Bug#350739: Clone and reassign back cdrtools bug for testing version tracking purposes

2006-07-06 Thread Don Armstrong
clone 350739 -1 reassign -1 cdrtools thanks This bug should have been cloned for the original reassignment to tech-ctte to keep it from propogating to testing. Cloning and reassigning back so that it's known which versions of cdrtools have this issue. Don Armstrong -- Taxes are not levied

Bug#350739: #350739: cdrecord status?

2006-07-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 08 Jul 2006, Joerg Schilling wrote: Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The GNU GPL only allows this when it is possible to satisfy the conditions of the GPL for the distributed work. For example, this is why it is possible to combine MIT licensed works with GPLed works

Re: Chair rotation

2006-07-10 Thread Don Armstrong
needed. Don Armstrong -- Do not handicap your children by making their lives easy. -- Robert Heinlein _Time Enough For Love_ p251 http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Bug#350739: #350739: cdrecord status?

2006-07-11 Thread Don Armstrong
expect me to respond or suddenly change my position. Don Armstrong 1: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=350739;msg=171 2: This means court cases which illustrate the point that you're trying to prove, preferably in the US, not websites that claim German law actually applies

Re: (forw) Processed: reoppening, ...

2007-06-25 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, Andreas Barth wrote: please can you prevent Sven L from opening this bug report again? I've sent a message about it; if it gets reopened again, I will exclude him from the control interface entirely. Don Armstrong -- He was wrong. Nature abhors dimensional abnormalities

Bug#367709: Processed: There is still no valid reason to close this bug.

2007-06-25 Thread Don Armstrong
of the control@ policy, and what will be done in cases of abuse. In any event, now that all parties to this bug are once again aware of the policy, I look forward to not having to address this issue again. Don Armstrong -- There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't

testing that signed mails get through (ignore)

2007-09-28 Thread Don Armstrong
Trying to make sure that I've fixed the issue with signed mails (by keys in the d.o keyring) going through to this list. Don Armstrong -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie

Re: getaddrinfo: DNS round robin vs RFC3484 s6 rule 9, for etch

2007-09-28 Thread Don Armstrong
of spam to the bts) it probably wouldn't cause more than a few pieces of spam a month, if that. Don Armstrong -- The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people

Re: testing that signed mails get through (ignore)

2007-10-01 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007, Ian Jackson wrote: Don Armstrong writes (testing that signed mails get through (ignore)): Trying to make sure that I've fixed the issue with signed mails (by keys in the d.o keyring) going through to this list. I don't know exactly what you've done but we seem

Re: TC mailing lists' configuration

2007-11-16 Thread Don Armstrong
if you were a subscriber.] Don Armstrong -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu

Re: Call for Votes (was Re: glibc's getaddrinfo() sort order)

2007-11-26 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007, Kurt Roeckx wrote: Is there still a problem with the lists? There was one earlier, but it should be working properly now. [It was always working for mesages signed with keys in the keyring.] Don Armstrong -- Democracy means simply the bludgeoning of the people

Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*

2007-11-30 Thread Don Armstrong
and making a decision. I mean, the time consuming part of investigating the problem, writing a summary, and resolving the issue has been taken care of already, so you all might as well read the summary and vote accordingly. Don Armstrong 1: And even if one was warranted, by framing a decision, Ian

Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*

2007-12-02 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 06:40:36PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: Deciding that an issue isn't important enough to make a decision requires making some sort of decision. No it doesn't, it just requires not noticing an issue -- eg, by it not being

Bug#484333: assigning to tech ctte (Re: status of this bug)

2008-06-03 Thread Don Armstrong
. The version of apt in lenny properly handles packages which have been split, with significant features only Recommended: by the unsplit packages. Don Armstrong -- The attackers hadn't simply robbed the bank. They had carried off everything portable, including the security cameras, the carpets

Bug#484333: assigning to tech ctte (Re: status of this bug)

2008-06-05 Thread Don Armstrong
by a recommendation. (2) Transitions between Depends: and Recommends: where the maintainer has correctly degreded a dependency are to be handled by release notes in the case where apt did not previously follow policy. -- Don Armstrong -- Clothes make the man. Naked people have little

Bug#484333: assigning to tech ctte (Re: status of this bug)

2008-06-06 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 06 Jun 2008, Robert Millan wrote: On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 09:25:24AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: the problem which you are describing is a general one that applies to all things which were dependencies which have been downgraded to recommends. The problem with bash-completion

Bug#510415: tech-ctte: Qmail inclusion (or not) in Debian

2009-01-05 Thread Don Armstrong
again the problems that Qmail has. Don Armstrong -- Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it. -- Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-ctte-requ...@lists.debian.org

Bug#510415: tech-ctte: Qmail inclusion (or not) in Debian

2009-01-06 Thread Don Armstrong
of the pros and cons. I agree as well; that said, if someone in Debian wants to put in the work to make Qmail have more pros than cons so those people who are going to run Qmail anyway can do so without bothering the rest of us, more power to htem. Don Armstrong -- If a nation values anything

Bug#441200: libconfig name clash

2009-01-25 Thread Don Armstrong
# it's libconfig's problem now reassign 441200 src:libconfig severity 441200 minor tag 441200 upstream thanks On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Don Armstrong wrote: If there aren't any objections,[1] lets reassign this bug back to src:libconfig while retitling and changing the severity to indicate

Re: Bug#484841: staff group root equivalence

2009-03-02 Thread Don Armstrong
able to trivially get root on that machine at any time. [And sudo at least has methods of controling and/or accounting the access.] Don Armstrong -- You have many years to live--do things you will be proud to remember when you are old. -- Shinka proverb. (John Brunner _Stand On Zanzibar_ p413

Re: Bug#484841: staff group root equivalence

2009-03-02 Thread Don Armstrong
problem is that by default root's PATH contains /usr/local/sbin and /usr/local/bin, so you have to jump through quite a few extra hoops to make the distinction between root and staff viable in the first place. Don Armstrong -- People selling drug paraphernalia ... are as much a part of drug

Re: Bug#484841: staff group root equivalence

2009-03-15 Thread Don Armstrong
the permissions from their parents, so that the local configuration will be sticky. I think something along these lines may be ideal (2775?). [The exact mechanism of implementing this isn't that important to me.] Don Armstrong -- a friend will help you move a best friend will help you move bodies

Re: Bug#484841: Call for votes (was: Bug#484841: staff group root equivalence)

2009-07-24 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Don Armstrong wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Andreas Barth wrote: I'm calling on votes now for these three options (the last one isn't a proposal, but by default in the option set). According to the consitution, the voting periode last for up to one week, or until

Bug#429671: exim4 username

2009-07-25 Thread Don Armstrong
, but without a clear standard to decide between, a vote by the ctte is premature. If no one objects, I'll reassign this bug to -policy in the next few days. Don Armstrong -- The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing

Bug#422139: init script for git-daemon (summary; possible action)

2009-07-25 Thread Don Armstrong
if there are none.] Don Armstrong -- You have many years to live--do things you will be proud to remember when you are old. -- Shinka proverb. (John Brunner _Stand On Zanzibar_ p413) http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-ctte-requ

Bug#422139: init script for git-daemon (summary; possible action)

2009-07-26 Thread Don Armstrong
reassign 422139 git-daemon severity 422139 wishlist tag 422139 wontfix help thanks On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Don Armstrong wrote: Thus, I suggest that this issue be reassigned to git-daemon, tagged with wontfix and help, and Aurélien Gérôme (or any other individual) prepare a patch, and work

Bug#429671: exim4 username

2009-07-30 Thread Don Armstrong
reassign 429671 debian-policy thanks On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Don Armstrong wrote: If -policy is unable to come up with a reasonable consensus (or wants the ctte to decide between two conflicting proposals) it can be assigned back, but without a clear standard to decide between, a vote

Bug#539158: Call for Votes on Bug#539158: […] assumes printf is a builtin

2009-07-30 Thread Don Armstrong
practices on | providing printf (and similar functions used in the initrd like [ and | test) by shells. | 2. Further discussion Voting 1 2. Don Armstrong -- An elephant: A mouse built to government specifications. -- Robert Heinlein _Time Enough For Love_ p244 http://www.donarmstrong.com

Bug#510415: tech-ctte: Qmail inclusion (or not) in Debian

2009-08-07 Thread Don Armstrong
testing. If there aren't any objections to #2, I think we should clean up the language, and put out a sample ballot and call for a vote. Don Armstrong -- Show me your flowcharts and conceal your tables, and I shall continue to be mystified. Show me your tables, and I won't usually need your

Re: Bug#510415: tech-ctte: Qmail inclusion (or not) in Debian

2009-08-13 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, Andreas Barth wrote: * Don Armstrong (d...@debian.org) [090811 23:04]: 1. Qmail is to be allowed into the archive without special preconditions. Ftpmaster should perform standard NEW processing for licensing, copyright, and general packaging issues as normal

Bug#510415: tech-ctte: Qmail inclusion (or not) in Debian

2009-08-18 Thread Don Armstrong
of calling for votes then. Don Armstrong -- This isn't life in the fast lane, it's life in the oncoming traffic -- Terry Pratchett http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-ctte-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe

Bug#535645: Bug #535645: Wrongfull removal of ia32-libs-tools

2009-08-18 Thread Don Armstrong
Received: (nullmailer pid 19093 invoked by uid 1000); Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:33:54 - Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:33:54 -0700 From: Don Armstrong d...@debian.org To: Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de, 535...@bugs.debian.org Message-ID: 20090819023354.gs9...@rzlab.ucr.edu Mail-Followup

Re: Death Threats posted to Debian Email Lists

2009-08-19 Thread Don Armstrong
, which is why it was resolved within hours of its occurance *three* years ago. Don Armstrong -- PowerPoint is symptomatic of a certain type of bureaucratic environment: one typified by interminable presentations with lots of fussy little bullet-points and flashy dissolves and soundtracks masked

Bug#510415: Call for votes on Bug#510415: tech-ctte: Qmail inclusion (or not) in Debian

2009-08-21 Thread Don Armstrong
| outlined in option #2 will take effect. | | 4. Qmail is not to be allowed into Debian. | | 5. Further discussion. Don Armstrong 1: With apologies if someone's made suggestions/objections while this is in transit. -- Quite the contrary; they *love* collateral damage. If they can make you

Bug#535645: Wrongfull removal of ia32-libs-tools

2009-08-21 Thread Don Armstrong
ftpmaster's decision to remove ia32-libs-tools. 2. Further Discussion or is there additional information which would convince the CTTE to override the ftpmasters which we feel wouldn't convince the ftpmasters to allow its inclusion? Don Armstrong 1: I've personally not heard anything

Bug#510415: Call for votes on Bug#510415: tech-ctte: Qmail inclusion (or not) in Debian

2009-08-21 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Don Armstrong wrote: I'm calling for a vote on the following options[1]: | 1. Qmail is to be allowed into the archive without special | preconditions. Ftpmaster should perform standard NEW processing for | licensing, copyright, and general packaging issues as normal

Bug#535645: Wrongfull removal of ia32-libs-tools

2009-08-22 Thread Don Armstrong
to remove ia32-libs-tools. The CTTE suggests that ftpmaster make a clear statement regarding the reasoning behind this rejection. 2. Further Discussion Don Armstrong -- If it jams, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway. -- Lowery's Law http://www.donarmstrong.com http

Re: Bug#535645: Wrongfull removal of ia32-libs-tools

2009-08-23 Thread Don Armstrong
is more ideal. (In which case, please speak up.) Don Armstrong -- Any excuse will serve a tyrant. -- Aesop http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-ctte-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Bug#510415: Call for votes on Bug#510415: tech-ctte: Qmail inclusion (or not) in Debian

2009-08-23 Thread Don Armstrong
be properly addressed. [As a process issue, is there some better way[1] to let people know that someone is starting to get close to calling for votes? Should we Cc: CTTE members directly or ping on IRC?] Don Armstrong 1: I had just assumed that sending a mail to the bug was enough, but it's

Re: Call for votes: Bug#535645: Wrongful removal of ia32-libs-tools

2009-09-02 Thread Don Armstrong
/2009/08/msg00096.html 3. Further Discussion I vote 1 2 3. Don Armstrong -- People selling drug paraphernalia ... are as much a part of drug trafficking as silencers are a part of criminal homicide. -- John Brown, DEA Chief http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu

Re: Call for votes: Bug#535645: Wrongful removal of ia32-libs-tools

2009-09-02 Thread Don Armstrong
. For example, the policy editors are currently delegated, but 6.1.1 speaks specifically to policy. In a case where we were going to override the policy editors, I think 6.1.4 and 6.1.1 should both apply, but I'm certain that 6.1.1 does. Don Armstrong -- Let us chat together a moment, my friend

Bug#548230: dropbear: configuration in /etc/package does not follow FHS

2009-09-24 Thread Don Armstrong
appearing under /etc, not executables: it must be static and cannot be an executable binary.[1] Don Armstrong 1: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#ETCHOSTSPECIFICSYSTEMCONFIGURATION 2: $ sudo find /etc -type l|wc -l 1432 -- Physics is like sex. Sure, it may give some practical results

Bug#548230: dropbear: configuration in /etc/package does not follow FHS

2009-09-29 Thread Don Armstrong
the process of coming to a decision. Don Armstrong -- A one-question geek test. If you get the joke, you're a geek: Seen on a California license plate on a VW Beetle: 'FEATURE'... -- Joshua D. Wachs - Natural Intelligence, Inc. http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu

Bug#564536: Returned mail: see transcript for details

2010-01-11 Thread Don Armstrong
of the people involved. If someone wants to clue Robert Millan in about this discussion, that may be useful. Don Armstrong -- [Panama, 1989. The U.S. government called it Operation Just Cause.] I think they misspelled this. Shouldn't it be Operation Just 'Cause? -- TekPolitik http://slashdot.org

Bug#564536: GRUB maintainer address bounces

2010-01-12 Thread Don Armstrong
will rarely bother to subscribe just to communicate information to a package maintainer, just like I rarely bother to deal with challenge/response emails. Don Armstrong -- S: Make me a sandwich B: What? Make it yourself. S: sudo make me a sandwich B: Okay. -- xkcd http://xkcd.com/c149.html

Bug#564536: GRUB maintainer address bounces

2010-01-12 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, Robert Millan wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 07:58:09PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: The main reason is that you avoid bothering people whose mails are obviously not spam with needing to subscribe to a mailing list simply to communicate with the maintainer. Why would

Re: Bug#564536: GRUB maintainer address bounces

2010-01-19 Thread Don Armstrong
...@packages.d.o. I agree for the most part. If we actually need a hard policy, that should happen first via the normal policy process, and only be brought to the CTTE as a last resort. Don Armstrong -- When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice

Bug#569048: tech-ctte: Unable to record the sound

2010-02-09 Thread Don Armstrong
) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-ctte-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Don Armstrong -- Miracles had become relative common-places since the advent of entheogens; it now took

Bug#557948: Severity of 557948 and plans for this bug

2010-03-01 Thread Don Armstrong
Is there still a request for the ctte to override the maintainer on the severity of this bug? FWICT, Anibal agrees that this is a bug, and currently the only issue is how to best fix both it and #500454. Don Armstrong -- I don't care how poor and inefficient a little country is; they like

Bug#557948: Severity of 557948 and plans for this bug

2010-03-01 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 01 Mar 2010, Sune Vuorela wrote: On Monday 01 March 2010 23:21:37 Don Armstrong wrote: Is there still a request for the ctte to override the maintainer on the severity of this bug? FWICT, Anibal agrees that this is a bug, and currently the only issue is how to best fix both

Bug#557948: Severity of 557948 and plans for this bug

2010-03-22 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote: On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 03:49:08PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: Do you expect the ctte to override the severity or demand a specific fix? The former can be done, but the latter will (almost certainly) require a patch before that happens. I

Re: Bug#557948: Severity of 557948 and plans for this bug

2010-03-31 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Don Armstrong wrote: On Thu, 04 Mar 2010, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote: On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 03:49:08PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: Do you expect the ctte to override the severity or demand a specific fix? The former can be done, but the latter will (almost

Bug#575059: Should Package-Type be included in udebs or not?

2010-03-31 Thread Don Armstrong
-Package-Type and why the lintian warning was used in the first place. [I suppose an alternative would be a lintian warning which noted the presence of Package-Type: in the udeb itself instead of looking at the source package's debian/control, which would allow this transition.] Don Armstrong -- You

Bug#575059: Should Package-Type be included in udebs or not?

2010-04-01 Thread Don Armstrong
) Unfortunatly, this is the only way to currently not include P-T, but this is an implementation detail, and distinct from whether or not it should be included. Don Armstrong -- [T]he question of whether Machines Can Think, [...] is about as relevant as the question of whether Submarines Can

Bug#575059: Should Package-Type be included in udebs or not?

2010-04-07 Thread Don Armstrong
to decide in this instance (unless someone disagrees with Guillem's decision, and really needs the CTTE to ratify it.) Don Armstrong -- No matter how many instances of white swans we may have observed, this does not justify the conclusion that all swans are white. -- Sir Karl Popper _Logic

Re: runinit-run, releaseability thereof

2010-07-27 Thread Don Armstrong
of course be refered back to the ctte.] Don Armstrong -- Information wants to be free to kill again. -- Red Robot http://www.dieselsweeties.com/archive.php?s=1372 http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-ctte-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Mailing list filtering for debian-ctte

2010-08-31 Thread Don Armstrong
positives for mails which look like they had a PGP signature. [I don't know if the implementation of sigcheck we have on liszt knows how to figure out if a signature is valid without a keyring containing the key...] Don Armstrong 1: Assuming I'm reading the procmail correctly, anyway. -- DIE

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-10-07 Thread Don Armstrong
will not be released. Does anyone disagree with this assessment ? This sounds correct and reasonable to me. Is anyone not happy with bringing this issue to a vote in the near future? Is there some other question or more information which we need to resolve? Don Armstrong -- If I had a letter, sealed

Bug#587956: a patch

2010-10-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 08 Oct 2010, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Oct 08, Don Armstrong d...@donarmstrong.com wrote: Marco: would it be acceptable to apply this patch (or one of your design with similar effect), or do you want the CTTE to continue its laborious process? I believe I already stated my position

Bug#552688: Please decide how Debian should enable hardening build flags

2010-11-20 Thread Don Armstrong
combination of the above. Don Armstrong -- I really wanted to talk to her. I just couldn't find an algorithm that fit. -- Peter Watts _Blindsight_ p294 http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-ctte-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-11-29 Thread Don Armstrong
and Joachim are to be joint maintainers of lilo. ] Don Armstrong -- Quite the contrary; they *love* collateral damage. If they can make you miserable enough, maybe you'll stop using email entirely. Once enough people do that, then there'll be no legitimate reason left for anyone to run an SMTP

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-11-30 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Don Armstrong wrote: Is there any objection to starting the voting process on this issue with the options presented in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587886#55 ? [for reference: A. lilo should be removed. In the meantime, William is to be sole

Bug#607368: Please decide how kernel ABI should be managed

2010-12-26 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 12:08 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: On Sun, 19 Dec 2010, Julien BLACHE wrote: I think it would be best if this matter would be decided upon before the release of Squeeze, or not too long after it, so as to avoid further

Bug#607368: Please decide how kernel ABI should be managed

2011-01-03 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 15:55 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: Ok. And am I correct in assuming that if the ABI change would break an OOT module, you would normally change the ABI number? In the time I've been involved in the kernel team, I haven't yet

Bug#573745: ping

2011-01-03 Thread Don Armstrong
this and see what the current status is and if there are still remaining issues which need to be worked through. I'll try to get a status report on this by the end of this week and see where we are at. Don Armstrong -- UF: What's your favorite coffee blend? PD: Dark Crude with heavy water. You

Bug#552688: For real!?

2011-01-23 Thread Don Armstrong
directly bearing on the underlying technical problem need not be sent to the bug log or the CTTE. Don Armstrong -- Guns Don't Kill People. *I* Kill People. http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-ctte-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Bug#510415: Call for votes on Bug#510415: tech-ctte: Qmail inclusion (or not) in Debian

2011-03-29 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011, Gerrit Pape wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 02:34:16PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, Andreas Barth wrote: 34215 With 4 people ranking 3 first, and Steve ranking it second, I believe the outcome is no longer in doubt, and so the CTTE has resolved

Re: Orphan packages

2011-03-29 Thread Don Armstrong
...@lists.debian.org) with a few messages and rough translations of what is being said, we can attempt to address the problem. [Unfortunately, none of us read Russian, so we can't examine his posts ourselves.] Don Armstrong -- What I can't stand is the feeling that my brain is leaving me for someone

Bug#629385: Request for TC to rule on a course of action for supporting build-arch

2011-06-06 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 06 Jun 2011, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 06/06/11 at 13:35 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: Happens; do you have any recollection of what the failures were from? [Just trying to make sure that they were failures which were fixable, and not some kind of unforeseen systematic problem

Re: draft ballot: please rule on how to implement debian/rules build-arch

2012-01-24 Thread Don Armstrong
. (In fact, I think we're probably long overdue for voting on this.) I believe we're just missing someone to write up a ballot with the options and call for a vote. Don Armstrong -- There is no such thing as social gambling. Either you are there to cut the other bloke's heart out and eat

Bug#658341: Call for Vote: upload of multi-arch enabled dpkg (in time for wheezy)

2012-02-02 Thread Don Armstrong
implementation until he can finish code review. C. Further discussion. I vote A C B. Don Armstrong -- Of course Pacman didn't influence us as kids. If it did, we'd be running around in darkened rooms, popping pills and listening to repetitive music. http://www.donarmstrong.com http

Bug#607368: Call for Vote: Kernel ABI numbering policy

2012-02-24 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Don Armstrong wrote: I call for a vote on the kernel ABI numbering policy bug with the following ballot: A) The technical committee declines to override the kernel maintenance team's ABI numbering policy. B) Further discussion END. I vote AB. Don Armstrong

Bug#629385: Request for TC to rule on a course of action for supporting build-arch

2012-03-20 Thread Don Armstrong
to debian/rules build and the make -qn auto-detection are temporary to ease the transition but should be dropped at some point (wheezy+1, or wheezy+2). Debian Policy should be updated to make build-arch and build-indep mandatory targets. B. Further discussion I vote AB. Don

Re: periodic tech-ctte IRC meetings

2012-05-03 Thread Don Armstrong
for everyone, though. Don Armstrong -- I'm sorry about those late night emails. I only said those things because I was too drunk to be afraid. -- a softer world #579 http://www.asofterworld.com/index.php?id=579 http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: periodic tech-ctte IRC meetings

2012-05-09 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 03 May 2012, Don Armstrong wrote: On Mon, 30 Apr 2012, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: The DPL is mostly an outsider in all of the above, but I consider this a very important topic for the project and I'm willing to invest some time in it. So, if you want me to, I can try to find a time

Re: periodic tech-ctte IRC meetings

2012-05-09 Thread Don Armstrong
in #debian-ctte on irc.freenode.net. You sure you meant freenode, when the channel is actually on OFTC, AKA irc.debian.org? :) At least thats what chanserv on both is saying... Right, that should have been irc.debian.org (OFTC), not FN. Don Armstrong -- I leave the show floor

Re: periodic tech-ctte IRC meetings

2012-05-10 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 11 May 2012, Ian Jackson wrote: Don Armstrong writes (Re: periodic tech-ctte IRC meetings): How about I try scheduling by fiat: Wed May 30 19:00:00 UTC 2012 Wed May 30 12:00:00 PDT 2012 date -d @1338404400 I'm afraid I can't make that time on any Wednesday. If we're looking

Re: periodic tech-ctte IRC meetings

2012-05-10 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 11 May 2012, Ian Jackson wrote: Don Armstrong writes (Re: periodic tech-ctte IRC meetings): On Fri, 11 May 2012, Ian Jackson wrote: I'm afraid I can't make that time on any Wednesday. If we're looking at that kind of time of day I can't do Wednesday or Monday or most Tuesdays

Re: periodic tech-ctte IRC meetings

2012-05-13 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 12 May 2012, Andreas Barth wrote: * Don Armstrong (d...@debian.org) [120509 22:58]: As only Russ and myself have responded, I'm guessing that using Doodle isn't going to work particularly well for scheduling: How about I try scheduling by fiat: Wed May 30 19:00:00 UTC 2012

Re: Technical Committee proposed GRs

2012-05-31 Thread Don Armstrong
to propose a GR. The TC has the power under §4.2.1; it probably should also be listed under §6.1 too. Maybe clarifying this is one of the things that should be done in the slate of amendments proposed. Don Armstrong -- Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you. If you don't bet, you

Re: Draft resolution for node+nodejs

2012-07-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 08 Jul 2012, Steve Langasek wrote: I'm calling for votes on the below resolution on the Node/NodeJS question. === Resolution === [...] === End Resolution === Ballot: 1. Approve transition plan for node and nodejs 2. Further discussion I vote 12. Don Armstrong -- I

Bug#614907: Call for votes on node+nodejs

2012-07-12 Thread Don Armstrong
be considered suitable for release with respect to the Debian policy on conflicting packages. === End Resolution === With Colin's vote, the outcome is no longer in doubt, and the above resolution is adopted by the committee. Don Armstrong -- It's not Hollywood. War is real, war

Re: Draft GR for permitting private discussion

2012-07-16 Thread Don Armstrong
it to the project level? Yes, the CTTE uses the standard resolution procedure to vote for the proposal before it can be proposed by the CTTE. Specifically, we use §6.3.1 to vote for the proposal, and the proposal is proposed under §4.2.1. Don Armstrong -- All bad precedents began as justifiable measures

Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main

2012-07-20 Thread Don Armstrong
some alternative Depends: and Recommends: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681419#100 ** Do any packages pull in non-free automatically already? *** Apparently, no http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681419#100 * Involved Parties ** debian-pol...@lists.debian.org Don

Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal

2012-07-20 Thread Don Armstrong
...@coredump.us, Ron r...@debian.org, 682...@bugs.debian.org, 675...@bugs.debian.org, Nicos Gollan gt...@spearhead.de, Thorvald Natvig thorv...@natvig.com Don Armstrong -- Who is thinking this? I am. -- Greg Egan _Diaspora_ p38 http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu

debian-ctte git repository

2012-07-20 Thread Don Armstrong
to clone and have me merge in changes, or suggest that we move it to somewhere under git.debian.org. Don Armstrong -- A Democracy lead by politicians and political parties, fails. http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-ctte-requ

Re: debian-ctte git repository

2012-07-20 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 03:45:05PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: Just as a side note, I've created a debian-ctte git repository to try to track and summarize our increasing number of outstanding issues. It probably should be moved to some suitable

Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT codec library removal

2012-07-21 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 02:48:07PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: I've updated the summary with the suggested changes (at the end). From the BTS, it doesn't look to me like this summary has taken? I've cleared out the summary in the BTS because

CTTE IRC Meeting reminder: date -d 'July 26 2012 17:00 UTC'

2012-07-25 Thread Don Armstrong
Just a reminder that the next CTTE IRC meeting is at: date -d 'July 26 2012 17:00 UTC' on #debian-ctte on irc.debian.org. I've also taken the liberty of shoving a stab at the agenda in the git repository, feel free to add/modify items. git://git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/debian-ctte.git Don

Re: CTTE IRC Meeting reminder: date -d 'July 26 2012 17:00 UTC'

2012-07-26 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 25 Jul 2012, Don Armstrong wrote: Just a reminder that the next CTTE IRC meeting is at: date -d 'July 26 2012 17:00 UTC' on #debian-ctte on irc.debian.org. Summary: http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-ctte/2012/debian-ctte.2012-07-26-16.59.html Logs: http://meetbot.debian.net/debian

Bug#682010: Interoperability with speex patch

2012-07-30 Thread Don Armstrong
to prepare such packages and test them, ideally within two weeks (say, before the 13th of August), that would be greatly appreciated. Don Armstrong -- Leukocyte... I am your father. -- R. Stevens http://www.dieselsweeties.com/archive.php?s=1546 http://www.donarmstrong.com http

Bug#681687: Call for votes on evince MIME entry

2012-08-09 Thread Don Armstrong
. Further Discussion. I vote BAF. Don Armstrong -- The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair. -- Douglas Adams

Bug#681783: Call for votes on Recommends and metapackages

2012-08-17 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012, Ian Jackson wrote: I'm calling for a vote on my proposal for a disposal of #681783, re Recommends and particularly metapackages. The options are: A Recommends policy is correct, clarification would be useful F Further discussion. I vote AF. Don Armstrong

CTTE IRC meeting is at date -d 'August 30 2012 17:00 UTC'

2012-08-29 Thread Don Armstrong
agenda items as appropriate. Don Armstrong -- NASCAR is a Yankee conspiracy to keep you all placated so the South won't rise again. -- http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=327 http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-ctte-requ

Re: Details about ctte list [Re: CTTE IRC meeting is at date -d 'August 30 2012 17:00 UTC']

2012-09-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 04 Sep 2012, Don Armstrong wrote: I'm going to file an RT ticket shortly to ask for the current list of members to be added to that alias. Martin Zobel-Helas has kindly fixed up the aliases in response to the RT ticket. If anyone didn't receive my testing mail earlier, please verify

Bug#685795: Possibly inviting a new TC member

2012-09-07 Thread Don Armstrong
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Re: Bug#685795: Possibly inviting a new TC member

2012-09-10 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 07 Sep 2012, Don Armstrong wrote: Below, please find the current draft of the call for nominations. I'd like to send this e-mail out on Monday the 10th, so please make any changes in the git repository [685795_new_member/call_for_nominations.txt] (or suggest them in a response, and I

Re: Abusive and obnoxious behavior

2012-09-25 Thread Don Armstrong
to * Move network-manager dependency to gnome. Only recommend it in gnome-core. This should be in compliance with the Crusade. Closes: #645656. so that we can more completely address it? Don Armstrong -- I'm wrong to criticize the valor of your brave men. It's important to die for one's

Next CTTE meeting is at date -d 'September 27 2012 17:00 UTC' on #debian-ctte on irc.debian.org

2012-09-25 Thread Don Armstrong
Just a reminder that the next CTTE meeting is at date -d 'September 27 2012 17:00 UTC'. The current agenda is located here: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/debian-ctte.git;a=blob_plain;f=meetings/agenda.txt;hb=HEAD please update and/or add agenda items as appropriate. Don

Re: Next CTTE meeting is at date -d 'September 27 2012 17:00 UTC' on #debian-ctte on irc.debian.org

2012-09-27 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 25 Sep 2012, Don Armstrong wrote: Just a reminder that the next CTTE meeting is at date -d 'September 27 2012 17:00 UTC'. The current agenda is located here: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/debian-ctte.git;a=blob_plain;f=meetings/agenda.txt;hb=HEAD please update

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