Bug#971515: Status as of last tech-ctte meeting

2021-01-21 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Friday, 20 November 2020 4:35:23 PM AEDT Elana Hashman wrote: > Kubernetes is a very large and active project. It has about 600 > members,[0] 1000 voters,[1] 100 committers (which I define as members of > the milestone-maintainers team),[2] and over 50,000 contributors.[3] The > project has its

Bug#971515: Status as of last tech-ctte meeting

2020-11-22 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Philip Hands > Tollef Fog Heen writes: > > > ]] Shengjing Zhu > > > >> Firefox is special, since for Debian desktop users, they need a browser. Is > >> kubernetes same here? > > > > FWIW, the lack of Kubernetes or a similar orchestration platform (mesos, > > nomad, docker swarm) in stable

Bug#971515: Status as of last tech-ctte meeting

2020-11-21 Thread Philip Hands
Tollef Fog Heen writes: > ]] Shengjing Zhu > >> Firefox is special, since for Debian desktop users, they need a browser. Is >> kubernetes same here? > > FWIW, the lack of Kubernetes or a similar orchestration platform (mesos, > nomad, docker swarm) in stable has been keeping back development of

Bug#971515: Status as of last tech-ctte meeting

2020-11-21 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Shengjing Zhu > Firefox is special, since for Debian desktop users, they need a browser. Is > kubernetes same here? FWIW, the lack of Kubernetes or a similar orchestration platform (mesos, nomad, docker swarm) in stable has been keeping back development of the next generation way of handling

Bug#971515: Status as of last tech-ctte meeting

2020-11-20 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Josh On 2020/11/20 01:30, Josh Triplett wrote: > In particular, with my upstream Rust/Cargo hats on, I would love to work > with you and others on questions of what software packaging could look > like, and how to maintain the quality and curation *and* package > availability of Debian in

Bug#971515: Status as of last tech-ctte meeting

2020-11-19 Thread Josh Triplett
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 10:26:21AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > There are a lot of fascinating edge cases and precedents and philosophical > questions about the function of a distribution here, and I think they > rightfully attract a lot of energy, but I'm worried this is at the cost of > losing

Bug#971515: Status as of last tech-ctte meeting

2020-11-19 Thread Shengjing Zhu
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 10:26:21AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > I maintain a bunch of Kubernetes clusters as part of my job. Those > clusters are run by other people (cloud providers, data centers, etc.). I > need clients to talk to those clusters. When I first started working with >

Bug#971515: Status as of last tech-ctte meeting

2020-11-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes ("Bug#971515: Status as of last tech-ctte meeting"): > [much stuff] Oh, wow, Russ. Thank you very much. What an excellent piece of writing. I agree entirely with all of it. Ian. (And I speak as someone who thinks that this newfangled "vendor everything&q

Bug#971515: Status as of last tech-ctte meeting

2020-11-18 Thread Russ Allbery
This is an excellent discussion and a good summary. Thank you, Gunnar! Gunnar Wolf writes: > There is a course of action that's unlikely to leave everybody happy, > but is worth considering: Phil said: > Phil> > that makes it seem like what we actually need is a decent way of >

Bug#971515: Status as of last tech-ctte meeting

2020-11-18 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello all, On Wed 18 Nov 2020 at 11:36AM -06, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > So... It's not like we reached a conclusion, but I do feel the meeting > was interesting and the discussion very much worthy. Yes, this will > surely end up in reinforcing the notion that the Technical Committee > is a slow and

Bug#971515: Status as of last tech-ctte meeting

2020-11-18 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Hello world, When we had our last tech-ctte meeting, 2020.10.21ยน, I volunteered to write up a summary of our positions regarding this bug. Then... Well, life happened, and I have not had the time to sit down and write until today -- A couple of hours before our next meeting. Several other