Re: Vote! on supposedly controversial tech ctte question Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2002-07-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Bdale Garbee writes ("Re: Vote! on supposedly controversial tech ctte question Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package"): > My reason for wanting further discussion is that I'm willing to let > the maintainer have some discretion, but b

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2002-07-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Manoj Srivastava writes ("Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package"): > Here is my vote, though couched in terms biased the other way: I'm sorry you didn't like my wording. But, the discussion /was/ about whether to split the

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2002-07-19 Thread Ian Jackson
For history of this resolution, see earlier postings on the tech ctte list. The committee has voted as follows: Bdale FD, B, A Ian A, FD, B Manoj B, FD, A Wichert A, FD, B Dale no response Guy no response Jason no response Raul no respons

Re: Vote! on supposedly controversial tech ctte question Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2002-07-18 Thread Bdale Garbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Jackson) writes: > Votes (rankings) [1] so far are: >Ian A, FD, B >Wichert A, FD, B > > I was expecting Bdale and Manoj to have a different view. Manoj, > Bdale, are you going to vote ? Is anyone else on the committee paying > any attention at

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2002-07-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Here is my vote, though couched in terms biased the other way: 1BVersion B (split packages, ensure that properly installed packages actually work) 2FD Further Discussion 3AVersion A (Allow pa

Vote! on supposedly controversial tech ctte question Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2002-07-18 Thread Ian Jackson
See my call for votes last Friday: Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:40:15 +0100 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package Votes (rankings) [1] so far are: Ian A, FD, B Wichert A, FD

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2002-07-12 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Ian Jackson wrote: > See below for the full text, and my last message for my views. > (Wichert said he wanted until at least the 5th and hasn't said > anything more, so ...) So I'm here. > I hereby call for a vote on this resolution. We'll vote on the whole > lot on one ballot - effec

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2002-07-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package"): ... > I hereby call for a vote on this resolution. Just a reminder about the voting period. That CFV of mine was timestamped by lists.debian.org as: Received: from chiark.gr

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2002-07-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package"): > I therefore hereby propose the following two alternative versions of a > resolution for this issue: See below for the full text, and my last message for my views. (Wicher

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2002-07-02 Thread Ian Jackson
Anthony Towns writes ("Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package"): > For reference, I'm actually with Ian on this issue; I don't see much > point creating a new package for cardinfo and dealing with the hassle > of cardinfo di

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2002-07-01 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 07:19:59PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Version B (Anthony and Manoj, I think): For reference, I'm actually with Ian on this issue; I don't see much point creating a new package for cardinfo and dealing with the hassle of cardinfo disappearing on an apt-get dist-upgrade and

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2002-06-30 Thread Bdale Garbee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Jackson) writes: > * No-one else on the committee has said anything else of substance. I have personally been willing to tolerate the situation where a package delivers several binaries, one of which might only work if some "s

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2002-06-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Wichert Akkerman writes ("Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package"): > Previously Ian Jackson wrote: > > I therefore hereby propose the following two alternative versions of a > > resolution for this issue: > > Can we pleas

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2002-06-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Ian Jackson wrote: > I therefore hereby propose the following two alternative versions of a > resolution for this issue: Can we please wait with a vote until July 5? I'm afraid I'm currently really swamped with both work, Debian security and SPI tasks. Wichert. -- _

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2002-06-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package"): > We haven't ever been here before, but it seems to me that the best > course of action would be to formulate a resolution overruling the > pcmcia-cs maintainer's

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2002-06-23 Thread Ian Jackson
The current state of this seems to be: * Everyone agrees that it's not ideal for programs to fail in this way. There is disagreement about whether it should be always strictly forbidden in every case, or whether there are other tradeoffs etc. that might justify it. (I can't quite make out whethe

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2001-12-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Adam" == Adam Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Adam> I'm going to lend my two cents here and agree with the people who think Adam> that "Suggests" is good enough for this particular dependency. Adam> If we believe that "installation of a package must require that all Adam> functionality