Bug#727708: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

2013-10-31 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 01:41:53AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: I'm surprised by this comment. Very little policy is actually encoded in upstart's C code; in fact, the only policy I can think of offhand that is is some basic stuff around filesystems, which, aside from some must-have kernel

Bug#727708: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

2013-10-30 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 06:21:27PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Well, I've said this before, but I think it's worth reiterating. Either upstart or systemd configurations are *radically better* than init scripts on basically every axis. They're more robust, more maintainable, easier for the

Bug#727708: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

2013-10-30 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 06:18:29PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: I suspect you and I have a root disagreement over the utility of exposing some of those degrees of freedom to every init script author, but if you have some more specific examples of policy that you wanted to change but couldn't,