Hello Didier,
Thanks for providing your reasoning.
On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 01:28:20AM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
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> In other words, if the debootstrap maintainers now agree with Ian about
> toggling the "merged-/usr" default back to false, there's really no point for
> the TC to ov
Le dimanche, 2 décembre 2018, 00.23:05 h CET Andreas Henriksson a écrit :
> On Sat, Dec 01, 2018 at 07:20:57PM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > * With my TC hat on, I have formally asked the debootstrap maintainers
> > (and specifically Hideki Yamane) if they would consider a toggle of the
Hello,
On Sat, Dec 01, 2018 at 11:36:45PM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Le samedi, 1 décembre 2018, 19.29:59 h CET Marc Haber a écrit :
> > This might sound like a stupid question, what will happen when a package
> > built on a usrmerged System will be installed on a non-usrmerged system?
>
On Sat, Dec 01, 2018 at 07:20:57PM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> As a way to improve my understanding of the issue at hand, here's my current
> collection of data points regarding the "merged-/usr" question:
>
> * "merged-/usr" was enabled by default in debootstrap on June 13. 2018, some
>
Le samedi, 1 décembre 2018, 19.29:59 h CET Marc Haber a écrit :
> This might sound like a stupid question, what will happen when a package
> built on a usrmerged System will be installed on a non-usrmerged system?
FTR, I try to always assume that no question is stupid. Only answers can be.
My un
On Sat, 01 Dec 2018 at 17:18:35 +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/debian/issues/unstable/paths_vary_due_to_usrmerge_issue.html
> lists these packages.
>
> what surprises me currently, are those 3 packages which are reproducible
> in buster (even though we also var
Marc Haber writes:
> On Sat, Dec 01, 2018 at 07:20:57PM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
>> * Currently, according to my `apt-file`, 259 binaries are shipped in /bin
>> directly, accross 85 packages. (for /sbin, 597 binaries for 190 packages).
>
> This might sound like a stupid question, what w
On Sat, Dec 01, 2018 at 07:20:57PM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> * Currently, according to my `apt-file`, 259 binaries are shipped in /bin
> directly, accross 85 packages. (for /sbin, 597 binaries for 190 packages).
This might sound like a stupid question, what will happen when a package
As a way to improve my understanding of the issue at hand, here's my current
collection of data points regarding the "merged-/usr" question:
* "merged-/usr" was enabled by default in debootstrap on June 13. 2018, some
5+ months ago. Any buster rootfs setup since has the /bin → /usr/bin
symli
Hi,
Ansgar, thanks a lot for doing this!
On Sat, Dec 01, 2018 at 06:06:28PM +0100, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> So, I went through all reproducible build failures in unstable without
> notes and added notes for differences caused by building in merged-/usr
> vs non-merged-/usr packages. Together wi
Ansgar Burchardt writes:
> There were discussions about enabling this by default years ago, I
> don't think minor issues should be a reason to delay this change.
>
> Note that it has been delayed for after the stretch release as there
> were major issues back then (it was enabled by default for a s
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