Bug#765803: Status of prompting / notification on upgrade for init system switch?

2014-10-22 Thread Martin Pitt
rse there are still a lot of bug reports *in* -shim, i. e. which hit when you run with sysvinit or upstart. But that's the opposite case of what you were concerned about, right? Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Deb

Bug#765803: Status of prompting / notification on upgrade for init system switch?

2014-10-20 Thread Martin Pitt
for a fair while in Ubuntu (even in our 14.04 LTS) without too many problems. So my feeling is that we can certainly stabilize -shim by the jessie release. (We need to do that anyway, as we need to support sysvinit regardless of what we do on upgrades/new installs.) Thanks, Martin -- Marti

Bug#727708: Bits from linux.conf.au

2014-01-16 Thread Martin Pitt
that. In that sense we already support classic sysvinit and startpar, but they don't use different startup scripts in packages. > If your real point is "pick systemd *or* upstart and don't try to > assert that we should support both", I can easily agree with that. That

Bug#727708: Bits from linux.conf.au

2014-01-15 Thread Martin Pitt
t as long as we have non-Linux ports. So this is already 2, and that at least still has some technical justification. But having more than $DEFAULT and sysv just boils down to "we can't make a decision". Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.

Bug#727708: Bits from linux.conf.au

2014-01-15 Thread Martin Pitt
oughly equivalent in terms of what a desktop environment needs from it). polkit is a different beast and is *not* deprecated; it has been switched over to use logind for checking "is that process on an active foreground console", which it previously used ConsoleKit for. Martin

Bug#727708: Bits from linux.conf.au

2014-01-15 Thread Martin Pitt
ter to continously test startup scripts for thousands of packages. So "I would expect the community for that init system to do the work" is not a plan; it's a vague hope at best and not realistic at all in my opinion. Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piwa