I suggest the following resolution as a ballot option: [...] Thoughts on this? I think this is a more complete option that what I had proposed; I'd like to see it replace my proposed option, unless someone else feels that the more limited option is

Bug#510415: Call for votes on Bug#510415: tech-ctte: Qmail inclusion (or not) in Debian

2009-08-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: I am concerned that this has gone to a vote without any actual answers to the questions posed in 20090812062208.gf9...@rzlab.ucr.edu. I interpreted Andi's response as one answer, and the lack of any additional messages as an indication that there

Bug#510415: tech-ctte: Qmail inclusion (or not) in Debian

2009-08-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 02:22:32AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Certainly, I see a number of issues on http://home.pages.de/~mandree/qmail-bugs.html that I would not like to see in any package in the archive, not just the delayed-reject bug, and I would like to know from Gerrit which of the

Re: Bug#510415: tech-ctte: Qmail inclusion (or not) in Debian

2009-08-23 Thread Sam Hartman
Steve == Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes: Steve Qmail does not value the contents of a bounce Steve message. Dan documents this in a subordinate clause of his Steve qmail reliability FAQ. That means: if your qmail is Steve bouncing mail and at the same time, your system

Re: Bug#510415: tech-ctte: Qmail inclusion (or not) in Debian

2009-08-23 Thread Sam Hartman
Sam == Sam Hartman hartm...@debian.org writes: Steve == Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes: Steve Qmail does not value the contents of a bounce message. Dan Steve documents this in a subordinate clause of his qmail Steve reliability FAQ. That means: if your qmail is bouncing