On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 12:26:14 -0700 Russ Allbery wrote:
> So, this is also the last call for anyone to explain what harmful effect
> this could have if they think it would have a harmful effect. My
> understanding is that all of the possible harmful effects have been fixed
> by various other chang
On Sat, 1 Nov 2014 18:55:32 + Ian Jackson
wrote:
> Rationale (Constitution 6.1(5)):
>
> 1. Currently libpam-systemd (which is pulled in by quite a few
>dependency chains) Depends on `systemd-sysv | systemd-shim'.
Here, you give the simplified dependency without the version constraint,
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Ian Jackson writes:
> Rationale (Constitution 6.1(5)):
> 1. Currently libpam-systemd (which is pulled in by quite a few
>dependency chains) Depends on `systemd-sysv | systemd-shim'.
> 2. The effect of this is that installing certain leaf packages which
>depend on libpam-systemd can caus
Ian Jackson writes:
> If you would support something like B but only if it had some changes
> to wording, please let me know ASAP.
> = text in version B only =
> 2. We are currently sceptical about the idea that existing Debian
>GNU/Linux systems should be automatically switched to
Here is my draft, just committed to git. I'm open to suggestions for
changes. If we can't agree on the rationale I guess we could leave it
out.
Ian.
Rationale (Constitution 6.1(5)):
1. Currently libpam-systemd (which is pulled in by quite a few
dependency chains) Depends on `systemd-sysv
Here are two texts as I promised. The first one (A) is just what Russ
and others said they would support.
The second, (B), is a longer text which invites technical proposals
for non-auto-changing but explicitly avoids interfering with the GR.
If we can get a majority for something like B I think
On Sat, Nov 01, 2014 at 01:46:48AM +, Wookey wrote:
> To me that sounds like this method is actually the
> current de-facto default in Debian - it is certainly at least on a par.
I don't think that a feature being de-facto default is a good argument
to force maintaining it forever. There clea
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