Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire

2016-08-26 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 26 août 2016 15:14 CEST, Ian Jackson  : > Otherwise sysvinit users (and advocates) have to have tiresome > discussions one package at a time - discussions where the maintainer > inevitably starts repeating the claims that sysvinit is obsolete and > should be

Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Triplett
On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:14:25 +0100 Ian Jackson wrote: > Sam Hartman writes ("Re: Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support > decision is not going to expire"): > > I don't want to make a blanket statement that it's a bug not to include > > an init script.

Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire

2016-08-26 Thread Josh Triplett
On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 12:55:56 +0100 Ian Jackson wrote: > So: would the TC please clarify that the decision that > > For the record, the TC expects maintainers to continue to support > the multiple available init systems in Debian. That includes >

Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire

2016-08-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Sam Hartman writes ("Re: Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire"): > [Ian Jackson:] > > I am running stretch with sysvinit on my laptop. It seems to > > work for me. I haven't conducted any kind of systematic > > survey. > > That's the rough estimate I

Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire

2016-08-26 Thread Sam Hartman
Ian, quick question for you because you might know the answer off the top of your head. Does running stretch with sysvinit as your init system work reasonably well, or at least work well enough that there are a small number of bugs we will likely be able to fix in the stretch time frame? What I

Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire

2016-08-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Sam Hartman writes ("Re: Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire"): > Ian, quick question for you because you might know the answer off the > top of your head. Does running stretch with sysvinit as your init > system work reasonably well, or at least work

Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire

2016-08-26 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Ian" == Ian Jackson writes: Ian> Sam Hartman writes ("Re: Bug#835507: Please clarify that Ian> sysvinit support decision is not going to expire"): >> Ian, quick question for you because you might know the answer off >> the top of your head.

Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire

2016-08-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: tech-ctte There has recently been a thread on debian-devel ("Is missing SysV-init support a bug?) about the decision by a package maintainer to drop sysvinit support from their package. The maintainer has said they are reconsidering, which is good. But, the discussion on -devel has

Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire

2016-08-26 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
On Fri, 2016-08-26 at 12:38 -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > "Ansgar" == Ansgar Burchardt writes: > > Ansgar> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 08:50:13 -0400 Sam Hartman wrote: > >> I think we want to reaffirm that policy section 9.3.2 and > section > Ansgar> 9.3.3 > >>

Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire

2016-08-26 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Ansgar" == Ansgar Burchardt writes: Ansgar> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 08:50:13 -0400 Sam Hartman wrote: >> I think we want to reaffirm that policy section 9.3.2 and section Ansgar> 9.3.3 >> represent current policy for init scripts, quoting particularly >>

Bug#835507: server works, some desktop functions don't

2016-08-26 Thread Adam Borowski
> quick question for you because you might know the answer off the top of > your head. Does running stretch with sysvinit as your init system work > reasonably well As for server uses, everything I know about works as good or better as with systemd (you get to avoid a number of bugs with

Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire

2016-08-26 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 08:50:13 -0400 Sam Hartman wrote: > I think we want to reaffirm that policy section 9.3.2 and section 9.3.3 > represent current policy for init scripts, quoting particularly the > following text from section 9.3.2: >  >  Packages that include daemons for system services

Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support decision is not going to expire

2016-08-26 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:14:25 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Sam Hartman writes ("Re: Bug#835507: Please clarify that sysvinit support > decision is not going to expire"): > > Ian, quick question for you because you might know the answer off the > > top of your head. Does running stretch with