Bug#636783: Bug#795857: Bug#795855: Bug#636783: Bug#795855: #636783 - New bugs for individual issues

2015-08-19 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Bdale" == Bdale Garbee writes: Bdale> Sam Hartman writes: >> I'm just sying having seen it used once I'd rather decide never >> to go there again. Bdale> For what it's worth, I agree. I'll note that for this to be fair we need to be able to push back on two different kin

Bug#795857: Bug#795855: Bug#636783: Bug#795855: #636783 - New bugs for individual issues

2015-08-19 Thread Bdale Garbee
Sam Hartman writes: > I'm just sying having seen it used once I'd rather decide never to go > there again. For what it's worth, I agree. Even in the worst of times, I'm personally just fine with extreme boundary conditions being left to human sensibility. We have a pretty effective set of ch

Bug#741573: Proposed draft of ballot to resolve menu/desktop question

2015-08-19 Thread Sune Vuorela
On Wednesday 19 August 2015 10:57:43 Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Don" == Don Armstrong writes: > >> While we're not overturning anything in the sense of an override > >> here, I think we owe an explanation for our actions, and I feel > >> really strongly about that. > > Don> Ideal

Bug#795855: Bug#636783: Bug#795855: #636783 - New bugs for individual issues

2015-08-19 Thread Sam Hartman
I think that calling for a vote and knowingly dropping options from a ballot actually harms the TC process. It is a strategic technique that I think can change the outcome of the process. I think that strategy does more harm than good and I'd like to forbid it. However, I think that I trust the mem

Bug#741573: Proposed draft of ballot to resolve menu/desktop question

2015-08-19 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Don" == Don Armstrong writes: >> While we're not overturning anything in the sense of an override >> here, I think we owe an explanation for our actions, and I feel >> really strongly about that. Don> Ideally the patch and its rationale should stand alone without Don>

Bug#636783: Bug#795855: #636783 - New bugs for individual issues

2015-08-19 Thread Josh Triplett
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 08:23:44PM +0200, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:12:08AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:39:06 +0200 Didier 'OdyX' Raboud > > wrote: > > > - #795855 > > > Introduction of formal cloture vote for the TC > > > > - #795857 > > >