Re: Looking for help with ftp archive

1999-09-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 08:28:25PM -0700, Guy Maor écrivait: > Hi, we're looking for somebody to help us with ftp maintainance by Hey guys, where are you ? Where are the people who criticized the ftpmaster about beeing too slow ? It's time to show that you can do better ... I /REALLY/ hope that

Re: Metapackages (was Re: Debian Weekly News - September 14th, 1999)

1999-09-16 Thread Adam Klein
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 10:52:31PM +, David Coe wrote: > Germano Leichsenring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > By the way, am I the only one grepping the "available" file?? > > No, and (for those of you who don't already know), there are > two nice packages that make doing so even easier and

Re: Metapackages (was Re: Debian Weekly News - September 14th, 1999)

1999-09-16 Thread David Coe
Germano Leichsenring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > By the way, am I the only one grepping the "available" file?? No, and (for those of you who don't already know), there are two nice packages that make doing so even easier and more useful: *grep-dctrl* allows you to extract entire package chunks

Re: New Debian Quality Assurance !

1999-09-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 08:36:00PM +0200, Matej Vela écrivait: > Perl runtime error (interpreter rc=255) Oops, forgot to add the www-data as a valid user for PostgreSQL. Jason just added it, it's corrected. > Nice work, BTW. I hope it will be useful (ie people will use this tool to do real wo

Re: GPG trusted signatures, dpkg-buildpackage & gpg

1999-09-16 Thread Joe Drew
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 04:36:22PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen Ray" wrote: > Of course this depends on one's level of paranoia. Using crypto wisely and > effectively is a matter of keeping one's paranoia high, but not reducing it > ad absurdum (how do you know I'm not an alien with space/time travel > tec

Re: Steve Haslam and Gnome in potato

1999-09-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 12:18:26PM -0700, Franklin Belew écrivait: > I'm not an official maintainer, but I have compiled gnome quite a bit, and > have looked at the packages. I'd be happy to help test and configure > new packages for 1.0.50. That's not what I said. Gnome 1.0.50 is not out. :) I

Re: Strategy: DNS server in main for potato?

1999-09-16 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 12:01:18PM +0200, Michele Bini wrote: > > How will u handle DNSSEC? Can you develop this part and the hooks outside > > the states, so we can put it on non-US? > You can't do that, because silly US exports rescrictions cover crypto-hooks, > too. But you can put other, generi

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-16 Thread Herbert Xu
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 10:57:54AM -0700, John Lapeyre wrote: > > homey 38 > make 'CC=gcc272' zImage gcc272 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 > -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -m486 -malign-loops=2 > -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -c -o init/main.o > init/main.c herber>-

Re: Metapackages (was Re: Debian Weekly News - September 14th, 1999)

1999-09-16 Thread Joe Drew
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 05:11:10PM +0900, Germano Leichsenring wrote: > > By the way, am I the only one grepping the "available" file?? Nope. I too find it necessary when I don't want to connect to the debian website. =)

Re: Steve Lamb in my killfile.

1999-09-16 Thread Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Jonathan Walther wrote: > > : Will someone please notify me when Steve Lamb becomes a reasonable person. > : As of 2 minutes ago, all mail from him is being sent to /dev/null by > : procmail. > > Notification will be on the 11

fds_bits

1999-09-16 Thread Paul Harris
hi again, thanks Ray for the netinet-includes tips: that bit is compiling nicely now :) now, i'm having problems with some fds_bits thingy. what is it used for and where is it defined? i thought it was in sys/types.h, but the compiler doesn't seem to see the declaration (little ambiguous to me).

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-16 Thread Anders Arnholm
>>>Steve Lamb wrote: > How are you going to get the data on to the drive without a minimum > installation on it in the first place? Booting in a way that lets you restore the data with out having to install the system. What you need depends on the kind backup you have. In the most simple

Re: (g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-16 Thread Eric Weigel
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:54:11 +0200 (CEST), Piotr Roszatycki wrote: >No no, it isn't mc script but only function in your ~/.bash_profile or >global /etc/profile. > >I'm afraid many people have some kind of function or aliases related >to _real_ mc binary and current mc wrapper can broke it. > >BTW

Re: ITP: xracer

1999-09-16 Thread Filip Van Raemdonck
Joe Drew wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 05:21:42PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > > > Yes, Mesa exists in main, which is good, but the Glide-compiled packages > > > don't, which means no hardware acceleration. > > > Is there any chance of getting glx in potato? > > > > So build against Mesa and

Re: Increasing regularity of build systems

1999-09-16 Thread Matthias Klose
Michael Alan Dorman writes: > "David N. Welton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Hi, while working on the ARM port, I've begun to become frustrated > > with the IMO, not entirely necessary diversity in our "rules" files. > > I agree with this. And I think debhelper is of enourmous value. I

Re: Steve Lamb in my killfile.

1999-09-16 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Jonathan Walther wrote: : Will someone please notify me when Steve Lamb becomes a reasonable person. : As of 2 minutes ago, all mail from him is being sent to /dev/null by : procmail. Notification will be on the 11:00 news right after "Hell Freezes Over" and "Monkeys Fly O

Re: Hosed system during package build

1999-09-16 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Ben Collins wrote: > On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 04:38:56PM +, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > This is a first for me! As you may have noted from earlier postings, I > > have been working on a source build process for distribution construction. > > During the build of one of the sourc

Re: Hosed system during package build

1999-09-16 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Ben Collins wrote: > On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 11:21:17AM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > > > "Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Dale> I'm going to take my time "recovering" from this, as there > > Dale> are things still on hda1 that I am like

Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: Re: Deficiencies in Debian]

1999-09-16 Thread Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Raul Miller wrote: > > Thursday, September 16, 1999, 10:50:57 AM, Raul wrote: > > > Um.. you're just not lazy enough... > > > # cd /usr/local/bin > > > # ln -s /usr/bin/perl > > On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 11:42:21AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > ln -s `which perl` /usr/local/bin

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Jonathan Walther
I agree, Netherlands is probably best option. It has to be easier to get into than the US. While my work Visa is in process, I don't dare cross the border from Canada for fear it will influence my application negatively. On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Joseph Carter wrote: > It'd be kinda nifty to do it in

Re: Steve Haslam and Gnome in potato

1999-09-16 Thread Franklin Belew
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 02:02:06PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hi everybody, > > does anybody know if Steve Haslam is still with us (is he in holidays ?) ? > Because he's the maintainer of gnome-core and gnome-libs but source those > packages are not very well maintained. There are some RCB an

Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: Re: Deficiencies in Debian]

1999-09-16 Thread Raul Miller
> Thursday, September 16, 1999, 10:50:57 AM, Raul wrote: > > Um.. you're just not lazy enough... > > # cd /usr/local/bin > > # ln -s /usr/bin/perl On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 11:42:21AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > ln -s `which perl` /usr/local/bin/perl You're confusing keystroke time with character c

Re: linux includes / inet includes

1999-09-16 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 02:44:47 +0800, Paul Harris wrote: > hi, i'm trying to fix up vrweb, and if successful will apply for adoption > and all that (already talked to the original maintainer). > > anyway, the current problem is the conflict between the linux includes and > debian's netinet inclu

Re: Hosed system during package build

1999-09-16 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 11:21:17AM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > > "Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Dale> I'm going to take my time "recovering" from this, as there > Dale> are things still on hda1 that I am likely to want saved. Any > Dale> helpful hints abo

linux includes / inet includes

1999-09-16 Thread Paul Harris
hi, i'm trying to fix up vrweb, and if successful will apply for adoption and all that (already talked to the original maintainer). anyway, the current problem is the conflict between the linux includes and debian's netinet includes: /usr/include/linux/byteorder/generic.h:150: previous declaratio

Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: Re: Deficiencies in Debian]

1999-09-16 Thread Steve Lamb
Thursday, September 16, 1999, 10:50:57 AM, Raul wrote: > Um.. you're just not lazy enough... > # cd /usr/local/bin > # ln -s /usr/bin/perl ln -s `which perl` /usr/local/bin/perl -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main

Re: Hosed system during package build

1999-09-16 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 04:38:56PM +, Dale Scheetz wrote: > This is a first for me! As you may have noted from earlier postings, I > have been working on a source build process for distribution construction. > During the build of one of the source packages, the system "went away". What kernel

Re: New Debian Quality Assurance !

1999-09-16 Thread Matej Vela
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 07:13:46PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > We will feed the task list from now on. The only thing you have to > do is to subscribe to debian-qa and to visit regulary the web site to > select a task to do. :-) When I go to , and click on `#1',

Re: Question on grep 2.3-5 for potato

1999-09-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Steve Greenland wrote: > I just looked into this -- they are all the same size, but a diff shows > that they are different. A check into the changelog.Debian shows that > they no longer check argv[0], and need to be seperate programs. Indeed. The GNU coding style dictates this (a progra

Re: GPG trusted signatures, dpkg-buildpackage & gpg

1999-09-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Joel Klecker wrote: > Pardon me? In what manner is it broken? -sgpg shouldn't be necessary. I've fixed that in my sourcetree (soon to be in the CVS as well). Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes forms a m

Re: libc6 is too large?

1999-09-16 Thread Michael Meskes
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 07:36:50AM -0700, Joel Klecker wrote: > >It's because the maintainer decided to go against the policy and not strip > >the libraries. This has already been reported as a bug against > >libc6 (#40467). > > Learn the fucking difference between strip --strip-debug and strip

Re: Hosed system during package build

1999-09-16 Thread tony mancill
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Dale Scheetz wrote: > Upon rebooting the system, I got told that there was no console device, so > I rebooted to my "emergency" slink system. (My normal development system > is on hda1, with hda2 for swap, and hda3 for the slink system) > > /dev contained the empty directory

Re: Hosed system during package build

1999-09-16 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dale> I'm going to take my time "recovering" from this, as there Dale> are things still on hda1 that I am likely to want saved. Any Dale> helpful hints about how to keep such things from happening Dale> in the future would be

help

1999-09-16 Thread Unknown
Necesito material de la organizacionde archivos de IBM 390, please!!

Re: history (Was Re: Corel/Debian Linux Installer)

1999-09-16 Thread Steve Greenland
On 16-Sep-99, 11:23 (CDT), David Bristel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With this in mind, I think that having a configuration variable for > apt that would allow the downloaded .deb files to be put in a user > defined place. This way, if your /var is close to being full, you > could, for example, d

Re: Increasing regularity of build systems

1999-09-16 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 06:36:47PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: (B> Klee had an interesting idea on this, that makes more sense I think. If (B> you look at all the different kinds of programs that are being packages (B> you notice that a lot of them fall into quite well-defined categories (B>

Re: Binary Deb 'Diffs'

1999-09-16 Thread Daniel Burrows
Perfect timing, I was just going to prod debian-devel about this over the weekend.. On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 12:56:04PM -0400, Jordan Mendelson was heard to say: > > Just a quick idea, instead of having to download an entire package where 95% > of the files don't change, what about downloading a

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-16 Thread John Lapeyre
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Herbert Xu wrote: herber>John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: herber>> herber>> Hmm. Well my two potato systems are slightly different. One just herber>> compiled 2.0.36 with the patch. But the other one failed with the herber>> message herber>> fixed or forbidden r

Re: history (Was Re: Corel/Debian Linux Installer)

1999-09-16 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* "David" == David Bristel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David> With this in mind, I think that having a configuration variable David> for apt that would allow the downloaded .deb files to be put in David> a user qdefined place. apt-get -o APT::Dir::Cache="/home/me/download/" upgrade should do it I

Re: (g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-16 Thread Piotr Roszatycki
On 16 Sep 1999, Philip Hands wrote: > Wait a second. > > So this mc script is an attempt to leave you in the directory you were > in when you left mc ? > > Well that won't work will it? > > Try running this: > > cd /tmp; ( cd /etc; pwd ); pwd No no, it isn't mc script but only function in

Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: Re: Deficiencies in Debian]

1999-09-16 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 07:51:47AM +0200, Anders Arnholm wrote: (B> You mean having to dive into almost every perl script (not Linux (B> developed) and change #!/usr/local/bin/perl to #!/usr/bin/perl, (B (BUm.. you're just not lazy enough... (B (B# cd /usr/local/bin (B# ln -s /usr/bin/perl

Re: Binary Deb 'Diffs'

1999-09-16 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 16 Sep, Jordan Mendelson wrote about "Binary Deb 'Diffs'" > > Just a quick idea, instead of having to download an entire package where 95% > of the files don't change, what about downloading a type of binary diff? I can > think of two ways to do it: > > 1) Package everything in a type of 'p

Re: (g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
* Piotr Roszatycki said: > On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Marek Habersack wrote: > > > > mc() { > > if [ -x /usr/bin/mc ]; then > > MC=$(/bin/mktemp /tmp/mc.XX) > > /usr/bin/mc -P "$@" $MC > $MC > > cd $(cat $MC) > > rm -f $MC > > fi > > } > > I think the more simple is: > > mc=()

Re: (g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
* Philip Hands said: > Wait a second. > > So this mc script is an attempt to leave you in the directory you were > in when you left mc ? [snip] > /etc > /tmp > > the ``cd /etc'' only applies in the shell executed in the brackets. > The same goes for the mc script. Any effect of the cd in the

Re: GPG trusted signatures, dpkg-buildpackage & gpg

1999-09-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Philip Hands wrote: > Seems recent to me. Ah, I vaguely remember James saying he wouldn't update my key since it made gpg crash or so.. lets hope that bug is fixed by now! > Looks like you've not uploaded it to debian or anywhere else since > getting those signatures. The keyservers c

Re: (g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-16 Thread Piotr Roszatycki
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Marek Habersack wrote: > > mc() { > if [ -x /usr/bin/mc ]; then > MC=$(/bin/mktemp /tmp/mc.XX) > /usr/bin/mc -P "$@" $MC > $MC > cd $(cat $MC) > rm -f $MC > fi > } I think the more simple is: mc=() { cd $(/usr/bin/mc -P "$@") } ... an

Hosed system during package build

1999-09-16 Thread Dale Scheetz
This is a first for me! As you may have noted from earlier postings, I have been working on a source build process for distribution construction. During the build of one of the source packages, the system "went away". Upon rebooting the system, I got told that there was no console device, so I reb

Re: GPG trusted signatures, dpkg-buildpackage & gpg

1999-09-16 Thread Philip Hands
Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [1 ] > Previously Philip Hands wrote: > > Given that this key only seems to have been signed by Ray Dassen and > > itself > > Did you update your keyring recently? I have a bit more signatures: sheikh:~$ dpkg -l debian-keyring Desired=Unknown/Inst

Re: Question on grep 2.3-5 for potato

1999-09-16 Thread Zygo Blaxell
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:02:48 -0400, Chris Gorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I was wondering if grep/fgrep/egrep are meant to be seperate programs >or, hard links to one binary? If I take a long listing of the *ep files >in /bin, they are all 47616 bytes, but they all only have one file >link. Do

Re: (g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-16 Thread Philip Hands
Wait a second. So this mc script is an attempt to leave you in the directory you were in when you left mc ? Well that won't work will it? Try running this: cd /tmp; ( cd /etc; pwd ); pwd and you'll get /etc /tmp the ``cd /etc'' only applies in the shell executed in the brackets. The s

Re: Question on grep 2.3-5 for potato

1999-09-16 Thread Steve Greenland
On 16-Sep-99, 10:02 (CDT), Chris Gorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering if grep/fgrep/egrep are meant to be seperate programs > or, hard links to one binary? If I take a long listing of the *ep files > in /bin, they are all 47616 bytes, but they all only have one file > l

RFP/ITP: MasqMail

1999-09-16 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
MasqMail (http://merlin.uni-sw.gwdg.de/~okurth/masqmail/) is a free MTA targetted at small networks/single hosts without a permanent internet connection: "MasqMail is a mail server designed for hosts that do not have a permanent internet connection eg. a home network or a single host at h

Binary Deb 'Diffs'

1999-09-16 Thread Jordan Mendelson
Just a quick idea, instead of having to download an entire package where 95% of the files don't change, what about downloading a type of binary diff? I can think of two ways to do it: 1) Package everything in a type of 'pdeb' (patch deb). It should contain reconfiguration information, and files w

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Christian Meder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Cool idea. But would it help Debian except of being a big social > developer event ? Sometimes social functions can lead to increased cooperation. Plus there's the opportunity to discuss technical issues in a perhaps more interactive medium. Mike.

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Steve Greenland wrote: > > Is this idea worth pursuing? > > It's a neat idea, and I'd sure like to meet my fellow Debianers, but > I doubt you'll get anybody to pay for it. What about Corel? They're getting a /lot/ from Debian (basing their dist on it), and while I'm sure th

Re: history (Was Re: Corel/Debian Linux Installer)

1999-09-16 Thread David Bristel
With this in mind, I think that having a configuration variable for apt that would allow the downloaded .deb files to be put in a user defined place. This way, if your /var is close to being full, you could, for example, drop it into a temporary directory on /home for the upgrade. This isn't the

Re: Looking for help with ftp archive

1999-09-16 Thread Jim Ziegler
This does not sound like fun, but it sounds necessary. How much time commitment is required? Must "somebody" already be a maintainer? On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Guy Maor wrote: > Hi, we're looking for somebody to help us with ftp maintainance by > If this sounds like fun, reply to this email. > >

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-16 Thread Steve Lamb
Thursday, September 16, 1999, 3:23:25 AM, Marek wrote: >> How are you going to get the data on to the drive without a minimum >> installation on it in the first place? > Geez (that's your favorite expression, ain't it?) - you really don't know > what backups are for. I know what they are f

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-16 Thread Brian Bassett
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, John Lapeyre wrote: >chris>Yeah, 2.7.2.* is the canonical compiler for 2.0 kernels. Can you >chris>post what's actually going wrong? > I could. The system hangs when I tar and gzip a large directory. I >get no OOPS or any message in any log. It is hard to see what is >hap

Re: More pam_limits trouble

1999-09-16 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 05:09:05PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > * Ben Collins said: > > > > > Hmmm...looking at the source, it wont accept a line with less than 4 > > > > arguments, > > > > yet you are correct that the documentation say otherwise. Let me work > > > > on this. > > > > I'll hav

Re: More pam_limits trouble

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ben Collins said: > > > Hmmm...looking at the source, it wont accept a line with less than 4 > > > arguments, > > > yet you are correct that the documentation say otherwise. Let me work on > > > this. > > > I'll have it fixed in the next upload. > > I have attached a quick (and untested - I di

Re: More pam_limits trouble

1999-09-16 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 04:49:59PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > * Ben Collins said: > > > > It accepts only, e.g.: > > > > > > grendel - cpu [digit] > > > > > > Which is of no use, because setting the limit to 0 doesn't mean disabling > > > it... Any advice? :) > > > > Hmmm...

Question on grep 2.3-5 for potato

1999-09-16 Thread Chris Gorman
Hello, I was wondering if grep/fgrep/egrep are meant to be seperate programs or, hard links to one binary? If I take a long listing of the *ep files in /bin, they are all 47616 bytes, but they all only have one file link. Do you know if they are supposed to be one binary, and the functionality o

Re: (g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
* Martin Bialasinski said: > Marek> /etc/csh.cshrc (and possibly other global shell startup > Marek> scripts) an alias definition, or a function to call mc in a way > Marek> which would preserve the exit path of mc? > > No, directly changing files part of other packages is not allowed by > policy

Re: More pam_limits trouble

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ben Collins said: > > It accepts only, e.g.: > > > > grendel - cpu [digit] > > > > Which is of no use, because setting the limit to 0 doesn't mean disabling > > it... Any advice? :) > > Hmmm...looking at the source, it wont accept a line with less than 4 > arguments, > yet you

Re: history (Was Re: Corel/Debian Linux Installer)

1999-09-16 Thread Alexander N. Benner
Hi Ship's Log, Lt. Steve Dunham, Stardate 160999.0113: > > /var 96M > > BTW, your /var might not be big enough to handle an upgrade from slink > to potato. (Depending on whether the source of the packages is net or > CD, I think.) > That's right, but I think it might be more a 'bug' in apt-ge

Re: (g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-16 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* "Marek" == Marek Habersack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marek> Also, wouln't it be cleaner if the postinst for this package Marek> added an appropriate alias to the /etc/profile and/or Marek> /etc/csh.cshrc (and possibly other global shell startup Marek> scripts) an alias definition, or a functio

Re: libc6 is too large?

1999-09-16 Thread Joel Klecker
At 23:06 +1000 1999-09-16, Herbert Xu wrote: It's because the maintainer decided to go against the policy and not strip the libraries. This has already been reported as a bug against libc6 (#40467). Learn the fucking difference between strip --strip-debug and strip --strip-unneeded, you clueless

Re: GPG trusted signatures, dpkg-buildpackage & gpg

1999-09-16 Thread Joel Klecker
At 14:39 +0200 1999-09-16, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I also noticed that the gpg-support is in dpkg-buildpackage is currently broken. Pardon me? In what manner is it broken? -- Joel Klecker (aka Espy)Debian GNU/Linux Developer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mailto:[EMAI

Re: GPG trusted signatures, dpkg-buildpackage & gpg

1999-09-16 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 00:02:10 +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > Given that this key only seems to have been signed by Ray Dassen and > itself, Even with the updates Wichert mentions, the web of trust for Debian GPG keys is still a lot sparser than the PGP one. I've pointed out one possible approach

Re: More pam_limits trouble

1999-09-16 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 03:53:06PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > Hi, > > The pam_limits module refuses to disable limits as described in the docs. > It refuses to parse lines like: > > grendel - > > (where dash is separated with one or more spaces/tabs) - it reports 'invalid > line' for such

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Christian Meder
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 10:05:52PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Is this idea worth pursuing? Cool idea. But would it help Debian except of being a big social developer event ? Apart from the organizational problems it would only make sense if there's a track of technical talks about mostly internal

Re: GPG trusted signatures, dpkg-buildpackage & gpg

1999-09-16 Thread Peter Makholm
Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Perhaps we should change that so gpg will be used by default if > $HOME/.gnupg/secring.gpg exists? Anounce it first and wait some time. I have a $HOME/.gnupg/secring.gpg but my key isn't in the debian keyring (yet). -- I congratulate you. Happy gol

ITP: mdate

1999-09-16 Thread DarkeMane Industries
mdate is funky mayan date program . ummm, I'll have a test package up tonight sometime on http://www.debian.org/~darke/mdate-1.0.0beta3-1_i386.deb its under the GPL and i'll be putting it in the games section (would this mean i install it under /usr/games ? Peter Crystal/darkewolf pgpt7Y7kQ

cannot lftp to master

1999-09-16 Thread Michael Meskes
Does anyone know what's going on here: lftp :~> debian Password: cd ok, cwd=/debian2/private/project/Incoming lftp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/debian2/private/project/Incoming> ls -l rsh* -rw-r--r-- 1 herbert Debian 26838 Sep 5 09:47 rsh-client_0.10-1_i386.deb -rw-r--r-- 1 herbert Debian

More pam_limits trouble

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
Hi, The pam_limits module refuses to disable limits as described in the docs. It refuses to parse lines like: grendel - (where dash is separated with one or more spaces/tabs) - it reports 'invalid line' for such entries. It accepts only, e.g.: grendel - cpu [digit] Which is o

Re: GPG trusted signatures, dpkg-buildpackage & gpg

1999-09-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Philip Hands wrote: > Given that this key only seems to have been signed by Ray Dassen and > itself Did you update your keyring recently? I have a bit more signatures: pub 1024D/2FA3BC2D 1998-07-05 Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sig2FA3BC2D 1998-07-05 Wichert Akkerman <

Re: GPG trusted signatures, dpkg-buildpackage & gpg

1999-09-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Joe Drew wrote: > Also, I think I read something about dpkg-buildpackage automatically > choosing gpg when you haven't got a .pgp/secring.pgp - I haven't got > one, but it still chooses PGP anyways. What's up? (My pgp keyrings > are in the ~/.gnupg directory) Weird. Is $HOME correct for

Re: switching from PGP to GNUPG -- HOWTO?

1999-09-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Joseph Carter wrote: > Install gpg-rsaref. Please only do that if you live in the US or Canada. The rest of us need gpg-rsa. Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes forms a message written to you by Wichert

Re: Steve Haslam and Gnome in potato

1999-09-16 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If nobody is willing to do it, I'll do it myself. I'm willing to _help_. I worry that as one works on resolving these things, one will discover that there's cascading upgrades required... Mike.

(g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
Hi, I've just upgraded the gmc to the latest potato version, but it still has the broken /usr/bin/mc script which calls itself recursively. Also, wouln't it be cleaner if the postinst for this package added an appropriate alias to the /etc/profile and/or /etc/csh.cshrc (and possibly other global

Re: man preprocessor different than on Red Hat?

1999-09-16 Thread Peter S Galbraith
I wrote: > In the preparation of a package, I've come up against a man page > made for Red Hat that doesn't process correctly for Debian (at > least on slink). > > The man page defines a table [...] This is solved. Zack Weinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> told me to add this line at the very top of t

Re: libc6 is too large?

1999-09-16 Thread Piotr Roszatycki
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Herbert Xu wrote: > > Version: 2.1.2-1 > > Installed-Size: 4469 > > > It is increased about 3MB! > It's because the maintainer decided to go against the policy and not strip > the libraries. This has already been reported as a bug against libc6 > (#40467). Yes, but libc6

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Russell Coker
>> Wouldn't it be great if all the debian developers could be flown in to a >> convention site, get to meet each other, really tighten up the gpg web of >> trust, attend talks by developers, discuss important issues in person, and >> so on? It would really make us more of a community. > >You've bee

Re: libc6 is too large?

1999-09-16 Thread Herbert Xu
Piotr Roszatycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From slink: > Version: 2.0.7.19981211-6 > Installed-Size: 1458 > and from potato: > Version: 2.1.2-1 > Installed-Size: 4469 > It is increased about 3MB! > I think it is not good for minimal distribution (console on > small HDD, libraries without loc

Re: Could someone to package php4?

1999-09-16 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 01:04:01PM +0200, Piotr Roszatycki wrote: > > PHP4 has already beta release. Could someone to package it? > > > > I have doubts about license - "The PHP License, version 2.01", > > but I think it is "free license". > > > > >

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-16 Thread Herbert Xu
John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hmm. Well my two potato systems are slightly different. One just > compiled 2.0.36 with the patch. But the other one failed with the > message > fixed or forbidden register 2 (cx) was spilled for class CREG, This means that you're not using gcc27

Re: debian O'Reilly book cover is up

1999-09-16 Thread Stevie Strickland
Am Mit, 15. Sep, 1999 schrieb Joey Hess: > Steve Dunham wrote: > > All of their Linux books use a rodeo/cowboy theme rather than the > > traditional animal theme. I have no idea why. I kinda prefer the > > animals, but maybe they were running out? > > Well I always though it was supposed to be s

Re: Could someone to package php4?

1999-09-16 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 01:04:01PM +0200, Piotr Roszatycki wrote: > PHP4 has already beta release. Could someone to package it? > > I have doubts about license - "The PHP License, version 2.01", > but I think it is "free license". > > Just as long as php3 doesn't get nuked out of the distro.

problems autobuilding perl-5.004

1999-09-16 Thread Dale Scheetz
I've built a shell script that runs from a list, extracts source from the archives, builds the source, and installs the binary packages into a target CD archives. I have been able to build several packages with this script, but when I got to perl-5.004 the build dies in the configure stage with th

GnuPG *Sub-Keys* for signing ?

1999-09-16 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello Is it possible to import the old RSA key to gpg, and then create a D/g subkey for signing. This would leave my signatures in the private keyfile but allowes me to sign with a non RSA key. read you, -christian- -- Christian Hammers WESTEND GmbH Tel 0241/701333

Steve Haslam and Gnome in potato

1999-09-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi everybody, does anybody know if Steve Haslam is still with us (is he in holidays ?) ? Because he's the maintainer of gnome-core and gnome-libs but source those packages are not very well maintained. There are some RCB and many, many bugs. I've mailed him last week but got no answer. (check http

Re: history (Was Re: Corel/Debian Linux Installer)

1999-09-16 Thread Clint Adams
> BTW, one great thing about Linux is, fsck is incredibly fast compared to BSD > :-) You haven't seen soft-updates on FreeBSD, have you?

Re: APRIS GNU/LINUX EXPO UPDATES. (need debian Logo).

1999-09-16 Thread Jeff Teunissen
Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > Previously Frederic CELLA wrote: > > can i send to them ? (this one the fisrt page of www.debian.org) > > The webpage has a postscript version of the logo iirc. This should make > it trivial for them to produce a 300dpi logo (or whatever other > resolution they desire)

libc6 is too large?

1999-09-16 Thread Piotr Roszatycki
>From slink: Version: 2.0.7.19981211-6 Installed-Size: 1458 and from potato: Version: 2.1.2-1 Installed-Size: 4469 It is increased about 3MB! I think it is not good for minimal distribution (console on small HDD, libraries without locale, timezone info, nss, etc.) -- Piotr "Dexter" Roszatyck

Could someone to package php4?

1999-09-16 Thread Piotr Roszatycki
PHP4 has already beta release. Could someone to package it? I have doubts about license - "The PHP License, version 2.01", but I think it is "free license". -- Piotr "Dexter" Roszatycki mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Metapackages (was Re: Debian Weekly News - September 14th, 1999)

1999-09-16 Thread Laurent Martelli
> "Martin" == Martin Bialasinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> * "Laurent" == Laurent Martelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Martin> wrote: Martin> * "Stephane" == Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Martin> wrote: Laurent> It would also be nice to be able to select the packages on

Re: Metapackages (was Re: Debian Weekly News - September 14th, 1999)

1999-09-16 Thread Laurent Martelli
> "SB" == Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: SB> On Thursday 16 September 1999, at 2 h 3, the keyboard of Laurent SB> Martelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> very nice, but how will uninstallation be handled ? Will you be >> able to uninstall all the packages of a metapack

Re: Packages for adoption

1999-09-16 Thread Taketoshi Sano
Hi. I am now using and prefer the asclassic, and since knghtbrd (the maintainer) and joel (he is another applicant for asclassic) agreed to my succession, I take it over. Thanks. In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph Carter) writes: > [1 ] > I have a few packages which are

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
* Steve Lamb said: > > or /usr/opt, you are implicitly violating the license, since computer Baz > > has the same /usr tree as Bar. But, when opt is at /opt, it is not shared > > and such hassles can be avoided (of course, it can be even more easily > > avoided by staying away from non-free softwar

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