Hello,
On Fri 17 Jun 2022 at 02:45am +02, gregor herrmann wrote:
> Well, yes, sure.
> That would all be nice.
> But issuing some advice about 1.0-with-or-without-dpatch or whatever
> doesn't really change anything for them.
Indeed, we have somewhat drifted off-topic :)
> Oh, right, I totally
> "Helmut" == Helmut Grohne writes:
Helmut> Indeed, and I do agree that 4c is such a clear statement. I
Helmut> would like to see a stronger statement here, but Sam et
Helmut> al. tried to gain consensus on that and there wasn't. So the
Helmut> CTTE advice probably shouldn't
On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 16:56:24 -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
> On Fri 17 Jun 2022 at 01:03AM +02, gregor herrmann wrote:
> > And that's what we are talking about: Debian experts building
> > packages for Debian. At least that's what my priorities are.
> I think Ian might really mean "Debian source
Hello,
On Fri 17 Jun 2022 at 01:03AM +02, gregor herrmann wrote:
> And that's what we are talking about: Debian experts building
> packages for Debian. At least that's what my priorities are.
I think Ian might really mean "Debian source package experts". It ought
to be our goal to make it so
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 11:08:59 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Helmut Grohne writes ("Re: Bug#1007717: Updated draft resolution"):
> > Simon looked at how other distributions approach patches and figured
> > that basically everyone else uses the patches-unapplied model.
>
Hello,
On Thu 16 Jun 2022 at 08:47am +02, Helmut Grohne wrote:
>
> Indeed, and I do agree that 4c is such a clear statement. I would like
> to see a stronger statement here, but Sam et al. tried to gain consensus
> on that and there wasn't. So the CTTE advice probably shouldn't override
> that
Hi,
On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 04:06:55PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> If you look at Debian 'testing' only, I think that the only remaining
> way to do that is 1.0 + quilt (packages that were using dpatch have all
> been converted or removed from testing).
That's good. I wasn't able to locate a
Hello,
On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 04:06PM +02, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>
> According to https://udd.debian.org/~lucas/format10.cgi (which is based
> on what lintian knows about the archive), there are 114 packages using
> 1.0 with quilt. However, 67 of those are maintained by the Debian X
> team. If
Hi,
On 15/06/22 at 07:32 +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> The other model restricts itself to only adding files below
> debian/ and then using debian/rules to actually apply patches during
> build. This latter model is fairly annoying, because there are so many
> different ways of doing it (i.e. we
Helmut Grohne writes ("Re: Bug#1007717: Updated draft resolution"):
> Simon looked at how other distributions approach patches and figured
> that basically everyone else uses the patches-unapplied model.
patches-unapplied is a good fit for distro experts in distros which
are stil
Re: Helmut Grohne
> For the reasons above, I do think we need another variant of 4.
Your view makes a lot of sense. Would you think you could draft a "4"
variant that summarizes it? I admit I'm lost between all the details
and would like a spot to go to, and then look at the alternatives from
Hi,
On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 10:31:18PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
> Here's an updated ballot in light of our upcoming meeting. I've left
> space to add a 4b, if, when our current discussion is concluded, someone
> would like that in addition to 4c.
After the meeting, Simon, Sean and myself
Hello,
On Tue 10 May 2022 at 05:29pm -07, Sean Whitton wrote:
> At today's ctte meeting we considered whether we can start a vote on
> this, but two committee members were missing, and someone else at the
> meeting reported that they hadn't yet been able to spend enough time
> thinking through
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