> Here, the situation here is more complicated. There was a private
> communication with the committee, but such side conversations are
> unfair: How can Matthew ever feel that justice was served? I would
> personally not feel closure unless I saw all such communications and
> had an opportunity to
On Tue, 2021-01-26 at 13:17 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> We can (and should, IMO) declare *today* that for bookworm, shipping
> files in / (as opposed to /usr) that are not compatibility symlinks
> will be RC.
I fear we are drifting away from just deciding to move to merged-/usr
to implementati
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 at 12:17:37 -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst dijo [Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 01:17:38PM +0200]:
> > We can (and should, IMO) declare *today* that for bookworm, shipping
> > files in / (as opposed to /usr) that are not compatibility symlinks will
> > be RC.
>
> I agree wit
Hi,
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 3:45 AM Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>
> You can start writing a lintian check today
Here is a Lintian check that follows Ansgar's specification in the
second d-d thead. Of course, it will not be merged until the project
works out a suitable consensus on this controversial
Wouter Verhelst dijo [Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 01:17:38PM +0200]:
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 12:28:45AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > Also, as is has been discussed, if the /usr/doc/ transition was
> > representative then this would probably take many years.
>
> You keep using that as an argument. I
Hi,
Simon McVittie writes:
> Should we be more specific than this in what we vote on, to avoid
> later having to adjudicate between developers who say that a particular
> implementation is or isn't merged-usr?
>
> Some developers seem to be using "merged /usr" to refer to multiple
> concrete layou
On Tue, 2021-01-26 at 13:17 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 12:28:45AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > Also, as is has been discussed, if the /usr/doc/ transition was
> > representative then this would probably take many years.
>
> You keep using that as an argument. I thin
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 12:28:45AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> Also, as is has been discussed, if the /usr/doc/ transition was
> representative then this would probably take many years.
You keep using that as an argument. I think it's very disinginuous to
point to a problem Debian had over 20 ye
Adam Borowski writes:
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 11:45:55AM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
>> Dear Technical Committee members,
>>
>> I call for votes on the following ballot to resolve #978636. The voting
>> period starts immediately and lasts for up to one week, or until the
>> outcome is no longe
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 at 11:27:07 +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
> Before unpacking those packages, both /bin and /lib symlinks must
> already exist, because it's past the cutoff date of non-aliased support.
I would like that to become true, but the cutoff date of non-aliased
support has not yet happen
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 09:56:46AM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> Oh, I see. So when you say "both" in 1a, you're referring to the overall
> system - like the fact that we have both /bin/bash and /usr/bin/perl.
Yes.
> I don't see how we can force all packages to only ship files in /usr/*
> (your
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 21:22:29 +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 11:46:35 -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
> > > The Technical Committee resolves that Debian 'bookworm' should support
> > > only the merged-usr root filesystem layout, dropping support for the
> > > non-merged-usr layo
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 at 10:30:34 +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 09:01:12AM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 at 08:02:06 +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
> > > Aren't there two sub-solutions?
> > >
> > > 1a. with packages shipping files both in /bin und /usr/bin
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 14:47:56 -0800, Keith Packard wrote:
> I think that and a transition plan are both key to this project. I
> recently installed Debian from scratch on my HiFive unmatched board and
> it got merged / and /usr.
That ship has already sailed: on #914897 in 2019, before Debian 10,
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 09:01:12AM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 at 08:02:06 +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 09:22:29PM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> > > Some developers seem to be using "merged /usr" to refer to multiple
> > > concrete layouts:
> > > 1
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 at 08:02:06 +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 09:22:29PM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> > Some developers seem to be using "merged /usr" to refer to multiple
> > concrete layouts:
> > 1. an arrangement where all regular files that have traditionally been
> >
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