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Hi all,
here's my understanding of the state of our "Introduction of a formal
cloture vote procedure for the TC" discussion.
In June 2014, in answer to a proposal from Ian to introduce a minimum
discussion period in the TC, Steve, referring to a previous TC IRC
discussoin, proposed in <20140628005011.ga8...@virgil.dodds.net> to
introduce a formal cloture vote procedure for the TC, with the following
"strawman"
Le vendredi, 27 juin 2014, 17.50:11 Steve Langasek a écrit :
> - Any member of the TC may call for a cloture vote on a proposed
>ballot at any time.
> - Quorum for a cloture vote is 1/2 + 1 members.
> - A cloture vote must receive 2/3 majority in favor in order to pass.
> - Voting period for cloture is 48 hours, or until the outcome is no
>longer in doubt.
> - Ballot options proposed during the cloture vote shall be included
>on the ballot.
> - If a cloture vote fails, any TC member who voted in favor of
>cloture may not repeat the call for a period of one week following
>the first call. Other members of the TC may call for cloture during
>this time.
> - If a cloture vote fails, any ballot options that are subsequently
>proposed and not withdrawn shall be included on the ballot for the
>issue.
> - If, two weeks after the original call for cloture, there have been
>no further ballot options proposed, voting proceeds on the original
>ballot.
>
> Features:
>
> - If there is procedural consensus, we can act as quickly as we need
>to.
> - If someone tries to CFV too early, whether because of an error
>in judgement or because they're trying to cut off debate, a
>"cooldown" period applies, ensuring that a failed cloture vote
>actually leaves room for further discussion
> - However, as soon as any one person who has voted against cloture is
>satisfied with a revised ballot, they can call for cloture again
>and the vote can move forward
> - A CFV can largely not be used to prevent a minority viewpoint being
>represented on the ballot, since additional ballot options can be
>submitted during the cloture vote and are guaranteed to be
>included.
> - Voting down cloture cannot be used to prevent a question from
>coming to a vote; anyone opposed to cloture must still put in the
>effort to come up with alternative ballot options or the vote will
>still happen.
>
> Misfeatures:
>
> - A member of the TC can ensure "irrelevant" ballot options are
>included on the ballot, possibly spoiling the vote. I don't think
>this is a real issue. But then, I also fundamentally disagree with
>Bdale's characterization of the init system ballot proposals as
>"conflation"; so I consider this the lesser evil compared with the
>status quo, and think it should not be possible for any member of
>the TC to ever do again what Bdale did in that case.
This proposal was answered by Anthony in with the following alternative
strawman:
Le dimanche, 29 juin 2014, 20.35:56 Anthony Towns a écrit :
> - Any member of the TC may call for votes on a ballot at any time.
> - When calling for votes, the TC member may propose any combination
>of resolutions they believe is appropriate to be considered on the
>ballot, provided they fall under the ctte's constitutional powers.
> - When voting on the ballot, TC members may rank the proposed options
>from 1 to n in the normal manner for Debian ballots.
> - An additional "Cloture" option will be automatically added to the
>ballot.
> - The Cloture option may only be marked "Y" to approve cloture, or
>"N" to deny cloture.
> - The Cloture option is the default option for the SRP. A "Y" vote
>for cloture is treated as ranking the default option below all
>others (including unranked options). A "N" vote is treated as
>ranking the default option above all others.
> - In the event that cloture fails (ie, the default option wins the
>SRP), the TC members should discuss the reasons for the failure and
>produce a new ballot that is able to pass cloture.
>
> (SRP=Standard Resolution Procedure)
The discussion
