Re: xforms0.86 package insanity

1998-01-03 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Ben == Ben Gertzfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben Should I distribute the binary-only .tar.gz as the Ben .orig.tar.gz, and make the diff as usual? *grin* Also, shouldn't the package be named 'libforms0.88'? I can also release a 'libforms0.86' that replaces, provides, and conflicts

Re: xforms0.86 package insanity

1998-01-03 Thread Richard Braakman
Ben Gertzfield wrote: Well, I guess I'll do so, since nobody else is stepping forward to do it. Should I distribute the binary-only .tar.gz as the .orig.tar.gz, and make the diff as usual? Hmm... xforms0.86 is .deb only. I think having a source package would be preferable, yes. It will

Re: tecra patch?

1998-01-03 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
Hi Bruce! Who maintains the tecra patch, and where can I find it? I don't know if there is a Debian maintainer for the patch, but I always get it from Jens Maurer's Linux on the Toshiba Tecra series page at http://www.cck.uni-kl.de/misc/tecra710/ The file is at

Re: Libc6 progress: 1997-12-28

1998-01-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Dec 28, 1997 at 03:47:22PM +0100, Richard Braakman wrote: Philippe Troin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: perlmagick-1.15-2 imagemagick-3.9.0-1 libhdf4g-dev-4.0.2-4 (Depends on libhdf4) It's a strange dependency, but libhdf4 actually depends on libhdf4g rather than just requiring a particular

Re: Libc6 progress: 1997-12-28

1998-01-03 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Sun, Dec 28, 1997 at 03:47:22PM +0100, Richard Braakman wrote: Philippe Troin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: perlmagick-1.15-2 imagemagick-3.9.0-1 libhdf4g-dev-4.0.2-4 (Depends on libhdf4) It's a strange dependency, but libhdf4 actually depends

libc6 pine ?

1998-01-03 Thread Gergely Madarasz
Hello, I was just informed (thanks, Che ;)) that there is a newer pine source-only package in non-free... does it compile and work with libc6 ? I remember that a couple of months ago there were some problems with libc6 pine, I dont know if it was corrected yet... the changelog is not informative

Missing libpthread0_7-1.deb?

1998-01-03 Thread Steve Mayer
Hello, I hope that this is the right list to post this to. I have been trying to install the latest libc6 and libc6-dev packages (2.0.6-2 I believe) and have to this point been unsuccessful. The libc6 package depends on libpthreads0.7-1. The latest version on ftp.debian.org (and on my

debhelper design change - RFC (long)

1998-01-03 Thread Joey Hess
Ben Gertzfield has convinced me that debhelper's special treatment of the first package listed in debian/control isn't a good thing. I'm thinking about redesigning debhelper to act in a more consitent fasion. Of course, backwards compatability is very important. (Especially since people enjoy

Re: debhelper design change - RFC (long)

1998-01-03 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *excellent explanation of what can happen snipped* Joey I far prefer #3, I feel it's the cleanest way to go (it will Joey simplify the man pages a lot), but its backwards Joey compatability problems worry me. If people think #3 is too

Re: debhelper design change - RFC (long)

1998-01-03 Thread Joey Hess
Ben Gertzfield wrote: I agree, and would prefer #3 -- but is there anything but dh_installdirs that needs to be changed if we do it that way? Yes. This change would effect at least: dh_installdirs, dh_installdocs, dh_installchangelogs, dh_installexamples, dh_undocumented, dh_installmanpages,

Re: debhelper design change - RFC (long)

1998-01-03 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joey Ben Gertzfield wrote: Ben I agree, and would prefer #3 -- but is there anything but Ben dh_installdirs that needs to be changed if we do it that way? Joey Yes. This change would effect at least: Joey dh_installdirs,

Re: debhelper design change - RFC (long)

1998-01-03 Thread Joey Hess
Ben Gertzfield wrote: Okay. Is there any way we can possibly detect and issue a warning if someone tries the old behavior (when would this happen) if we go with #3, also? I thought about that. I can test to see if parameters are specified and the package being acted on is not the first binary

Re: libc6 pine ?

1998-01-03 Thread Dave Cook
On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Gergely Madarasz wrote: Hi I was just informed (thanks, Che ;)) that there is a newer pine source-only package in non-free... does it compile and work with libc6 ? I remember that a couple of months ago there were some problems with libc6 pine, I dont know if it was

libc6 is missing swab

1998-01-03 Thread Adam Heath
When trying to compile nfsroot for libc6, I got a implicit declaration of swab(...). I fixed it by copying the declaration out of unistd.h. Then, during linking, I got an undefined reference to swap(...). I ran objdump on libc.a, and found swap.o, but it only had a text section, and no code!

Re: libc6 is missing swab

1998-01-03 Thread Adam Heath
| On Saturday, 3 January 98, at 4:12:27 AM | Adam wrote about libc6 is missing swab When trying to compile nfsroot for libc6, I got a implicit declaration of swab(...). I fixed it by copying the declaration out of unistd.h. Then, during linking, I got an undefined reference to swap(...). I

Checklist request

1998-01-03 Thread bhmit1
Hello everyone, -- BACKGROUND AND CURRENT STATUS: -- Ok, I'm finally ready to start doing this. For those that are reading this for the first time, the checklist will be used by the testers to verify a package is working correctly.

Not i386 Debian

1998-01-03 Thread Marco Bellini
What about Digital Alpha and Sun Sparc debian version? Marco. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: debhelper design change - RFC (long)

1998-01-03 Thread Richard Braakman
It should be possible to construct a regexp that detects these usage patterns. Then you could grep through the .diff.gz files on the archive to see if they are used anywhere, and file individual bugreports. With a few exceptions, the diffs are not very large -- you won't be grepping through 500

I am having trouble downloading

1998-01-03 Thread Suthagar
The base system has installed smoothly however the packages are proving cumbersome, is there a distributer of Debian on CD in Sydney Austrlaia I could not find a reference to one on the website thanks in advance Suthagar -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to

Re: Re[6]: My own libc6 progress, and package adoption drive. Give me an account on master!

1998-01-03 Thread Martin Schulze
On Fri, Jan 02, 1998 at 03:14:31PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: No, the new package should be named similar to the upstream source but the control file should contain these lines: Conflicts: mdutils Replaces: mdutils Provides: mdutils But what if they currently have mdutils

Re: Not i386 Debian

1998-01-03 Thread Martin Schulze
On Sat, Jan 03, 1998 at 12:42:36PM +0100, Marco Bellini wrote: What about Digital Alpha and Sun Sparc debian version? Both ports exist but are not quite complete. They are usable though. There are two mailing lists debian-sparc and debian-alpha@lists.debian.org where you should get further

Re: dhelp 0.2 - a online help system

1998-01-03 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Thu, 1 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I've released the latest version of my HTML online help system for Debian. Bugs reports are welcome :). I like it but... 1) How about dwww? (Yes, I know dwww needs a web server...) 2) I really dont like to have 2/3/... methods of

Re: need libc5 non-maintainer upgrade

1998-01-03 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Chris Fearnley wrote: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:' Actually, I'm not sure there is a problem with libc5-altdev. There definitely is a dependency clash between libc5 and libc6, which David Engel thinks we should patch by producing an upgrade for libc5. This will have to be

Re: need libc5 non-maintainer upgrade

1998-01-03 Thread Richard Braakman
Christian Schwarz wrote: [Immediate-Configure: Yes field] If I recall correctly, there were two reasons for delaying the configuration step until all packages had been unpacked: 1.- Packages are more likely to have their dependencies satisfied if all of the packages being installed

Re: libc6 pine ?

1998-01-03 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Gergely Madarasz wrote: It would be so nice to remove libc5 from one of my machines... and pine is the only obstacle (no, i cannot tell 30 people to switch to mutt :)) You don't have to... Tell'em to use emacs... :) Just kidding, I'm using pine on a libc6 machine, and I

Re: libc6 pine ?

1998-01-03 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: You don't have to... Tell'em to use emacs... :) Just kidding, I'm using pine on a libc6 machine, and I _think_ it's libc6... Just double checked... I'm using a libc5 pine to... sorry... Emacs is still greate... :)

Re: libc6 pine ?

1998-01-03 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Gergely Madarasz wrote: I was just informed (thanks, Che ;)) that there is a newer pine source-only package in non-free... does it compile and work with libc6 ? It compiles, but it does not work (it does, but not in a multi-user environment, so installing it

Re: need libc5 non-maintainer upgrade

1998-01-03 Thread Chris Fearnley
'Christian Schwarz wrote:' On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Chris Fearnley wrote: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:' Actually, I'm not sure there is a problem with libc5-altdev. There definitely is a dependency clash between libc5 and libc6, which David Engel thinks we should patch by producing an upgrade

Re: xforms0.86 package insanity

1998-01-03 Thread Scott Hanson
Ben Gertzfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scott == Scott Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scott As soon as someone packages xforms0.88, I'll rebuild both Scott xmysql and xmysqladmin with it... Well, I guess I'll do so, since nobody else is stepping forward to do it. Talk

Re: Missing libpthread0_7-1.deb?

1998-01-03 Thread David Engel
On Fri, Jan 02, 1998 at 11:04:51PM -0700, Steve Mayer wrote: I have been trying to install the latest libc6 and libc6-dev packages (2.0.6-2 I believe) and have to this point been unsuccessful. The libc6 package depends on libpthreads0.7-1. The latest version on ftp.debian.org (and on my

Re: libc6 is missing swab

1998-01-03 Thread Mark W. Eichin
well, swab() isn't a standard function, for one thing. It's a rarely used old-BSD bit, that people occasionally use anyway. Putting the code directly inline is probably all you can do... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble?

Removing directories in postrm ?

1998-01-03 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
A few of python's postinst scripts byte-compile the source files they install. The byte-compiled files are to be removed by the postrm scripts (a script removes all byte-compiled files where sources can't be found). Now if the python package had created a new directory, this directory is

Re: What warrants a non-maintainer release number?

1998-01-03 Thread Christian Schwarz
On 27 Dec 1997, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 17 Dec 1997, James Troup wrote: [snip] If the binary changes, the version number should change. Completely agreed. Everything else will only result in a big mess. I'll check our how I can

Re: Linking shared libraries with -lc

1998-01-03 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Richard Braakman wrote: I made a list of packages that include shared libraries for which ldd says statically linked. I plan to use this list to automatically generate bug reports (about 50). However, I am unsure of the text to use. This is my first try: [snip] First

Re: Linking shared libraries with -lc

1998-01-03 Thread jdassen
On Sat, Jan 03, 1998 at 07:09:38PM +0100, Christian Schwarz wrote: On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Richard Braakman wrote: [-lc issue] Basically, I agree with you. However, I think we should stick to the usual procedure. That is, we should prepare a policy change which will then be discussion on

Re: What warrants a non-maintainer release number?

1998-01-03 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By changing the dependencies you changed the source package before, or? Technically, no. The dependencies are build by dpkg-shlibdeps, so for all intents and purposes, the *only* difference between the old package and the new was the things totally

Intent to package mrtg nntpcache...

1998-01-03 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
I am going to be installing both of these on a Debian system, so it behooves me to package them, assuming no one is already in the process of doing so. Unfortunately, nntpcache must go in non-free, but it is worlds more capable than leafnode, and I must have the features. If I've missed

Re: Intent to package mrtg nntpcache...

1998-01-03 Thread James Troup
Michael Alan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If I've missed something, someone please let me know. from hamm/contrib/Packages: Package: mrtg Version: 2.5.1-1 Priority: extra Section: contrib/net Maintainer: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] Depends: libc6, libgd1g, perl (= 5.003) Recommends: httpd

Re: Linking shared libraries with -lc

1998-01-03 Thread Richard Braakman
Christian Schwarz wrote: Basically, I agree with you. However, I think we should stick to the usual procedure. That is, we should prepare a policy change which will then be discussion on debian-policy and included in the next policy weekly posting for approval. After that, the policy manual is

Re: Intent to package mrtg nntpcache...

1998-01-03 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Alan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am going to be installing both of these on a Debian system, so it behooves me to package them, assuming no one is already in the process of doing so. Unfortunately, nntpcache must go in non-free, but it is worlds more

Re: debhelper design change - RFC (long)

1998-01-03 Thread Joey Hess
Richard Braakman wrote: It should be possible to construct a regexp that detects these usage patterns. Then you could grep through the .diff.gz files on the archive to see if they are used anywhere, and file individual bugreports. With a few exceptions, the diffs are not very large -- you

What's going on with gpc?

1998-01-03 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Davies) wrote on 07.12.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is a request for some feedback from current and potential users of GPC. I have GPC 2.0 compiled for hamm, built using GCC 2.7.2.3. The next version of GPC (currently 971001) is in beta, but is already more stable

Re: Intent to package mrtg nntpcache...

1998-01-03 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Alan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If I've missed something, someone please let me know. from hamm/contrib/Packages: Thanks, James, I guess I must have looked at the available list on my alpha, not for i386... Mike. -- Michael Alan Dorman

Re: Intent to package mrtg nntpcache...

1998-01-03 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miquel van Smoorenburg) writes: Did you look at newscache, http://www.infosys.tuwien.ac.at/NewsCache/ I have now. It's supposed to do the same as nntpcache, but it's GPL'ed It does seem to do the things I wanted from nntpcache (primarily the ability to proxy from multiple

Re: Removing directories in postrm ?

1998-01-03 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
A few of python's postinst scripts byte-compile the source files they install. The byte-compiled files are to be removed by the postrm scripts (a script removes all byte-compiled files where sources can't be found). Now if the python package had created a new directory, this directory is

Re: Debian and the millenium bug

1998-01-03 Thread Michael Stone
Originally on debian-announce, but it seems development related... Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Before 2036 we must define time_t, to be a 64-bit variable instead of a 32-bit one, and recompile all programs. This is a very simple process compared to the anguish the non-Unix