Intent to Package

1999-01-18 Thread Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam
Hi All, I intent to maintain the webmagick (currently maintained by netgod), and ckermit (orphaned by Debian-QA). I have to apply to become a maintainer. Let me know if anyone else is working on these. Regards, Vaidhy

pending normal debian bugs for debian-devel@lists.debian.org

1999-01-18 Thread Nag
Maintainer: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Severity: normal Status: pending This mail is being sent to you because the indicated bug reports have been marked as overdue (i.e. has been open longer than 9 months). Overdue reminders are repeated monthly. #20099 general

Re: Intent to package: daemontools (and cdb)

1999-01-18 Thread Carey Evans
Tommi Virtanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I already packaged cdb as cdb-src (like qmail-src): Package: cdb Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: non-free/utils According to the README in the CDB archive, the CDB C source is public domain, so if you strip out the

Re: Intent to package: daemontools (and cdb)

1999-01-18 Thread Tommi Virtanen
On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 09:34:43PM +1300, Carey Evans wrote: According to the README in the CDB archive, the CDB C source is public domain, so if you strip out the docs, etc. you could put it in main. Yes. But as that doesn't cover even the manpages, or pedantically even the

Re: Intent to package: daemontools (and cdb)

1999-01-18 Thread Tommi Virtanen
On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 10:45:34AM +0200, Tommi Virtanen wrote: Also, Exim uses a GPL'ed CDB. From spec.txt.gz: . Support for the cdb (Constant DataBase) lookup method is provided by code contributed by Nigel Metheringham of Planet Online Ltd. which contains the following statements:

Re: help desired with interaction with inetd.conf

1999-01-18 Thread Martin Bialasinski
S == Shaleh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: S If all this is documented somewhere, please let me know. I S understand the basics of add this to inetd or disable this, but S switching foo out for bar I am not seeing. Check the *inst script of the ftp packages. They activate their daemon in favor

Re: what about Pine's license?

1999-01-18 Thread Bruce Sass
On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, M.C. Vernon wrote: On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Bruce Sass wrote: On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Pine is simpler to use, but it's a pity about the license. Go on, please. It's non-free - you can't distribute modified binaries. That is where Debian

Re: make mutt the `standard' mail reader

1999-01-18 Thread Alexander N. Benner
hi Ship's Log, Lt. Bruce Sass, Stardate 170199.0055: number of bugs in ...elm-me+ pinemutt --- [...] --- --- --- 2 5 44 Which one(s) would you look

autoconf/aclocal.m4/gtk-config issues - RF information

1999-01-18 Thread Jules Bean
Hi all, I've seen the edges of a few flamewars associated with autoconf/configure style scripts, and I'm wondering if anyone can point me to (or provide me with) arguments covering the following points: Given a 3rd-party library A, which includes header files, and a 3rd-party program B, which

Re: what about Pine's license?

1999-01-18 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 03:05:54AM -0700, Bruce Sass wrote: Go on, please. It's non-free - you can't distribute modified binaries. That is where Debian placed the Pine source - who says so? 'nuff said No. Yes. Permission not given in a license is DENIED. When UW was asked

Re: intent to package slashem

1999-01-18 Thread Peter Makholm
David Damerell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But it is MUCH buggier. Code under active development is always more buggier :) A .tgz of the source with the real filenames: ftp://chiark.greenend.org.uk/users/damerell/slashem/slamlinux042.tar.gz That is 2 versions out of date, and unlikely to be

Logo license update?

1999-01-18 Thread servis
The Debian logo license is expired. Is there a plan to update it or automatically roll it over again? Just curious, -- Brian Servis - Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time

Re: Intent to package wmx

1999-01-18 Thread Mark Ng
Mark Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: wmx is another window manager for X. It is based on wm2 and provides a similarly unusual style of window decoration; but in place of wm2's minimal functionality, it offers many of the features of more conventional managers in the most simplistic

Re: make mutt the `standard' mail reader

1999-01-18 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 17, Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would go for mutt, because it means people are actually using it and finding the bugs. (AND the bugs are going to be fixed, 12+3=15 resolved bugs in the last 28 days). And many of those bugs are feature requests. After adopting mutt in

Re: XFree86 hamm - slink upgrade 'dummy' package

1999-01-18 Thread Santiago Vila
On 15 Jan 1999, Ben Gertzfield wrote: Santiago == Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben Simply use the 'xbase' package name as the dummy package, Ben renaming what is currently 'xbase' in slink to xfree86-base. Ben Ben Then, the xbase package will be an Optional

Re: libpng gnome slink

1999-01-18 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Wed, Jan 06, 1999 at 05:08:36PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, Brian Almeida wrote: Because the Imlib maintainer (me) has a permanent hold on those packages in dselect :) Me too!! Yes. I second this. RedHat and others have already moved back. Let's not break all

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-18 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Martin Schulze wrote: Santiago Vila wrote: [...] There are in total *ten* dselect Dependency/conflict resolution screens. (using the PageForward key). Am I *really* required to report them *all*, or may I ask our kind ftp.debian.org maintainers to do a *serious*

Re: non-free -- non-dfsg

1999-01-18 Thread Brian Mays
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joey Hess) wrote: Hm, non-debian does have its good points. It has some potential problems, too. It could imply that the packages found there are not built by Debian volunteers, or that they do not adhere to Debian's policy standards, or that they are not supported by

Re: libpng gnome slink

1999-01-18 Thread Brian Almeida
On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 03:03:26PM +0100, Sven LUTHER wrote: and how the unfortunate of us who already have upgraded to 1.0.2 can downgrade, i see the 1.0.1 package nowhere ... bma !find libpng2 hamm dpkg bma: um, dists/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/libs/libpng2_1.0.0-0.1.deb what about latest gnome

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-18 Thread Martin Schulze
Santiago Vila wrote: There are in total *ten* dselect Dependency/conflict resolution screens. (using the PageForward key). Am I *really* required to report them *all*, or may I ask our kind ftp.debian.org maintainers to do a *serious* dependency/conflict check *before* the deep

Bug#32068: multicd can't reinstall removed package

1999-01-18 Thread Martin Schulze
- Forwarded message from Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Package: dpkg-multicd Version: 0.11 Severity: important I'm awfully sorry but apparently I have to file an important bug report against this pkackage (or dpkg?). It should be fixed before we release slink. First the symptoms:

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-18 Thread Santiago Vila
On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Martin Schulze wrote: Santiago Vila wrote: There are in total *ten* dselect Dependency/conflict resolution screens. (using the PageForward key). Am I *really* required to report them *all*, or may I ask our kind ftp.debian.org maintainers to do a

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-18 Thread Martin Schulze
Santiago Vila wrote: There are in total *ten* dselect Dependency/conflict resolution screens. (using the PageForward key). Am I *really* required to report them *all*, or may I ask our kind ftp.debian.org maintainers to do a *serious* dependency/conflict check

Re: Logo license update?

1999-01-18 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Mon, 18 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Debian logo license is expired. Is there a plan to update it or automatically roll it over again? Why not change it to a constantly rolling over license. The way I understand it, we have this license to prevent bad things from being done with

Intent to package: jikes

1999-01-18 Thread Ralf-Philipp Weinmann
Hello, I've been watching the debian-.* mailing lists for a couple of weeks now and would like to contribute something to the debian effort. I have already debianized some packages for my own use when .deb's weren't available and would like to give them back to the community. There's one package

Debian appears to be ancient

1999-01-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
It appears Debian is older then we though :). Look at the contents of /usr/doc/debian/base: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1197 Jan 1 1970 debian.README Wichert -- == This combination of bytes forms a message

Re: non-free -- non-dfsg

1999-01-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously David Welton wrote: Well, even if RMS doesn't care for it, you can pull out the Open Source definition, which is definitive and specific, and generally used as the benchmark for what 'free' is. You do know the OS definition is the same as the current DFSG, right? Wichert. --

Re: Logo license update?

1999-01-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Debian logo license is expired. Is there a plan to update it or automatically roll it over again? Now that we have the constitution we can just vote on the license so we don't have to extend it every couple of months. Wichert. --

Re: Debian appears to be ancient

1999-01-18 Thread Ben Pfaff
Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It appears Debian is older then we though :). Look at the contents of /usr/doc/debian/base: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1197 Jan 1 1970 debian.README No such file appears in my copy of Content-i386 from 28 Dec 1998. Where are you

Re: Intent to package: jikes

1999-01-18 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 16:14:59 +0100, Ralf-Philipp Weinmann wrote: There's one package in particular that I'd like to see in future debian releases, namely jikes (a rather fast Java compiler by IBM which is written in C++ An intent to package Jikes by Mike Goldman was announce in December;

Re: make mutt the `standard' mail reader

1999-01-18 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Sun, Jan 17, 1999 at 08:57:07PM -0500, Avery Pennarun wrote: The de-facto standard Internet tab size has always been 8 characters. Always? The 1982 standard for ARPANETĀ¹ email (RFC 822) explicitly states in Section 3.4.2 that there is no nework-wide standard tab size and so the use of HTAB

Re: what about Pine's license?

1999-01-18 Thread Peter S Galbraith
[1] ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/legal.txt Redistribution of this release is permitted as follows, or by mutual agreement: (a) In free-of-charge or at-cost distributions by non-profit concerns; (b) In free-of-charge distributions by for-profit concerns; (c) Inclusion in a

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-18 Thread Santiago Vila
On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Martin Schulze wrote: Santiago Vila wrote: There are in total *ten* dselect Dependency/conflict resolution screens. (using the PageForward key). Am I *really* required to report them *all*, or may I ask our kind ftp.debian.org maintainers to

Re: Comments on Debian packages and installation

1999-01-18 Thread Raul Miller
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote: Bleh. Can we /please/ move this to -devel? Done. On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 12:00:17AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: Also, in our social contract we say that packages in contrib are not a part of Debian, but then we go ahead and create official links

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-18 Thread Martin Schulze
Santiago Vila wrote: There are in total *ten* dselect Dependency/conflict resolution screens. (using the PageForward key). Am I *really* required to report them *all*, or may I ask our kind ftp.debian.org maintainers to do a *serious*

RE: Logo license update?

1999-01-18 Thread Darren Benham
That was the next issue I wanted to tackle after the proposed DFSG update. On 18-Jan-99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Debian logo license is expired. Is there a plan to update it or automatically roll it over again? --

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-18 Thread Santiago Vila
On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Martin Schulze wrote: What do you mean with send proper mails...? Do you mean that the text of Bug #29874 is improper in some way? I hope not. With proper I thought about mails to overrides-change like package foo needs to be priority extra since foo and bar

Re: Unmet Deps revisted

1999-01-18 Thread Martin Schulze
Santiago Vila wrote: package foo needs to be priority extra since foo and bar conflict and are both optional. Fine, but why should this be more quickly fixed than the same text sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] against ftp.debian.org? Both should be fine, the bug report should be even better. I

Re: libpng gnome slink

1999-01-18 Thread Stephen Crowley
On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 09:14:14AM -0500, Brian Almeida wrote: On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 03:03:26PM +0100, Sven LUTHER wrote: and how the unfortunate of us who already have upgraded to 1.0.2 can downgrade, i see the 1.0.1 package nowhere ... bma !find libpng2 hamm dpkg bma: um,

Re: non-free -- non-dfsg

1999-01-18 Thread David Welton
On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 03:13:09PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously David Welton wrote: Well, even if RMS doesn't care for it, you can pull out the Open Source definition, which is definitive and specific, and generally used as the benchmark for what 'free' is. You do know the

Re: Comments on Debian packages and installation

1999-01-18 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 12:27:59PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: So our goals are: * make a working, completely free system. ie, main. You're saying that the Suggests: links are not an official part of Debian? I'm saying that the Suggests: links don't force you to have a non-free system,

Re: what about Pine's license?

1999-01-18 Thread Bruce Sass
On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Peter S Galbraith wrote: [1] ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/legal.txt Redistribution of this release is permitted as follows, or by mutual agreement: (a) In free-of-charge or at-cost distributions by non-profit concerns; This sounds like Debian and

Re: Comments on Debian packages and installation

1999-01-18 Thread Jules Bean
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Anthony Towns wrote: [Thanks to anthony for a concrete list] Some of the other packages in this situation: rsync suggests ssh inn suggests pgp kbackup suggests pgp kbackup-doc suggests pgp (the documentation for KBackup) tm suggests

Re: Comments on Debian packages and installation

1999-01-18 Thread Raul Miller
Jules Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, MHO is: 1) Ban suggestions from main to non-free or contrib 2) Implement enhances for the last set of examples 3) Ditch the rest (well, the rest above). Lots of people aren't going to agree with me on this one... Personally, I'd say implement

Re: Intent to package: daemontools (and cdb)

1999-01-18 Thread Edward Betts
On Mon, 18 Jan, 1999, Tommi Virtanen wrote: On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 09:34:43PM +1300, Carey Evans wrote: According to the README in the CDB archive, the CDB C source is public domain, so if you strip out the docs, etc. you could put it in main. Yes. But as that doesn't cover even the

Re: Logo license update?

1999-01-18 Thread James A. Treacy
On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 03:27:50PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Debian logo license is expired. Is there a plan to update it or automatically roll it over again? Now that we have the constitution we can just vote on the license so we don't have

Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?

1999-01-18 Thread Christian Weisgerber
What's this LinuxTag thing? The largest German Linux user show. In fact, it is probably the largest Linux event in Europe. (If there is a larger one, we haven't heard of it.) Last year there were an estimated 1500 visitors. URL:http://www.linuxtag.org/. When and where? June 26/27,

Re: what about Pine's license?

1999-01-18 Thread John Hasler
From the pine license: (c) Inclusion in a CD-ROM collection of free-of-charge, shareware, or non-proprietary software for which a fee may be charged for the packaged distribution. Bruce writes: ... but it is ok to charge for a distribution if you are producing CD's. Unless those

looking for new italian translation coordinator

1999-01-18 Thread James A. Treacy
The current italian translation coordinator no longer has the time. We are therefore looking for someone to replace him. Being fluent in Italian would be an asset. :) If you are interested, contact me. To keep a translation project alive requires multiple people or the interest fails. If you are

Re: Debian booth at LinuxTag '99?

1999-01-18 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
Christian Weisgerber wrote: Because we, the organizers of LinuxTag '99, would like to invite the Debian project to set up a booth at this year's event. Several major Linux distributions will be there: SuSE, DLD, representatives for Red Hat, etc. Last year quite a few visitors expressed

Re: slink_cd v 1.02

1999-01-18 Thread Tom Lees
On Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 11:56:09AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: One thing you _will_ need to do to use the symlink-farm is use a patched mkhybrid that flattens things as it makes the ISO images. I've separated this patch out of a larger one by Tom Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the images I'm

Re: what about Pine's license?

1999-01-18 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Bruce Sass wrote: On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Peter S Galbraith wrote: [1] ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/legal.txt Redistribution of this release is permitted as follows, or by mutual agreement: (a) In free-of-charge or at-cost distributions by

Re: Comments on Debian packages and installation

1999-01-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 07:56:23PM +, Jules Bean wrote: 1) Ban suggestions from main to non-free or contrib 2) Implement enhances for the last set of examples 3) Ditch the rest (well, the rest above). Lots of people aren't going to agree with me on this one... Well, FWIW, actually I

TIGER data

1999-01-18 Thread Bruce Perens
I have the TIGER data ready to mail to Dale. This is the U.S. street map data which I am distributing under the GPL. It fit on 5 CDs rather than 6 after re-compression with bzip2. Thanks Bruce -- The $70 Billion US budget surplus hardly offsets our $5 Trillion national debt. The