Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on init systems

2014-05-06 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
Le 2014-05-06 13:06, Thomas Goirand a écrit : I believe he is unfriendly with unfriendly people, and I don't think you count as one of his friend, given the way you've interacted with him in the past. Well, Raphael is not Daniel's friend... fine. But, actually, who cares? The maintainer

Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on init systems

2014-05-06 Thread Ian Jackson
Mehdi Dogguy writes (Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on init systems): Well, Raphael is not Daniel's friend... fine. But, actually, who cares? The maintainer should go over those details and simply does his job. What raphael is trying to explain is that he failed in his

Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on init systems

2014-05-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
Thanks Ian, this is exactly what I think as well, and you expressed it a way better than I would have. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-ctte-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on init systems

2014-05-06 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: Can we stop the general commentary on Daniel Baumann's performance as maintainer ? I don't think it's helpful or relevant to the discussion about tftp-hpa and upstart. Is there still anything left to discuss on tftp-hpa/upstart or could

Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on init systems

2014-05-06 Thread Ian Jackson
Ansgar Burchardt writes (Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on init systems): Is there still anything left to discuss on tftp-hpa/upstart or could this issue be closed? The last upload restored support for upstart[1]. [1]

Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on init systems

2014-05-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: I do think there is still something for the TC to do here. As Andi writes, the TC failed to clarify that we expect people to continue to support multiple init systems. Evidently this was a mistake. On what grounds do you think it was a

Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on init systems

2014-05-06 Thread Paul Hedderly
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 09:15:48PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: Ansgar Burchardt writes (Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on init systems): Is there still anything left to discuss on tftp-hpa/upstart or could this issue be closed? The last upload restored support for

Next CTTE Meeting is date -d 'Thu May 22 17:00:00 UTC 2014' [Re: Scheduling the Next Debian CTTE Meeting]

2014-05-06 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 24 Apr 2014, Don Armstrong wrote: I don't have a problem with this myself; does anyone have a problem with date -d'Thu May 22 17:00:00 UTC 2014'? Based on the responses received, we'll hold the next CTTE meeting at date -d'Thu May 22 17:00:00 UTC 2014'? in #debian-ctte on

Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on init systems

2014-05-06 Thread Faidon Liambotis
On 05/06/14 23:15, Ian Jackson wrote: For the record, the TC expects maintainers to continue to support the multiple available init systems in Debian. That includes merging reasonable contributions, and not reverting existing support without a compelling reason. Considering: - The technical

Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on init systems

2014-05-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Faidon Liambotis parav...@debian.org writes: I haven't gotten any such bug reports, so this is still theoretical, but I think I'd simply reject anything more complicated than simply adding a debian/foo.upstart file to the tree, including adding (and maintaining) hacks or modifying existing

Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on init systems

2014-05-06 Thread Cameron Norman
El Tue, 6 de May 2014 a las 7:54 PM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org escribió: Faidon Liambotis parav...@debian.org writes: I haven't gotten any such bug reports, so this is still theoretical, but I think I'd simply reject anything more complicated than simply adding a debian/foo.upstart file

Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on init systems

2014-05-06 Thread Bdale Garbee
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: Russ Allbery writes (Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on init systems): On what grounds do you think it was a mistake? As soon as someone talked to the maintainer in question and asked them to re-add support, support was

Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on init systems

2014-05-06 Thread Bdale Garbee
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes: I can see your point that the future of upstart is possibly unclear, but my feeling is that if anyone filed a bug against a package requesting upstart support, that's sufficient indication of interest to merge upstart support patches, including this sort

Bug#746715: the foreseeable outcome of the TC vote on init systems

2014-05-06 Thread Cameron Norman
El Tue, 6 de May 2014 a las 8:41 PM, Bdale Garbee bd...@gag.com escribió: Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes: I can see your point that the future of upstart is possibly unclear, but my feeling is that if anyone filed a bug against a package requesting upstart support, that's sufficient