Bug#741573: #741573: Menu Policy and Consensus

2015-07-20 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 09:39:50PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 08:05:56AM +, Sam Hartman a écrit : Bill, in his role of policy editor said that he believed there was not a consensus. Hi Sam, I think that what you wrote does not reflect what happened:

Bug#741573: Russ's role

2015-07-20 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 10:34:47AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: You said: I think that what you wrote does not reflect what happened: Charles - Russ gave me the green light for committing the changes, see Charleshttps://lists.debian.org/debian-policy/2014/02/msg00068.html. Only

Tentative Scheduling for next CTTE meeting

2015-07-20 Thread Don Armstrong
Based on Steve's updated voting, the time for the next meeting has moved back to 19:00 UTC from 17:00 UTC on Wednesday the 29th. If your current schedule conflicts do not reflect what you've written in meeting_poll/run_vote.sh, please update them. I will finalize the meeting time for next week's

Bug#741573: #741573: Menu Policy and Consensus

2015-07-20 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 03:06:27AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Wasting people's hard work, and then using a lack of reply to an extra round of nitpicking as an excuse for having wasted the whole lot? The only hard work here is maintaining the menu system for ten years. Cheers, -- Bill.

Bug#741573: #741573: Menu Policy and Consensus

2015-07-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Bill Allombert ballo...@debian.org writes: On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 09:39:50PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: I think that what you wrote does not reflect what happened: - Russ gave me the green light for committing the changes, see

Bug#741573: #741573: Menu Policy and Consensus

2015-07-20 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 09:50:21PM +0200, Sune Vuorela wrote: The debian menu is de facto dead; it is time to put it out of its misery. This kind of language while customary of Sune and Josselin is inappropriate and rude to any people that have investigated significant time in maintaining menu.

Bug#741573: #741573: Menu Policy and Consensus

2015-07-20 Thread Sune Vuorela
On Monday 20 July 2015 17:14:03 Josselin Mouette wrote: Bill used his position as a policy editor to reject a change, not because it was against consensus or against the policy process, but because it was against his own opinion. Not as policy editor, but as menu maintainer. This is the