--On Tue, Jun 2, 1998 11:18 am +1000 Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Raul Miller wrote:
The proper solution would be to fix the parser.
unfortunately, this means placing arbitrary restrictions on the
config filesanything which hasn't been programmed
On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 12:35:35AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
The formal SPR's are also a good way of documenting proposals,
I think that we should archive formal SPR's, and all the amendments
accepted, etc, so we do not ``forget'' the lofty goals in a few
months.
Also due to the
Hello
I am the maintainer from ts, the TeX-Shell.
Jens Poenisch (the upstream author) have make a new version and
move the copyright to GPL. :-)
But he use a html-library from Stephen Uhler, and he have not put the
copyright for this library in his tar.gz. So, I wrote a mail to Stephen.
Is this
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On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
A new mirror_2.9-1 is now on master. The copyright has changed (see below),
and should be fine with us. Or is the 'changes must be distributed as
patches' policy too restrictive for us?
It is allowed, as an
--On Tue, Jun 2, 1998 9:35 am +0100 Enrique Zanardi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Also due to the big number of developers and sub-projects inside of
the Debian project, it's hard to follow how every sub-project is going on
(what's going on with
--On Tue, Jun 2, 1998 10:54 am +0200 Michael Bramer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello
I am the maintainer from ts, the TeX-Shell.
Jens Poenisch (the upstream author) have make a new version and
move the copyright to GPL. :-)
But he use a html-library from Stephen Uhler, and he have not put
On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 05:24:10PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
if a program edits it too, it should do it in a way which does
not interfere at all with that human's right to put whatever s/he
desires in the file. if it can not guarantee that 100% then it
should not edit the file.
On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Rev. Joseph Carter wrote:
IMO, linuxconf should manage sendmail.mc rather than sendmail.cf.
That would be more reasonable, however not all that sendmail can do is
supported with the m4 rules and such. Not at the moment at least. Sendmail
is their selling point because
On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 11:14:45AM +0100, Jules Bean wrote:
The solution of course is to extend the m4 stuff to support all the things
linuxconf does, but that's not so easy. Also, note that slackware didn't at
last look have m4 sendmailconfig. Another example of where slackware is
doing
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am interested in something way more fundamental to the project than
the mere next release. Unless we thing beyond the next quarter, and
if we fail to make more or less radical changes, we are doomed to
repeat the pattern of past releases.
Yes.
On Fri, 29 May 1998, Philip Hands wrote:
Sorry, now I don't understand. I think we should release twice a year.
What about encouraging people to press ``Debian Unstable Snapshots''
once every couple of months.
We could do the snapshot images ourselves (so that everyone's ``May
98'' image
On Sat, 30 May 1998, Bdale Garbee wrote:
I had an interesting chat with one of my cohorts at work today about
this topic. We spent some time thinking about the various Debian
users we know, and tried to characterize what they want from the
distribution. What we came up with was the notion
Ok, I see their has been a lot of talk on if the way linuxconf does its
thing is good for debian.
first things first, a user doesn't have to use linuxconf. If a user wants
to edit the file by hand they can use the existing tools that we have. Even
those aren't perfect, if I edit my sendmail.cf
Sorry for not responding directly, I only get debian-devel-digest, so I can
only respond to what I catch.
I believe linuxconf will version every change that it makes, i.e. if you
make changes w/ linuxconf and see that it didn't work, you can go back to
your previous configuration or any one of
Hello all,
I have just installed dhcp-1.0.1-1 (replacing dhcp-1.0.0-3) and now
all my clients are unable to renew their leases. I deleted the old
dhcp-1.0.0-3 in my local mirror so I am unable to downgrade. Does
anyone keep an old package around that can send to me or put for FTP
somewhere?
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On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
Permission to modify the software is granted, but not the right to
distribute the modified code. Modifications are to be distributed as
patches to released version.
Mmm, wait a moment...
Does this mean
On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Jules Bean wrote:
So support the full grammar of the file.
debian currently has 1956 packages. most of them require a config file.
do you think having that many individual parsers is viable?
Ooh.. debian has 1956 packages. Do you think having that many postrm
On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Jules Bean wrote:
The solution of course is to extend the m4 stuff to support all the
things linuxconf does, but that's not so easy. Also, note that
slackware didn't at last look have m4 sendmailconfig. Another
example of where slackware is doing more harm than good
On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Rev. Joseph Carter wrote:
RE: sendmail.cf
IMO, linuxconf should manage sendmail.mc rather than sendmail.cf.
That would be more reasonable, however not all that sendmail can do is
supported with the m4 rules and such. Not at the moment at least.
anything you can
On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Craig Sanders wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Jules Bean wrote:
The solution of course is to extend the m4 stuff to support all the
things linuxconf does, but that's not so easy. Also, note that
slackware didn't at last look have m4 sendmailconfig. Another
example
On Mon 01 Jun 1998, Brandon Mitchell wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Bdale Garbee wrote:
: Are we releasing hamm for any other architectures? I've has a few request
: from new testers. Also who should they contact on architecture specific
: problems?
The debian-arch mailing lists, as in
On Sun 31 May 1998, Guy Maor wrote:
Would anybody object if I moved -dev files and associated
documentation to the libs section? The dev section is by far the
largest section and this would help reduce its size.
I think doc is about the same size as devel, if you take binary-all
into
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Brederlow writes:
Would that already be a correct Packages file or would dpkg and
similar scream about wrong entries? Could old dpkg's handle the new
entries?
It seems to work for me. Any entries that are not recognised are ignored
or passed through unchanged.
Hi,
Jules == Jules Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jules This sounds foolish to me.
Hmm, provocative words.
Jules The solution is to switch to a better designed mailer (exim
Jules springs to mind) with easier to manage configuration.
This seems to imply that linuxconfig
On 2 Jun 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Hi,
Jules == Jules Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jules This sounds foolish to me.
Hmm, provocative words.
Jules The solution is to switch to a better designed mailer (exim
Jules springs to mind) with easier to manage configuration.
Bdale Garbee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 1 June 1998 16:22:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
: Are we releasing hamm for any other architectures? I've has a few request
: from new testers. Also who should they contact on architecture specific
: problems?
I've installed an alpha and
Hi,
Shaya == Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Shaya Also, linuxconf shouldn't be used to configure a user's
Shaya personal information, such as .bashrc, .pinerc, those should
Shaya be left to either the program itself like in pine, or to a
Shaya package like the dotfile generator for a
Hi,
This new release is fresh code, and I won't pull out all the patches
we applied against mirror_2.8. Let me know if there is a feature in
2.8 that you really miss. I could make a 'retro' package mirror28 of
the old release.
The changelog for mirror 2.8-15 included:
* Applied
Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now about that hard one, what are we releasing this time[?]
m68k is certainly going to if I have anything to say about it.
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Rev. Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, May 28, 1998 at 01:12:25AM -0400, Gregory S. Stark wrote:
Oh, one gotcha to watch for. If you package Custom you really
ought to package Gnus as well and build it against the same
version of Custom.
Hi,
Well, there are a number of things, but the following are
important (in no particular order)
1) strong dependency tracking. Espescially with APT, the next
generation replacement for dselect, packages are unpacked in an
order that minimizes the time for which a package is
1) The document must be free but may require a change in the title for a
modified version (for example FSSTND would become Debians implementation
of the FSSTND or something without the acronym FSSTND at all).
2) Many authors don't want their work to be published out of their control.
This
Hello!
On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 09:19:11PM +0200, joost witteveen wrote:
The document authors already can enforce a lot of things, keeping the
document free:
[...]
I want to hear valid reasons why this is not enough before I even think
about non-free documents in main!
Uhm --
A new mirror_2.9-1 is now on master. The copyright has changed (see below),
and should be fine with us. Or is the 'changes must be distributed as
patches' policy too restrictive for us?
So here's the copyright:
Copyright _ 1990 - 1998 Lee McLoughlin
Permission to use, copy,
On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a wrote:
What are the main differences/advantages/disadvantages of
Debian's Packaging System vs The Other Guys (tm) ?
I would appreciate any help in sorting these out (I already have
So would we !
John Lapeyre [EMAIL
Hi,
I installed Debian 2.0 using installation disks 2.0.6 on Gateway2000 computer
(P2-166). First of thanks for the nice job in organising installations disks!
Everything went very smoothly, I did not have any major problems.
Well, I failed once when I did not realise that one should use
On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 03:59:22PM +0100, Jules Bean wrote:
yes, that's a perfect solution.for those who choose to use exim. it
does absolutely nothing at all for those who prefer to use sendmail.
True. But I was answering the suggestion (chopped, unfortunately, which
was foolish of
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW, the fact that you don't understand sendmail doesn't prevent others
from doing so.
The problem with sendmail isn't that it's difficult to understand, it's
that it rewrites headers, by default. This introduces a whole class of
rather subtle bugs that
On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 12:46:02PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Shaya Also, linuxconf shouldn't be used to configure a user's
Shaya personal information, such as .bashrc, .pinerc, those should
Shaya be left to either the program itself like in pine, or to a
Shaya package like the dotfile
On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 12:32:53PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Jules The solution is to switch to a better designed mailer (exim
Jules springs to mind) with easier to manage configuration.
This seems to imply that linuxconfig should drop support for
sendmail (which still is an
Hi,
while testing the base packages I hit the critical bugs surrounding the
update-passwd binary contained in base-passwd.
I want to introduce a -n flag to update-passwd which prints out the
proposed changes to /etc/passwd and /etc/group without actually
executing them (debug mode). I try to
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