Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal

2012-07-23 Thread Ian Jackson
This is a bit of a dead issue now, but I wanted to come back to it: Steve Langasek writes (Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal): On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 02:48:07PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: The objection is that the issue has been raised before the

Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal

2012-07-23 Thread Philipp Kern
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 06:31:27PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: 1) Fix up 348 from Wheezy so it compiles and uses the CELT codec library [very undesirable] 2) Same as 1) but with embedded CELT (would need testing) 3) drop mumble from Wheezy If we go with 3), would the server

Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal

2012-07-23 Thread Ian Jackson
Philipp Kern writes (Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal): On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 06:31:27PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: 1) Fix up 348 from Wheezy so it compiles and uses the CELT codec library [very undesirable] 2) Same as 1) but

Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal

2012-07-23 Thread Ian Jackson
Ron writes (Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal): That point is currently still true. Every existing client has the ability to *decode* speex if speex packets arrive. The only thing removed from recent clients was the ability to encode them. This

Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal

2012-07-23 Thread Chris Knadle
On Monday, July 23, 2012 10:34:28, Ian Jackson wrote: Philipp Kern writes (Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal): On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 06:31:27PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: 1) Fix up 348 from Wheezy so it compiles and uses the CELT

Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal

2012-07-23 Thread Ian Jackson
Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal): On Monday, July 23, 2012 10:34:28, Ian Jackson wrote: Philipp Kern writes (Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal): On Sun, Jul 22, 2012

Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal

2012-07-23 Thread Ron
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 03:38:44PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: Ron writes (Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal): That point is currently still true. Every existing client has the ability to *decode* speex if speex packets arrive. The only thing

Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal

2012-07-23 Thread Chris Knadle
On Monday, July 23, 2012 13:09:05, Ian Jackson wrote: Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal): On Monday, July 23, 2012 10:34:28, Ian Jackson wrote: Philipp Kern writes (Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to

Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal

2012-07-23 Thread Chris Knadle
On Monday, July 23, 2012 04:52:29, Nicos Gollan wrote: Hi, On Monday 23 July 2012 00:31:27 Chris Knadle wrote: This means that the Opus-only client ruins the audio connection for everybody else that's connected, at least in this case. That happens because the maintainer patch

Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal

2012-07-23 Thread Chris Knadle
On Monday, July 23, 2012 13:26:57, Don Armstrong wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Chris Knadle wrote: On Monday, July 23, 2012 10:34:28, Ian Jackson wrote: Of these 2. would seem to be the best option. I agree. [...] I believe in order to actually evaluate any of these solutions,

Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal

2012-07-23 Thread Ron
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 06:09:05PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal): On Monday, July 23, 2012 10:34:28, Ian Jackson wrote: Philipp Kern writes (Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures

Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal

2012-07-23 Thread Ron
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 02:38:19PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: On Monday, July 23, 2012 13:16:55, Ron wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 03:38:44PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: […] Maybe that is true for the gamers, but when I asked I didn't get any confirmation that this was what the problem they

Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal

2012-07-23 Thread Michael Ziegler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23.07.2012 19:16, Ron wrote: Celt on the other hand, was designed for low-latency interactive music. Fwiw, I've seen numerous people asking in #mumble how to stream music over Mumble in a way that it sounds reasonable, so it might not be *just*

Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal

2012-07-23 Thread Chris Knadle
On Monday, July 23, 2012 15:25:17, Ron wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 06:09:05PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal): On Monday, July 23, 2012 10:34:28, Ian Jackson wrote: Philipp Kern writes

Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal

2012-07-23 Thread Chris Knadle
On Monday, July 23, 2012 15:43:11, Ron wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 02:38:19PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: On Monday, July 23, 2012 13:16:55, Ron wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 03:38:44PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: […] Maybe that is true for the gamers, but when I asked I didn't get