Bug#971515: CTTE decision on "kubernetes: excessive vendoring (private libraries)"

2021-01-22 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
by others. Even without packaging new libraries, we could do so much better un-vendoring some of already packaged ones, even if maintainer focuses only on those that are _easy_ to un-vendor. Vendoring _everything_ is crazy, unnecessary, irrational... -- Cheers, Dmitry Smirnov GPG ke

Bug#971515: marked as done (kubernetes: excessive vendoring (private libraries))

2021-01-21 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
only the matter or maintaining Kubernetes properly... The TC's decision tells me that the effort was largely wasted because it was "too hard" to do things this way... Naturally the sloppy way is so much easier... :( -- Best wishes, Dmitry Smirnov GPG key : 4096R/52B6BBD

Bug#971515: Status as of last tech-ctte meeting

2021-01-21 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
e attitude with dependency management. But apparently nobody here considered that argument... :( -- Kind regards, Dmitry Smirnov GPG key : 4096R/52B6BBD953968D1B --- We often refuse to accept an idea merely because the way in which it has been expressed is unsympathetic to us. -- Friedric

Bug#971515: Request for security team input on kubernetes TC bug

2020-10-27 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
the same level of confidence for Kubernetes... -- Best wishes, Dmitry Smirnov GPG key : 4096R/52B6BBD953968D1B --- You have to start with the truth. The truth is the only way that we can get anywhere. Because any decision-making that is based upon lies or ignorance can't lead to a good conclusion.

Bug#971515: kubernetes: excessive vendoring (private libraries)

2020-10-22 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
cooperation is important. Cooperation should always be a default mode of operation. -- Kind regards, Dmitry Smirnov GPG key : 4096R/52B6BBD953968D1B --- Hay smells different to lovers and horses. -- Stanisław Jerzy Lec signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Bug#971515: Request for security team input on kubernetes TC bug

2020-10-22 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
s less security maintenance burden to us, but the outcome is no better. -- All the best, Dmitry Smirnov GPG key : 4096R/52B6BBD953968D1B --- No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible. -- Stanisław Jerzy Lec signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Bug#971515: kubernetes: excessive vendoring (private libraries)

2020-10-21 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
ries because he does not want to be bothered is a different problem. -- Kind regards, Dmitry Smirnov GPG key : 4096R/52B6BBD953968D1B --- In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolucionary act. -- George Orwell signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Bug#971515: kubernetes: excessive vendoring (private libraries)

2020-10-21 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
raries. This is a contradiction (oxymoron). How many releases (current + obsolete ones) one can meaningfully support? -- Best wishes, Dmitry Smirnov GPG key : 4096R/52B6BBD953968D1B --- The cure for the evils of democracy is more democracy. -- H. L. Mencken signature.asc Descr

Bug#971515: kubernetes: excessive vendoring (private libraries)

2020-10-21 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
actice that is demonstrated to be working on several packaged heavy Golang applications. If we tolerate full vendoring now, because "there is no better way" yet, then there will be no better way for sure. For now using packaged system libraries whenever possible is the best way. -- Kind rega

Bug#971515: kubernetes: excessive vendoring (private libraries)

2020-10-20 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
es are not tested on build. That is, Kubernetes is build from large number of untested vendored libraries. Individually packaged re-usable libraries are usually running their test suites on different architectures, exposing bugs with greater visibility. Another argument for using packages librar

Bug#971515: kubernetes: excessive vendoring (private libraries)

2020-09-30 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
that it could be maintained with only few (or several) private libraries at most. Current state of Kubernetes package is in violation of ftp-master's policy for inclusion of new packages to Debian. Thank you. This matter is not urgent. -- Regards, Dmitry Smirnov --- We do our friends no favors

Bug#970717: kubernetes: abuse of "embedded code copies" | hundreds of vendored libraries

2020-09-22 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
redundant libraries from "vendor". In the current state, the package is unsuitable for "stable". [1]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2020/03/msg00359.html See also: https://wiki.debian.org/EmbeddedCopies -- Best wishes, Dmitry Smirnov --- We often refuse to accept an

Bug#727708: init system decision-making concerns

2014-02-08 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
making. -- Cheers, Dmitry Smirnov GPG key : 4096R/53968D1B --- Odious ideas are not entitled to hide from criticism behind the human shield of their believers' feelings. -- Richard Stallman signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.