Bug#975075: tech-ctte: Should maintainers be able to block init compatibility changes?

2020-12-27 Thread Bdale Garbee
Russ Allbery writes: > I assumed that if option B won, some > maintainers would drop init scripts, and therefore if folks wanted to > maintain a set of working init scripts, they'd need to look at different > options than ensuring they were incorporated into each package. I agree, this was my se

Bug#975075: tech-ctte: Should maintainers be able to block init compatibility changes?

2020-12-27 Thread Russ Allbery
gregor herrmann writes: > What surprises me in this discussion: My very broad summary of the GR > result was "systemd is the top priority, other init systems are > supported on a best-effort basis", and now I'm reading statements which > sound to me like "looking into new/future/niche init system

Bug#975075: tech-ctte: Should maintainers be able to block init compatibility changes?

2020-12-27 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sun, 27 Dec 2020 15:39:47 -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > On Sun 27 Dec 2020 at 07:26PM +02, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > My reasoning is that init scripts are the end goal, and that elogind is > > just a symptom of that end goal, and that therefore talking about > > elogind in isolation serves no p

Bug#975075: tech-ctte: Should maintainers be able to block init compatibility changes?

2020-12-27 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello Wouter, On Sun 27 Dec 2020 at 07:26PM +02, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > My reasoning is that init scripts are the end goal, and that elogind is > just a symptom of that end goal, and that therefore talking about > elogind in isolation serves no purpose. The GR specifically mentions elogind and

Bug#975075: tech-ctte: Should maintainers be able to block init compatibility changes?

2020-12-27 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi Sam, On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 10:05:37AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Wouter" == Wouter Verhelst writes: > Wouter> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:28:55AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > >> I think that we should either decide that > >> > >> 1) NetworkManager should support elogind > >> > >> or

Bug#975075: tech-ctte: Should maintainers be able to block init compatibility changes?

2020-12-27 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Wouter" == Wouter Verhelst writes: Wouter> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:28:55AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: >> I think that we should either decide that >> >> 1) NetworkManager should support elogind >> >> or >> >> 2) That we haven't seen enough development o