On 15-Sep-99, 03:05 (CDT), Daniel Quinlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If the length of the PATH is a serious problem, we could potentially
> to make /opt/bin front-ends a requirement. However, you then have
> to solve (or at least ignore) the problem of potential namespace
> conflicts. Add-on app
On Wed 15 Sep 1999, Julian Gilbey wrote:
>
> Perhaps someone made a typo and closed the wrong bug?
It was apparently done by the maintainer, and no further response
from him. Curious.
Paul Slootman
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On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 12:23:24PM +0200, Anders Arnholm wrote:
> >>>Anthony Towns wrote:
> > > beacus some pepole in the Debian comunity does not have tha same
> > > problems...
> > STOP WRITING TO -devel AND START **DOING** SOMETHING ABOUT IT *
> The day I get my key sigh by a develop
Hi,
I'm not a debian developer yet (and seems like I won't even attempt till I
feel that new maintainers are welcome), but I just wanted to comment on
how a re-organization might be done.
First of all, I'd like to state that dpkg system is all very well thought.
Speaking of modularity, package m
On Wed 15 Sep 1999, Martin Schulze wrote:
>
> PS: I would appreciate its use as well, it sucks that some pkg's are
> rebuilding everything if one only is working on a patch in to one
> file
If all I'm doing is trying fix something, usually just invoking 'make'
will do it (or some subtle variation
On Wed 15 Sep 1999, Philip Hands wrote:
>
> I know there is some pathetic kudos about how many signatures you have
Is the "pathetic" part the reason why you don't have any? :-)
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On Tue 14 Sep 1999, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On 14 Sep 1999, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> > Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >Again, no it isn't. How do they know that someone didn't steal your pgp
> >key?=20
>
> > How is this different from the question ``How does dinstall (or othe
* Steve Lamb said:
> > Why is placing third-party bianary packages in /opt a bad thing?
>
> Because /opt is a duplication of an existing file structure which can
> serve the purpose more than adequately. What people are asking me is "what is
> wrong with /opt" when I am pointing out is that
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 01:01:18PM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote:
> I think his point is that if you can't trust a pgp signature to
> sign a gpg key, why should trust a pgp signature to do anything
> at all, e.g. accept an uploaded package. Seems like a reasonable
> argument.
Because the real user c
On Tue 14 Sep 1999, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 11:55:39PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> > Michael Stone wrote:
> > > Not really. What if the pgp key is compromised? The original owner can
> > > release a revocation certificate for the pgp key, but if someone creates
> > > a new
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 01:31:33PM +1000, Brian May wrote:
> - not sure you entirely believe bug report, but want to leave
> bug report open anyway, just in case. bug reports aren't
> always accurate, and it is possible that the reporter
> made a mistake, but cannot be verified as such
> by
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 01:31:33PM +1000, Brian May wrote:
> - forgetting the bug exists - does this occur?
I thought Brian White's occasional "nag" messages were very effective
in this case. However several developers threaten to resign if anyone
ever suggests they were a good idea on this list.
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 03:54:15PM -0500, Erick Kinnee wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 10:23:50PM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
> > No.
>
> Uhm, WTH is that about? No, what? No, they suck? No, don't standardize?
No, don't standardize.
> How about a better idea maybe?
If there were some
>>>Anthony Towns wrote:
>
> > beacus some pepole in the Debian comunity does not have tha same
> > problems...
> STOP WRITING TO -devel AND START **DOING** SOMETHING ABOUT IT *
The day I get my key sigh by a developer and I get som exctra time. I
can contribitute something. BUT STILL
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 02:31:30PM -0500, David Welton wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 10:23:50PM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 11:39:05AM -0700, David N. Welton wrote:
>
> > > Joey Hess' debhelper scripts are a good API, maybe it would be
> > > good to standard
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 12:03:42PM -0700, Darren Benham wrote:
> Well, we did it.
>
> The software used by Debian for it's bug tracking, debbugs, was pacakged for
> distribution several months ago and resides in Potato. Last weekend, Debian
> upgraded it's bug server (bugs.debian.org) to the save
>>>Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 10:00:02PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > As another sometimes Solaris and HP user, hear hear. If the only way
>
> What, you don't like this?
>
> /ato/extern/gnu/bin:/usr/hp64000/bin:/usr/broadband/bin:/usr/broadband/util:
>
> :-) Fro
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 04:01:42PM -0500, David Welton wrote:
> to function in a more standard way, so that you pretty much knew what
> was going on, without having to figure out whatever wierd specific
> system a particular maintainer has used.
Can you give an example of a non-standard rules file
Pardon if I'm quite late, but I'm not subscribed to debian-devel and I came
on this almost by chance.
On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 23:24:50 +0200, Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> How will u handle DNSSEC? Can you develop this part and the hooks outside
> the states, so we can put it on non-US?
Andrew Pimlott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 01:22:33PM +0900, Taketoshi Sano wrote:
> > btw, anyone tried my "extipl" package for potato ? I think it is
> > superior than current i386 "mbr" on features that it can boot up
> > the system on the other hard disk (if the OS in
Hi,
> For those who hate typing, I would recommend /usr/packages -> /usr/pak
/usr/pkg would be much better ;-)))
cu
gerhard
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(Linus Torvalds about the superiority of Linux on the Amsterdam
Linux Symposium)
I'm going to package the software used with the Planet Connect satellite
Usenet feed service. We've been using it for a while, but there was no
explicit copyright/license terms in the upstream sources. A new version is
in the process of being released, and the author has agreed to resolve this,
>>>Steve Lamb wrote:
> Considering one can install a fairly robust system (FreeBSD, Debian) over
> FTP/NFS in under an hour and it takes 2-3 to go through a gig of data I would
> much rather reinstall the programs and retrieve the relatively small data
> (/etc, btw, is data).
As long at th
>>>Steve Lamb wrote:
> Then why /home/ftp instead of /ftp?
Because ~ftp is as short as /ftp.
> Why /var/htdocs instead of /www?
Bacouase /var/htdocs is an error, the i.m.h.o. propper location is
/home/www, a.k.a. ~www
/ Balp
Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 09:21:22AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> > Are you saying that people should sign keys received via e-mail,
> > rather than face to face ?
> >
> > If so, I'm strongly against this.
>
> Why?
I'd have hoped that that was clear by
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 10:21:57AM +0200, Anders Arnholm wrote:
> > If you like FreeBSD... *USE FREEBSD*.
> You mean that if he likes the installation and flexibility of FreeBSD
> usit, ignore rthat Debian does have someother things that are better
> beacus some pepole in the Debian comunity
>>>Steve Lamb wrote:
> Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 3:14:37 PM, Federico wrote:
> > sysadmin) control, /opt is where third-party package builders (e.g.,
> > Corel, KDE, Cygnus, etc...) control.
> None of this describes one bit why it has to be a top level directory.
You may not like it, bu
>>>Steve Lamb wrote:
> Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 12:32:19 PM, Jonathan wrote:
> > I hate being FORCED to do an "install" when a "copy" is just as good and
> > saves far more effort. I duplicate hundreds of FreeBSD disks every month.
> > If only Linux was so easy.
>
> If you like Free
>>>Steve Lamb wrote:
> Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 1:45:46 PM, Marek wrote:
> >> Which would be for what reason?
> > When for example it is mounted on a cdrom as a live CD system. Enough?
>
> /usr/local, where you're going to keep local, custom builds of things, i
That are hopefully
>>>Steve Lamb wrote:
> domain of individuals who do not have a packaging system. Debian has a very
> strong packaging system so the separation is not needed.
Then could you please show me a way to share /usr/bin over nfs? I see
the need to install, the idea in /usr/share is that it should be
po
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I dunno about you, but that is the very definition of "spread out"
>> especially when you consider that {package} in /opt can be quite a
>> few. I'm disgusted with my path on my Solaris box at work. I
>> needed to add /opt/gnu/gimp/bin, /opt/gnu/gcc/bin
According to Ben Collins:
> > Or even simpler:
> >
> > test -f config.status || ./configure
>
> No, this case will cause the make to fail.
No it won't.
% false || true
% echo $?
0
Mike.
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On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:11:07 -0700, you wrote:
>Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 4:52:43 PM, Marc wrote:
>> IBTD. Backups are to get a crashed system up again _FAST_. And this
>> can be accomplished by dropping a single tape in.
>
>There comes a point where one loses more time restoring tape than f
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