Re: FTP masters willingly blocking OpenStack nova 2013.1 just right before the OpenStack summit

2013-04-17 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, April 17, 2013 08:49, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > You should ship them with the +x bit already. I'd rate it serious or > important, since you're breaking dpkg-statoverride. > > (I'd love for Lintian to grow a check for changing permissions of > shipped files so we could get rid of that comple

Re: FTP masters willingly blocking OpenStack nova 2013.1 just right before the OpenStack summit

2013-04-17 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Thomas Goirand (Cc-ing you, since I don't know if you're subscribed. Apologies for the extra copy if you are.) > You guys are writing this as if it was impossible to switch from one > hypervisor to another. Yet this is simply not the case. You can easily > switch from one type of hypervisor

Re: FTP masters willingly blocking OpenStack nova 2013.1 just right before the OpenStack summit

2013-04-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Thomas Goirand writes: > On 04/17/2013 02:49 PM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >> I think it does: I might be interested in running less trusted code in >> KVM, since it provides more isolation, and more trusted code in lxc, >> which provides less isolation, so running both lxc and kvm at the same >> ti

Re: FTP masters willingly blocking OpenStack nova 2013.1 just right before the OpenStack summit

2013-04-17 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/17/2013 02:49 PM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >> For testing, I would understand. But for going on production, it doesn't >> make sense to install things for more than one hypervisor in a single >> system. > > I think it does: I might be interested in running less trusted code in > KVM, since it

Re: FTP masters willingly blocking OpenStack nova 2013.1 just right before the OpenStack summit

2013-04-17 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
On 04/17/2013 01:05, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 04/16/2013 03:58 AM, Joerg Jaspert wrote: >> And we do consider a bit more here. Each and every package >> takes extra space in the various metadata places, like Packages (times >> number of architectures), our database, our various handling scripts o

Re: FTP masters willingly blocking OpenStack nova 2013.1 just right before the OpenStack summit

2013-04-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 04:28:22PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Thomas Goirand writes: > > On 04/16/2013 03:58 AM, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > >> The second part is something for a important bugreport > >> - why do you presume to tell me I might not want qemu and uml, or > >> qemu/kvm or whatever on on

Re: FTP masters willingly blocking OpenStack nova 2013.1 just right before the OpenStack summit

2013-04-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:47:35AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Re: FTP masters willingly blocking OpenStack > nova 2013.1 just right before the OpenStack summit"): > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 01:34:25PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > You should refer to the TC when i