Re: Next meeting -- one week early, 5th April @ 7pm UTC

[Matthew Vernon]

Hi,

On 29/03/2022 21:01, Sean Whitton wrote:

I have Covid, so am not going to be around this evening, sorry.


* DebConf22 CfP -- what sort of talk do we want to submit?


I think I have no particular feeling on this, so happy with whatever you 
decide. Sean's "meet the TC" seems a reasonable idea.



* Bug#1003653: Revision of removal of rename.ul from package util-linux


I sort of feel we should make a decision on this, it's been dragging for 
a while now (not helped, I feel, by rather limited interaction from the 
package maintainer).


I think the maintainer's position is currently that "rename.ul should be 
shipped as /usr/bin/rename in a package that would therefore have to 
conflict: with the rename package".


I'm afraid I think that's wrong, and a disservice to our users. I don't 
think "two things called /usr/bin/rename, pick one" is better than the 
previous "file-rename is /usr/bin/rename, util-linux' rename is 
/usr/bin/rename.ul".



* Bug#1007717: Native source package format with non-native version


I'm not quite sure where we are as a committee on this; I thought Ian 
Jackson's mail that Sean forwarded on early in the thread was quite 
convincing on the merits of the various source formats; but a bunch of 
more-or-less related issues have been raised by various parties, and I 
think maybe a summary would be useful?


Regards,

Matthew

Re: Next meeting -- one week early, 5th April @ 7pm UTC

[Elana Hashman]

On 2022-03-29 14:43, Matthew Vernon wrote:



Due to both the current interpersonal situation and the impeding
DebConf22 CfP, can we have our meeting a week early?  Please let me 
know

if you can't.



* DebConf22 CfP -- what sort of talk do we want to submit?


FWIW, I'm afraid I won't be at DebConf (given the situation in
Ukraine, I don't want to be committing to travel to Kosovo this year).


Due to the pandemic, I'm still not resuming cross-Atlantic travel, so I
can only attend DebConf virtually :)

- e

Re: Next meeting -- one week early, 5th April @ 7pm UTC

[Niko Tyni]

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 01:01:19PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
 
> Due to both the current interpersonal situation and the impeding
> DebConf22 CfP, can we have our meeting a week early?  Please let me know
> if you can't.

Hi, Tuesday 2022-04-05 works for me, and both 18:00 and 19:00 UTC are OK.

Generally I'd slightly prefer 18:00 UTC over 19:00 UTC but can do either.
-- 
Niko

Re: Next meeting -- one week early, 5th April @ 7pm UTC

[Gunnar Wolf]

Sean Whitton dijo [Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 01:11:01PM -0700]:
> > Due to both the current interpersonal situation and the impeding
> > DebConf22 CfP, can we have our meeting a week early?  Please let me know
> > if you can't.
> 
> I think I'm the only person who is somewhere that doesn't observe DST,
> so we should move it to 6pm UTC, right, going forward?

I already confirmed on IRC, but just to have it in the mail archive: I
cannot make it at 19:00UTC. 18:00 is much better.

Thanks!

Re: Next meeting -- one week early, 5th April @ 7pm UTC

[Sean Whitton]

Hello,

On Tue 29 Mar 2022 at 10:43PM +01, Matthew Vernon wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 29/03/2022 21:01, Sean Whitton wrote:
>
>> Due to both the current interpersonal situation and the impeding
>> DebConf22 CfP, can we have our meeting a week early?  Please let me know
>> if you can't.
>
> I'm afraid I probably can't be there until probably around 19:30 UTC
> (but I don't want to guarantee that); I can provide my input in advance,
> though.
>
>> * DebConf22 CfP -- what sort of talk do we want to submit?
>
> FWIW, I'm afraid I won't be at DebConf (given the situation in Ukraine,
> I don't want to be committing to travel to Kosovo this year).
>
> If there's anything you would like more input from me on, please ask and
> I'll do my best :)

The question is whether we want to submit a "Meet the Technical
Committee" talk or just send a Bits mail round, or some combination.  In
the past two years we did the latter so that we could use our talk time
for our reforming the TC project.  That project is almost concluded.

I am in favour of going back to the traditional talk as I think there's
some value in raising awareness of who the current faces of the TC are.

Please do share any thoughts on this you might have.

-- 
Sean Whitton


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Re: Next meeting -- one week early, 5th April @ 7pm UTC

[Sean Whitton]

Hello,

On Tue 29 Mar 2022 at 10:44PM +01, Matthew Vernon wrote:

> On 29/03/2022 21:11, Sean Whitton wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> On Tue 29 Mar 2022 at 01:01pm -07, Sean Whitton wrote:
>>
>>> Due to both the current interpersonal situation and the impeding
>>> DebConf22 CfP, can we have our meeting a week early?  Please let me know
>>> if you can't.
>>
>> I think I'm the only person who is somewhere that doesn't observe DST,
>> so we should move it to 6pm UTC, right, going forward?
>
> FWIW, I was expecting it to remain at 19:00 UTC; notwithstanding 5th
> April (when I made other arrangements not expecting a meeting), 18:00
> UTC works for me just as well.

Alright, given this expectation, how about we leave it at 7pm UTC unless
someone says that they *can't* do that time?  Please speak up if that's you!

-- 
Sean Whitton


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Re: Next meeting -- one week early, 5th April @ 7pm UTC

[Matthew Vernon]

On 29/03/2022 21:11, Sean Whitton wrote:

Hello,

On Tue 29 Mar 2022 at 01:01pm -07, Sean Whitton wrote:


Due to both the current interpersonal situation and the impeding
DebConf22 CfP, can we have our meeting a week early?  Please let me know
if you can't.


I think I'm the only person who is somewhere that doesn't observe DST,
so we should move it to 6pm UTC, right, going forward?


FWIW, I was expecting it to remain at 19:00 UTC; notwithstanding 5th 
April (when I made other arrangements not expecting a meeting), 18:00 
UTC works for me just as well.


Regards,

Matthew

Re: Next meeting -- one week early, 5th April @ 7pm UTC

[Matthew Vernon]

Hi,

On 29/03/2022 21:01, Sean Whitton wrote:


Due to both the current interpersonal situation and the impeding
DebConf22 CfP, can we have our meeting a week early?  Please let me know
if you can't.


I'm afraid I probably can't be there until probably around 19:30 UTC 
(but I don't want to guarantee that); I can provide my input in advance, 
though.



* DebConf22 CfP -- what sort of talk do we want to submit?


FWIW, I'm afraid I won't be at DebConf (given the situation in Ukraine, 
I don't want to be committing to travel to Kosovo this year).


If there's anything you would like more input from me on, please ask and 
I'll do my best :)


Regards,

Matthew

Re: Next meeting -- one week early, 5th April @ 7pm UTC

[Elana Hashman]

On 2022-03-29 13:11, Sean Whitton wrote:

Hello,

On Tue 29 Mar 2022 at 01:01pm -07, Sean Whitton wrote:


Due to both the current interpersonal situation and the impeding
DebConf22 CfP, can we have our meeting a week early?  Please let me 
know

if you can't.


I think I'm the only person who is somewhere that doesn't observe DST,
so we should move it to 6pm UTC, right, going forward?


I'm fine leaving it where it is fwiw, it's less likely to hit conflicts
at this time for me.

- e

Re: Next meeting -- one week early, 5th April @ 7pm UTC

[Sean Whitton]

Hello,

On Tue 29 Mar 2022 at 01:01pm -07, Sean Whitton wrote:

> Due to both the current interpersonal situation and the impeding
> DebConf22 CfP, can we have our meeting a week early?  Please let me know
> if you can't.

I think I'm the only person who is somewhere that doesn't observe DST,
so we should move it to 6pm UTC, right, going forward?

-- 
Sean Whitton

Next meeting -- one week early, 5th April @ 7pm UTC

[Sean Whitton]

Dear committee members,

Due to both the current interpersonal situation and the impeding
DebConf22 CfP, can we have our meeting a week early?  Please let me know
if you can't.

Agenda:

* Private Jitsi discussion of interpersonal issues

* Review of previous meeting AIs

* DebConf22 CfP -- what sort of talk do we want to submit?

* Bug#1003653: Revision of removal of rename.ul from package util-linux

* Bug#1007717: Native source package format with non-native version

  - If we have time and people are sufficiently caught up on mail.  I
suspect we will have to defer this item.

People with AIs: ehashman, spwhitton

Minutes of the previous meeting:


-- 
Sean Whitton