Re: Bug#887557: www.debian.org: tech-ctte membership updates

2018-03-27 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 at 01:47:03 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> >  
> > - > domain="organization">chairman
> > + > domain="organization">chair
> 
> Can't we use neutral term "chairperson" as a tag even though we will
> never see it.

If you're going to rename the tag (and risk breaking something else
that might be relying on it), then I think it would make more sense to
match the content (and the term in the constitution) and use
. Renaming it, but to a different gender-neutral term,
seems like the worst of both worlds to me.

smcv



Re: Bug#887557: www.debian.org: tech-ctte membership updates

2018-03-27 Thread Niko Tyni
On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 01:47:03AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 06:22:00PM +0300, Niko Tyni wrote:

> > -Didier Raboud
> > +Didier Raboud
> >  Philip Hands
> >  Tollef Fog Heen
> > -Margarita Manterola
> > +Margarita Manterola
> 
> Can't we use neutral term "chairperson" as a tag even though we will
> never see it.

I'm all for that, but in this bug I'm trying to bring the actual web
content up to date (including but not limited to the above changes.)

Tag changes are IMO a separate matter. Could you please file another
bug about that?  

I assume there are translations somewhere that will need updating if
the tag name changes.
-- 
Niko Tyni   nt...@debian.org



Re: Bug#887557: www.debian.org: tech-ctte membership updates

2018-03-27 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

I am not too keen to be a EEOE person to be a language police.  (Well I
don't live in such a nice country which used to championed it.)  But ...

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 06:22:00PM +0300, Niko Tyni wrote:
...
> Index: english/intro/organization.data
> ===
> RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/intro/organization.data,v
> retrieving revision 1.574
> diff -u -r1.574 organization.data
> --- english/intro/organization.data   20 Mar 2018 05:49:08 -  1.574
> +++ english/intro/organization.data   26 Mar 2018 15:20:57 -
> @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@
>   domain="organization">wizard
>  # we only use the chairman tag once, for techctte, I wonder why it's here.
>  
> - domain="organization">chairman
> + domain="organization">chair
>  # assistant tag added for DPL "second in command"
>  
>   domain="organization">assistant
> @@ -71,10 +71,10 @@
> 1498053993.4017640.1016684592.748e3...@webmail.messagingengine.com>
> 1514922200.4161380.1222079088.19895...@webmail.messagingengine.com>
> 1521224077.296447.1305789200.53c43...@webmail.messagingengine.com>
> -Didier Raboud
> +Didier Raboud
>  Philip Hands
>  Tollef Fog Heen
> -Margarita Manterola
> +Margarita Manterola
>  David Bremner
>  Niko Tyni
>  Gunnar Wolf

Can't we use neutral term "chairperson" as a tag even though we will
never see it.

Osamu