Re: Lists archives outside debian.org

1998-04-21 Thread Martin Schulze
On Thu, Apr 16, 1998 at 12:58:08PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There now appear to be a few search sites that cover a lot of mailing > lists: > > http://www.reference.com/ > and > http://www.findmail.com/ > > Both already have many major linux lists (like [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > (for

Re: Debian GNU/Linux: Best of the Web! (fwd)

1998-04-21 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 11:33:49AM -0400, James A.Treacy wrote: > For those few of you who don't read http://slashdot.org, the > Mining Co has posted their Linux "Best of the Net" site awards. > Debian was number 1. I'd never heard of this company before, > but am not adverse to any good publicity

Nice stuff to package: Open C++

1998-04-21 Thread Yann Dirson
Open C++ is a toolkit providing a meta-programming-level above C++. It has a Xerox copyright which seems to make it DFSG-free. Home page (with online ref. manual): http://www.softlab.is.tsukuba.ac.jp/~chiba/openc++.html It would probably be nice to get this one into slink... -- Yann

Re: bzip2 X

1998-04-21 Thread Bdale Garbee
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: : fast. Its not agood solution, so thats why I asked here about : integrating bzip2 support into gzip. Points well taken. You're just asking in the wrong place. You should take this up with the gzip upstream maintainer. It is not a Debian packaging is

Re: first proposal for a new maintainer policy

1998-04-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, What is this policy group you are talking about? AFAIK, there is no such beast; there is just an public, open mailing list, which is more and less than a formal Policy group. The mailing list was formed to reduce clutter on the devel list, which is rapidly becoming a catch-

Re: first proposal for a new maintainer policy

1998-04-21 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 21 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi. > > Philip> Does that satisfy both sides ? > > This satisfies me. Indeed, this has been my position all the > while, but evidently the joys of the fray and the intellectual > stimulation offered by the flow of reason has been a feast for my >

Re: Debian GNU/Linux: Best of the Web! (fwd)

1998-04-21 Thread G John Lapeyre
On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, James A.Treacy wrote: > For those few of you who don't read http://slashdot.org, the > Mining Co has posted their Linux "Best of the Net" site awards. > Debian was number 1. I'd never heard of this company before, > but am not adverse to any good publicity for Debian. > The aw

Re: Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dale> On 20 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Well, to take a different tack, what is the point of a policy >> document at all when anyone can say "well, my package is an >> exception and need not comply to policy."? If one ma

Re: bzip2 X

1998-04-21 Thread Mark W. Eichin
> Fonts for X could be stored as bz2 instead of gz, man-pages could be > bz2. No, that's actually not true. Changing how gzip-the-program behaves would have no effect on X font handling. Fonts are stored gzipped because there is a fast, free-enough-for-X, zlib implementation. (The server hasn

Re: deb + tar + bzip2 suggestion

1998-04-21 Thread Erv Walter
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Sorry for the late reply - catching up. > IMHO speed is always relevant, and so is memory usage. This is the trap > Micro$oft > and Apple have fallen into. Just because the hardware is capable of running > faster > is no excuse for sloppy coding. I'm

Re: first proposal for a new maintainer policy

1998-04-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi. Philip> Does that satisfy both sides ? This satisfies me. Indeed, this has been my position all the while, but evidently the joys of the fray and the intellectual stimulation offered by the flow of reason has been a feast for my soul, and, added to my evident inability to coherentl

RE: deb + tar + bzip2 suggestion

1998-04-21 Thread Patrick Ouellette
Sorry for the late reply - catching up. IMHO speed is always relevant, and so is memory usage. This is the trap Micro$oft and Apple have fallen into. Just because the hardware is capable of running faster is no excuse for sloppy coding. I'm not saying everything should be written in assembly la

Re: bzip2 X

1998-04-21 Thread Brederlow
Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > : Hmm... it's actually probably a good idea to bzip2 the X sources. > : They're monstrous. > > Probably a good idea. However... > > The right way to handle this is for someone to broach the subject of usin

Intent to package: ras, qvwm, descent

1998-04-21 Thread Falk Hueffner
Hello, I intend to apply as a maintainer (as soon as I find somebody to scan my passport ;) and package: - ras (http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/nc/) Ras is a small utility that adds m extra files to a set of n files, such that the contents of the n original files can be regenerated from any n of th

Re: `Usenix-88-lexic.pdf': Paper refered to in gcc texinfo manual.

1998-04-21 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "jdassen" == jdassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: jdassen> On Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 09:45:27AM -0700, Karl jdassen> M. Hegbloom wrote: >> It is currently, but not for too much longer, sitting in: >> http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg/Public/Usenix-88-lexic.pdf >> >> Pl

Re: weird utmp/perl problem

1998-04-21 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Guy" == Guy Maor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Guy> It's just a silly bug. It calls that code from some scripts Guy> which have fd0 dup'd elsewhere, so isatty(0) is false and Guy> getlogin() fails. Will someone please fix it? It's really annoying. Is it in the bug sys? -- T

Re: binary-CD exceeds 650 MB -- any solution?

1998-04-21 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
>What are the plans for the official CD? main + contrib fit on one cdrom. so i propose to use the official cdrom as long as possible. people (not debian) should then create a third cdrom with non-free source + binaries (parts), and maybe other stuff (kde, netscape, whatever you want to include).

master status

1998-04-21 Thread m*
mark from novare here! we determined last night that the disk where the dist archive resides is bad and must be replaced. i will have that drive replaced and restored as soon as possible so we can get the Project back on track. again sorry for the delay, but we actually had two disks ( Micropoli

Re: package : how to execute a post-install script

1998-04-21 Thread Martin Schulze
On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 05:24:57PM +0200, Julien Ortega wrote: > I am making a package with deb-make for squid (the original package is > good but i want it to install in /usr/local/squid and not /usr/bin; > /usr/etc ... ) > > My package install squid, add a script in init.d but i want it, to > cr

package : how to execute a post-install script

1998-04-21 Thread Julien Ortega
I am making a package with deb-make for squid (the original package is good but i want it to install in /usr/local/squid and not /usr/bin; /usr/etc ... ) My package install squid, add a script in init.d but i want it, to create the cache directory whith nobody rights and launch squid -z, this, onl

Debian GNU/Linux: Best of the Web! (fwd)

1998-04-21 Thread James A . Treacy
For those few of you who don't read http://slashdot.org, the Mining Co has posted their Linux "Best of the Net" site awards. Debian was number 1. I'd never heard of this company before, but am not adverse to any good publicity for Debian. The awards page is at http://linux.miningco.com/library/awar

Re: /tmp exploits

1998-04-21 Thread bear
> On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 11:47:20PM -0700, Guy Maor wrote: >> Modifying libc to catch common security goals is a laudable goal, but >> such a libc should go to experimental. This may be a stupid question, but *what* /tmp exploit are we trying to fix? I ask solely because /tmp should already hav

Re: debian cd creators

1998-04-21 Thread Martin Schulze
On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 04:55:28PM +0200, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: > is there a list for cd-creators ? Does anything speak against [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian-cd@lists.debian.org Description : This list is used to make announcements to cd vendors. Moderated : ye

debian cd creators

1998-04-21 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
is there a list for cd-creators ? i think we need one. topics - mirror file (if you only want to create a cdrom) - createing cdroms - improved check scripts, to make sure that all md5sums are ok, the Packages (and *.gz files !) are up-to-date - putting non-free on cdroms. ... the debian of

Re: I have a pppd connection problem.

1998-04-21 Thread Carlos Barros
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Szomor Attila wrote: > --ppp not replacing existing default route to eth0[0.0.0.0] > --Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP > I do not have idea what is a solution if you know it please send me an > e-mail. > > /etc/ppp/options > asyncmap 0 > cr

Re: /tmp exploits

1998-04-21 Thread Riku Voipio
On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 11:47:20PM -0700, Guy Maor wrote: > Modifying libc to catch common security goals is a laudable goal, but > such a libc should go to experimental. Why change libc? Isn't there a kernel patch that makes /tmp safe? Why isn't no-one using it? -- Joh 3:16 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Intent to package libggi-dynamic

1998-04-21 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
(I mentioned this before, but at the end of another thread which you probably didn't read...) I intend to package libggi-dynamic, a 2d graphics library which provides a common front-end for doing 2d drawing via KGI, svgalib, xlib, aalib and others, or several at once. -- Charles Briscoe-Smith Wh

Re: binary-CD exceeds 650 MB -- any solution?

1998-04-21 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Avery Pennarun wrote: > If we include just the binaries from main and contrib, along > with the disks-i386 directory, we seem to get 659241 kbytes. I > can never quite remember whether a CD contains 640 or 650 > million bytes or megabytes, but this is TIGHT on space. > Shovi

Re: binary-CD exceeds 650 MB -- any solution?

1998-04-21 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 12:01:32AM -0700, Guy Maor wrote: > The sizes are: > 62997 contrib/binary-i386 > 326744 main/binary-i386 > 65237 non-free/binary-i386 > 31849 main/disks-i386 > 86526 contrib/source > 690239 main/source > 148075 non-free/source > > Since the official CD doesn't i

Re: Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-21 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 20 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > > Well, to take a different tack, what is the point of a policy > document at all when anyone can say "well, my package is an > exception and need not comply to policy."? If one may take that > stance, I see no point in having a policy doc

Re: interest in xfstt package

1998-04-21 Thread Mark Baker
On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 10:24:33PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > After hamm is released I'm going to be re-engineering XFree86 a bit. An > xserver-common package will be created, I understand that will be necessary (or at least highly desirable) in future anyway, since new releases of XFree86

Re: bzip2 for source packages?

1998-04-21 Thread Brederlow
Michael Alan Dorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Michael Alan Dorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Might I suggest that using it for source packaging would be > > > appropriate, though? > > By recompressing things in bzip2, you lose the ability to u

Re: bzip2 for source packages?

1998-04-21 Thread Brederlow
James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Michael Alan Dorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Might I suggest that using it for source packaging would be > > appropriate, though? > > By recompressing things in bzip2, you lose the ability to use pristine > upstream source (since the vast majori

intent to package: mayko xmap

1998-04-21 Thread Joey Hess
I'm going to package up a map viewer for X called mayko xmap, plus some sample maps. http://www.mayko.com/ . (I sort of hate to package this, becuase it is binary-only, libc5[1], uses motif, and is non-free. Many strikes against it. On the plus side, it works well, is easy to use, and was a lot

Re: /tmp exploits

1998-04-21 Thread Carey Evans
Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We should modify our libc so that opening a file in /tmp or /var/tmp - > determined by simple string comparison of the filename passed to > open(2) - fails if O_CREAT is specified without O_EXCL. You also need to check whether the current directory is /tm

Re: Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-21 Thread Jim
In the message identified by <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you. That was the point I was so poorly trying to make. No > denigration was intended (just a bit of jealousy at not having any spare > time myself) I'm not a developer, but I see how the debian IRC

Re: /etc/passwd : which software does support this ?

1998-04-21 Thread Guy Maor
Remco Blaakmeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If shadow-login is the only program that supports these fields, they are > useless. If a user had a value "pri=5", he would only have to do something > like > echo 'command' | at now > to get 'command' executed at normal priority. Yes, it's not very e

Re: weird utmp/perl problem

1998-04-21 Thread Guy Maor
It's just a silly bug. It calls that code from some scripts which have fd0 dup'd elsewhere, so isatty(0) is false and getlogin() fails. Guy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: /etc/group lossage

1998-04-21 Thread Guy Maor
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > msqld will only modify /etc/group when the needed group is missing. I don't have msqld installed, so msqld might be doing the correct thing. It's fine to add the group with 'groupadd -g 36 msql', but you definitely shouldn't modify the file directly.

Re: binary-CD exceeds 650 MB -- any solution?

1998-04-21 Thread Guy Maor
The sizes are: 62997 contrib/binary-i386 326744 main/binary-i386 65237 non-free/binary-i386 31849 main/disks-i386 86526 contrib/source 690239 main/source 148075 non-free/source Since the official CD doesn't include non-free, there won't be a problem for this release. All the binaries a

Re: [sara@ora.com: NPR show on open source]

1998-04-21 Thread Guy Maor
Douglas Bates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Make that > http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/980417.totn.02.ram > if you just want the last hour. The Free Software segment is the > second part of that hour. It starts 27:20 minutes in. Guy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: /tmp exploits

1998-04-21 Thread Guy Maor
I agree with Manoj here. Modifying libc to catch common security goals is a laudable goal, but such a libc should go to experimental. Guy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

weird utmp/perl problem

1998-04-21 Thread B. Bell
Okay, I've got a strange problem here. I'm trying to build a .deb, using the devscripts tools and dpkg-dev... I get a utmp error when I try to build: < $ build no utmp entry available, using value of LOGNAME ("brad") at /usr/lib/dpkg/controllib.pl line 16.

Re: interest in xfstt package

1998-04-21 Thread Stephen Carpenter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I have seen a few messages about your "X Strike Force" I find it interesting. Right now I kno wvery little about X but... as I said...one of the main reasons I am interested in doing any of this is that I want to learn Not knowing much about X is one of the thin

Re: Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Well, to take a different tack, what is the point of a policy document at all when anyone can say "well, my package is an exception and need not comply to policy."? If one may take that stance, I see no point in having a policy document in the first place. manoj Why hav

Re: bzip2 X

1998-04-21 Thread Mark W. Eichin
In fact, it has been mentioned (on tar-forum, I believe) that gzip (the program) will eventually include the bzip2 algorithm... But in the meantime, it makes sense for dpkg-source to deal (ideally, by having a set of original files and an explicit map [*not* a general purpose shell script] of how

Re: interest in xfstt package

1998-04-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 10:16:29PM -0400, Stephen Carpenter wrote: > About 10 mins ago I posted a message to the debian-user list in a > discussion of this package xfstt. The reason being that the package > needs some work and I also have noticed it on the list of "Packages > needing a new mainta

interest in xfstt package

1998-04-21 Thread Stephen Carpenter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- About 10 mins ago I posted a message to the debian-user list in a discussion of this package xfstt. The reason being that the package needs some work and I also have noticed it on the list of "Packages needing a new maintainer" That is why I am writting you now (

some intents to package

1998-04-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
I have taken over xpdf and should have xpdf-i (with support for encrypted PDF files) upload to non-US soon. Thanks to Dirk for his help. I also want to package gEDA, which is some electronics design software, GNU EDA. So far they have a schematic editor running. It uses on gtk+. Hamish -- Hami

Re: /tmp exploits

1998-04-21 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> I think we should stay away from delibrate non-compliance, > even for laudable goals such as these. An experimental non-conformant > libc (which I can install on a test system) is not something I shall > object to. Why not doing this: Each program when started, whe libc is initialized

Re: Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-21 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 20 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Dale> The desire is to create a distribution that installs in the > Dale> smallest disk space possible. I saw that requirement as being a > Dale> smaller one than the functionality requirem

Re: autoup.sh v0.25 released

1998-04-21 Thread Craig Sanders
> I've just released version 0.24 which fixes this (and a few minor problems > too). > > v0.24: 1998-04-21 (Craig Sanders) > - added libstdc++, libslang0.99.34 (libc5), libslang0.99.38 (libc6), >netbase, and netstd to the list of packages to install. > - changed 'unstable' to 'frozen' in var

Re: autoup.sh v0.25 released

1998-04-21 Thread Craig Sanders
BTW, i've also made some changes to my http://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup site. 1. updated autoup.tar.gz to have the latest versions of all the needed packages. 2. made it accessible as ftp://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup (some people requested this) 3. made a debfiles/ directory which

Re: autoup.sh v0.24 released (was Re: autoup.sh bug)

1998-04-21 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: > > dpkg: regarding .../base/dpkg_1.4.0.22.deb containing dpkg, pre-dependency > > problem: > > dpkg pre-depends on libstdc++2.8 > > libstdc++2.8 is not installed. You know, we should really include libstdc++2.8 on the base disks if this is now true.