Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC): On Thursday, July 19, 2012 19:07:52, Ron wrote: ... What we'd like to do in the meantime, is let the mumble version from unstable transition to testing now. That will: - Unbreak the server for everyone, which

Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-20 Thread Chris Knadle
On Friday, July 20, 2012 07:54:21, Ian Jackson wrote: Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC): On Thursday, July 19, 2012 19:07:52, Ron wrote: ... What we'd like to do in the meantime, is let the mumble version from unstable transition

Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-20 Thread Ron
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 01:47:21AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: I'm still not opposed to the plan (because I still think it's the best option discussed), but I think it might hurt a bit more than perhaps we anticipated in the very-short-term before the version of the Mumble client with the

Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-20 Thread Ron
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 08:14:48AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: On Friday, July 20, 2012 07:54:21, Ian Jackson wrote: Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC): On Thursday, July 19, 2012 19:07:52, Ron wrote: ... What we'd like to do

Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-20 Thread Chris Knadle
On Friday, July 20, 2012 08:32:01, Ron wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 08:14:48AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: On Friday, July 20, 2012 07:54:21, Ian Jackson wrote: […] How will this interact with mumble in other distros, who are presumably following mumble upstream's advice to use celt

Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-20 Thread Ron
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 08:49:54AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: On Friday, July 20, 2012 08:32:01, Ron wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 08:14:48AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: On Friday, July 20, 2012 07:54:21, Ian Jackson wrote: […] How will this interact with mumble in other distros, who

Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC): Test: Thanks. This: - I had the friend upgrade to the developer snapshot 1.2.3-361-ga2a3836 from the Mumble website and try again -- same message. So right now there is no version of the Mumble client

Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC): On Friday, July 20, 2012 01:47:21, Chris Knadle wrote: […] From this test I draw the following conclusions: […] - Once -2 of the Mumble client is migrated to Testing we will be fully committed to the plan

Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-20 Thread Chris Knadle
On Friday, July 20, 2012 10:20:28, Ian Jackson wrote: Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC): Test: Thanks. This: - I had the friend upgrade to the developer snapshot 1.2.3-361-ga2a3836 from the Mumble website and try again

Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-20 Thread Ron
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 03:25:00PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: Ron writes (Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC): Making a binary release for windows users is bottlenecked behind Thorvald too right now. The problem goes something like this: This is not relevant

Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Ron writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC): You know, this is getting really frustrating Ian. If you aren't going to actually read anything that I write, then perhaps we should find some other member of the -ctte that isn't so blinkered into arguing their *own

Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Ron writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC): What's left to stop us from moving forward with this again now? Also, please stop trying to bounce us into a decision and other people into action. The reason I am insisting on delay is because we (the TC) want to be sure

Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-20 Thread Chris Knadle
On Friday, July 20, 2012 10:21:17, Ian Jackson wrote: Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC): On Friday, July 20, 2012 01:47:21, Chris Knadle wrote: […] From this test I draw the following conclusions: […] - Once -2 of the Mumble client

Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC): On Friday, July 20, 2012 10:21:17, Ian Jackson wrote: Why won't it build ? The mumble source pacakge will not build in Wheezy on amd64 due to Wheezy getting an upgrade to gcc 4.7 in relation with zero-ice. Oh

Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-20 Thread Nicos Gollan
Hi, On Friday 20 July 2012 17:40:51 Ron wrote: The 'situation' is no longer disputed afaics. Everyone except you has agreed on the best way forward. No. There may be a solution that Thorvald/slicer supposedly came up with. If it turns out to work, super. It would make the debian-supplied

Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-19 Thread Nicos Gollan
Hi, On Thursday 19 July 2012 14:40:28 Chris Knadle wrote: ... except that Nicos Gollan stated that mumble servers have a base assumption that clients have the CELT 0.7.1 codec available. :-/ Is that correct? If a client does not report any CELT versions, the server assumes that (only)

Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the TC

2012-07-19 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, July 19, 2012 19:07:52, Ron wrote: Ok, so I've just had a long overdue catch-up with Thorvald, and we think we have a plan that really covers all the bases ... We can re-enable speex support in the client, which was only just recently dropped (so only the client currently in