Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

2023-05-14 Thread Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
Hi, Quoting Steve McIntyre (2023-05-15 02:54:02) > On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 12:24:15AM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote: > >On Sun, 14 May 2023 at 22:37, Josh Triplett wrote: > > > >> The x86-64 ABI is set. Feel free to make the case to the next > >> architecture designer that their new ABI should have

Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

2023-05-14 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 02:26, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Luca Boccassi writes: > > > That's self-evidently not true, as there are other distributions where > > that already happens, it's been already mentioned. > > You've mentioned this a couple of times but I don't think I've seen the > message

Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

2023-05-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Luca Boccassi writes: > That's self-evidently not true, as there are other distributions where > that already happens, it's been already mentioned. You've mentioned this a couple of times but I don't think I've seen the message where the details were explained. Maybe this was only in your

Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

2023-05-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
I'm *trying* to assume good faith here, but I'm running out of energy to do so. On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 01:42:27AM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote: >On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 01:14, Russ Allbery wrote: > >> Incidentally, that remains true even if we only do that in distribution >> packages. I certainly

Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

2023-05-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 12:24:15AM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote: >On Sun, 14 May 2023 at 22:37, Josh Triplett wrote: > >> The x86-64 ABI is set. Feel free to make the case to the next >> architecture designer that their new ABI should have the dynamic linker >> in `/usr/lib`. That would *not* have

Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

2023-05-14 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 01:14, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Luca Boccassi writes: > > > Why would "software compiled on Debian" fail to work in other > > environments? Well, there are many reasons actually, people invented > > containers/flatpaks/snaps exactly for that reason. But nothing do with > >

Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

2023-05-14 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 01:07, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 12:24:15AM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote: > > On Sun, 14 May 2023 at 22:37, Josh Triplett wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 01:11:38PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote: > > > > The loader is still available via the

Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

2023-05-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Luca Boccassi writes: > Why would "software compiled on Debian" fail to work in other > environments? Well, there are many reasons actually, people invented > containers/flatpaks/snaps exactly for that reason. But nothing do with > anything discussed here though, as far as I can tell? My

Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

2023-05-14 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 12:24:15AM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote: > On Sun, 14 May 2023 at 22:37, Josh Triplett wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 01:11:38PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote: > > > The loader is still available via the old path, so external/third > > > party/local/other software works

Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

2023-05-14 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Sun, 14 May 2023 at 22:37, Josh Triplett wrote: > > On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 01:11:38PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote: > > The loader is still available via the old path, so external/third > > party/local/other software works unchanged. This should negatively > > only affect our 1st party

Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

2023-05-14 Thread Josh Triplett
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 01:11:38PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote: > The loader is still available via the old path, so external/third > party/local/other software works unchanged. This should negatively > only affect our 1st party packages, when running on a non-merged > distro. > And are _all_ our