Re: Referring bug #166718 and the initial groups issue to the TC

2004-04-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:15:00 -0500 (EST), Sam Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The problem is fairly simple. Some of our users actually want to use their systems once they get it installed. Particularly, they'd like to be able to do things like play sound, access their floppy drives and

policies for access to local resources

2004-04-01 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:15:00 -0500 (EST), Sam Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The proposal in bug #166718 and the bugs merged with it is for the initial user to be added to some set of groups. Karl does not like this proposal because it only solves the problem for the initial user. That's

Re: policies for access to local resources

2004-04-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Raul Miller wrote: However, it would probably be a good idea to give the people who have security concerns an easy way of avoiding this solution when building large sets of machines. This is largely orthogonal to the current issue, but it would be nice if d-i had a 'select machine

Re: Referring bug #166718 and the initial groups issue to the TC

2004-04-01 Thread Bdale Garbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam Hartman) writes: The problem is fairly simple. Some of our users actually want to use their systems once they get it installed. ;-) Perhaps when Debian and the FHS originally made this decision, users could be expected to simply add themselves to groups if they

Re: Referring bug #166718 and the initial groups issue to the TC

2004-04-01 Thread Sam Hartman
Manoj == Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Manoj On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:15:00 -0500 (EST), Sam Hartman Manoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Manoj It seems to me that this ought to be local policy. Can Manoj you explain to me how the proposed solutions take site Manoj

Re: Referring bug #166718 and the initial groups issue to the TC

2004-04-01 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 10:19:42PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: Agreed. Traditionally, however, Unix has not been in the practice of being easy to use. We should be careful, not hidebound. That depends. Once upon a time, security wasn't much of an issue, and ease of use for the casual user was