On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Thomas Schoepf wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, David Weinehall wrote:
Thus we are free to distribute even a patched Pine,
No! Anyone is allowed to _locally_ modify Pine, but there's no statement
about distributing such modified versions. And Redistribution of this
i am working on packages for gtkbitchx (a gtk/zvt version of the irc client
bitchx) and smurflog (icmp smurf attack logger). if there is any interest
or anyone else is doing this, please notify me.
thanks,
-steve
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On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 06:24:05PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
If something supports X it should be compiled with X. This means exactly
two packages (xlib6g and xfree86-common) are also required, but they're
I beg to disagree. If the binary in question is not essantial for the
package
Seth R Arnold wrote:
The install program will scan the list of installed programs, and for each
package that Provides: service, it will offer a choice of which to configure
by default.
FWIW, debconf will soon be able to do this, though it cannot yet.
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Hi all,
Do we have a table/chart somewhere that explains which
Architectures use which endianness? Gpart has incomplete
support for endianness, the beginnings of which are
implemented as shown below; it behaves as if only i386
and alpha are little-endian --is that true?
Thanks.
/*
*
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 02:13:58AM +, David Coe wrote:
Do we have a table/chart somewhere that explains which
Architectures use which endianness? Gpart has incomplete
support for endianness, the beginnings of which are
implemented as shown below;
IMHO, gpart should check the endianess
On Sep 29, David Coe wrote:
Do we have a table/chart somewhere that explains which
Architectures use which endianness? Gpart has incomplete
support for endianness, the beginnings of which are
implemented as shown below; it behaves as if only i386
and alpha are little-endian --is that true?
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 06:04:21PM -0400, Johnie Ingram wrote:
David Redistribution of binary versions is further constrained by
David license agreements for incorporated libraries from third
David parties, e.g. LDAP, GSSAPI.
Hm, what happened to this text:
Although the above
I have put up a new way to enter your location information, it is a PGP
signed mail gateway at [EMAIL PROTECTED] It can actually change quite
a few things, but for the moment I am only announcing the ability to set
location and contact information :
The server is line oriented much like [EMAIL
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 10:05:52PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
I've been thinking about this for a while, but it always seemed like a crazy
idea. But it seems other people were thinking about it too, and others like
the idea, so I had better post about it.
I really like this idea. I had the same
It looks like floppyd is the only thing that needs X. (It's pretty
scary, from the man page -- yes, it's a tribute to debian packaging
tools that I didn't notice this extra component in the upstream
release, I'll be more procedurally careful about that...)
Correction: mtools in slink does *not*
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 06:08:48PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
Correction: mtools in slink does *not* depend on anything but libc6, so
there is still time to do it, cleanly.
Maintainer, please do it.
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 12:28:08PM -0500, David Starner wrote:
...
First, I believe this
no, but it should be pretty obvious from the description. e.g. a pop
server package is going to install a pop server. a web server package is
going to install a web server. etc. this should be self-evident.
True, but don't forget the case of an initial install - you pick some
profile, and
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 04:23:22PM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
Then we'll have to agree where we register docs. I have the
following directories on a fresh potato system (with few packages):
/usr/share/doc/HTML/
/usr/doc/HTML/
And they are _not_ symlinks. They get created by
I have a small network @Home and use dhcp to dole out the ip's, I use
the dhcp-dns package so that I can refer to these boxen by name and so
that various network utilities will work. Recently I've started getting
emails to root from Cron saying update packet failed. I know that dhcp-dns
uses the
But I don't see the need to *package* large ascii files. What would be
I do see one value, as evidenced by the doc-rfc package: apt-get
update means I don't have to keep track of it, I *always* have the
latest version close at hand. In otherwords, the packaging is an
encoding of some human
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 01:18:43AM +0200, David Weinehall wrote:
I suggest one of the guys on Debian-legal makes contact with UW and asks
for their consent to distribute a Pine vx.yDebian binary. I do believe
them to be pretty reasonable.
Or you could.
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P.S. you made this suggestion
[about a flat-file installation tool].
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 07:58:02PM +0200, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
If you make such a tool and people start to use it on a large scale, you'd
better be sure you get the package dependencies right.
The context was data files which have no particular
*But* in this case, it seems hard to avoid. As I understand it, the
*whole* mtools package makes 'parasitic' use of the X protocol
Point of information: only floppyd itself is linked against any X
library. The others, which *doing* clever things with xauth tokens
[according to the docs, I
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 12:52:16AM -0400, Mark W. Eichin wrote:
no, but it should be pretty obvious from the description. e.g. a pop
server package is going to install a pop server. a web server package is
going to install a web server. etc. this should be self-evident.
True, but don't
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 12:58:08AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a small network @Home and use dhcp to dole out the ip's, I use
the dhcp-dns package so that I can refer to these boxen by name and
so that various network utilities will work. Recently I've started
getting emails to
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 01:18:43AM +0200, David Weinehall wrote:
Furthermore, there is NO clause explicitly forbidding distribution of
modified versions
This is irrelevant. What matters is whether we are explicitly *allowed*
to distribute.
Copyright defaults to all rights reserved.
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Am 28.09.99 schrieb joey # kitenet.net ...
Moin Joey!
JH No. A http daemon will never follow this symlinks. They#re 100% useless
JH when using the http protocol.
JH Balderdash. http://www.apache.org/docs-1.2/mod/core.html#options
Somebody told me Debian includes more than one http daemon -:).
Am 28.09.99 schrieb roland # spinnaker.de ...
Moin Roland!
RR installation process? There#re two better solutions: 1) All programs use
RR the same file format.
RR Okay, simply change dhelp to use the doc-base directly and were are done.
ROTFL, why should I change dhelp to support a broken
Hi all,
man-db 2.3.10-69j is hitting the mirrors.
I consider this as a pre-2.3.12 , which I want to release before the
freeze.
It contains a relevant change from the previous versions as
/etc/manpath.config is no more a conffile.
A script will upgrade it to FHS leaving the previous file as
Ok, let's bring this back to implementation. How would you propose we
handle
this? Currently daemons install, set themselves up, and begin running.
d) have something that keeps track of installed services, perhaps with
priorities akin to alternatives. If there weren't an issue of
portsentry is a daemon that listens for port scans (also stealth scans)
and is able to disconnect and remember the attacking hosts in real-time.
It uses ipchains for disconnecting and tcp wrappers for preventing hosts
from further connections.
Please look at
ok. i just don't think it's as big a deal as some people do. more to the
point, i think that doing the opposite (i.e. not enabling services by
default when a package is installed) will cause even more problems (and
confusion and hassle) to everyone else.
i.e. there's a tiny minority who are
logcheck runs periodically and checks the system logs for unusual and
alerting events. These are reported to the administrator by email.
The logcheck package is suggested by portsentry.
Please look at http://www.psionic.com/abacus/logcheck for more
information.
I have also a beta version of the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Budde) writes:
Am 28.09.99 schrieb roland # spinnaker.de ...
RR installation process? There#re two better solutions: 1) All programs use
RR the same file format.
RR Okay, simply change dhelp to use the doc-base directly and were are done.
ROTFL, why should I
Piotr Roszatycki wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Johnie Ingram wrote:
David Redistribution of binary versions is further constrained by
David license agreements for incorporated libraries from third
David parties, e.g. LDAP, GSSAPI.
Although the above trademark and copyright
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 08:25:00PM +0100, Marco Budde wrote:
ROTFL, why should I change dhelp to support a broken file format?
How is the doc-base file format broken?
Please tell me what for do we need doc-base?
It's a useful abstraction over specific documentation systems.
In fact the
Rene Mayrhofer writes:
portsentry is a daemon that listens for port scans (also stealth scans)
and is able to disconnect and remember the attacking hosts in real-time.
It uses ipchains for disconnecting and tcp wrappers for preventing hosts
from further connections.
Please look at
I'm packaging tkpgp, from munitions.vipul.net archive. The upstream maintainer
doesn't want reveal his real name and wants only tftp as name and an email
address. The package is release under GPL.
Is this possible?
Thanks,
Christian
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On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 03:51:37PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 12:52:16AM -0400, Mark W. Eichin wrote:
True, but don't forget the case of an initial install - you pick some
profile, and get lots of stuff, with no hints. (In this case, I like
they idea of a debconf
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 10:25:32AM +0200, Rene Mayrhofer wrote:
PS: I have a written statement from the author that distribution with
Debian is permitted.
Why do you need such a statement? Doesn't the original license permit
distributing modified versions?
I could be wrong, but AFAIR if Debian
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 01:55:47PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote:
...
From http://linuxmafia.com/debian/tips (and based on some
suggestions by yours truly):
pico can be emulated by a symbolic link to the simple editor ae,
which is really very close to pico:
cd /usr/local/bin
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 04:31:05AM -0500, Francois Gurin wrote:
Minimun hassle/inconvenience is mutually exclusive of minimum harm.
Looking at the example set forth by some of the other distributions
(and more than a few operating systems), the reduced hassle of
installation and
Matthew Vernon wrote:
Rene Mayrhofer writes:
portsentry is a daemon that listens for port scans (also stealth scans)
and is able to disconnect and remember the attacking hosts in real-time.
It uses ipchains for disconnecting and tcp wrappers for preventing hosts
from further
Thomas Schoepf wrote:
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 10:25:32AM +0200, Rene Mayrhofer wrote:
PS: I have a written statement from the author that distribution with
Debian is permitted.
Why do you need such a statement? Doesn't the original license permit
distributing modified versions?
I
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 12:18:01PM +0200, Christian Surchi wrote:
I'm packaging tkpgp, from munitions.vipul.net archive. The upstream
maintainer doesn't want reveal his real name and wants only tftp as name
and an email address. The package is release under GPL.
Is this possible?
The
Marco Budde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ROTFL, why should I change dhelp to support a broken file format?
Can you give a short summary where the doc-base format is broken?
Sorry, I didn't read debian-doc so I didn't know what the problem is.
Please tell me what for do we need doc-base? We need a
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 12:45:18AM -0400, Mark W. Eichin wrote:
It looks like floppyd is the only thing that needs X.
I'm not sure it *is* better to fork things off; that's a fair amount
of hair for one isolated program.
Maybe not - it wouldn't be the first nor the last 50kb large Debian
Hi.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], I wrote:
Is it possible to add
INPUT TYPE=reset value=reset
button on the edit your info page ?
Because I use Netscape Navigator to access encrpyted page currently,
but it has some difficulties to handle the input form page.
I have found last
Hello,
I'm almost ready to upload a new release of PCCTS. It is based on a
new
upstream version in addition to containing some bug fixes. Also, the
upstream source now also includes sorcerer and is seems appropriate
to
include sorcerer as part of PCCTS. The questions that I have are:
1. Who
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 09:32:56PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote:
On Sep 29, David Coe wrote:
Do we have a table/chart somewhere that explains which
Architectures use which endianness? Gpart has incomplete
support for endianness, the beginnings of which are
implemented as shown below; it
* Marco == Marco Budde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marco the libc maintainer closed such a bug report without adding
Marco support for these programs. This is not a good sign for
Marco Debian#s quality.
glibc-doc_2.1.2-4 uses doc-base.
Ciao,
Martin
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 08:25:00PM +0100, Marco Budde wrote:
Please tell me what for do we need doc-base?
To piss off people like you of course.
Shaking my head in despair.
Marcus
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On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Ed Petron wrote:
I'm almost ready to upload a new release of PCCTS. It is based on a new
upstream version in addition to containing some bug fixes. Also, the
upstream source now also includes sorcerer and is seems appropriate to
include sorcerer as part of PCCTS. The
Sorry to interrupt the flamew^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hdiscussion here, but I have a
quick question.
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 12:01:22PM +, Roland Rosenfeld was heard to say:
One again: they are *not* accessible via these symlinks!
They are.
Well, maybe. (see below)
This may work sometimes
Your example implies that doc-base's install-docs is at fault for
creating files under either /usr/doc/HTML or /usr/share/doc/HTML
instead of files in a single place, with a /usr/doc/HTML -
/usr/share/doc/HTML symlink. Am I correct? Or did I miss
something?
In that case, shouldn't the bug go
I've also packaged portsentry:
http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/
Sean Perry and me contacted the upstream maintainer and he is currently
reconsidering the
license. Maybe we can join efforts?
Guido Guenther
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I've also packaged portsentry:
http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/
Sean Perry and me contacted the upstream maintainer and he is currently
reconsidering the
license. Maybe we can join efforts?
We should definitely do
Raul Miller wrote:
Send a copy of /var/lib/dpkg/info/status to the apt folks.
To hide the problem, you can do:
dpkg --configure --pending
apt-get -f install
A few instances of `dpkg -i perl-*' finally got it installed.
Thanks
Peter
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, David Weinehall wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Dale Scheetz wrote:
[snip]
Guys, guys, guys... This is a discussion that was had quite a while ago,
and which lead to the creation of xlib6. The whole point was that it was
unnecessary glut to include a console version
Thomas Schoepf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 12:18:01PM +0200, Christian Surchi wrote:
I'm packaging tkpgp, from munitions.vipul.net archive. The
upstream maintainer doesn't want reveal his real name and wants only
tftp as
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 04:32:08PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
Thomas Schoepf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 12:18:01PM +0200, Christian Surchi wrote:
I'm packaging tkpgp, from munitions.vipul.net archive. The
upstream maintainer doesn't want reveal his real name and
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 03:35:41PM +, Dale Scheetz wrote:
mtools, it's only one single file; a daemon (floppyd, if I'm not all
wrong) that needs xlib6g. It'd be simple to extract this daemon from
mtools and create an extra package with just this file, and make this file
recommended by
On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Daniel Burrows wrote:
This may work sometimes but not always - hack.
ctte decided, that this has always to work. If it doesn't, this
is a bug in the package.
I assume that I can't start filing bugs against the ~116 packages
on my system (eg, libc6) that moved
On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
Your example implies that doc-base's install-docs is at fault for
creating files under either /usr/doc/HTML or /usr/share/doc/HTML
instead of files in a single place, with a /usr/doc/HTML -
/usr/share/doc/HTML symlink. Am I correct? Or did I miss
Excerpts from debian: 29-Sep-99 Re: Packages should not Con.. by Craig
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IMO that's the price you pay for saying install a whole bunch of random
stuff i haven't personally selected. if you cared, you'd take the time
to vet all selections yourself.
In the initial install, is it
* Laurel == Laurel Fan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Laurel install)? The install program and the docs say skip the
Laurel Select step of dselect... Does it mean skip it because you
Laurel will confuse the installer or you should skip it because
Laurel it's already done?
The second is correct.
On 29-Sep-99 Rene Mayrhofer wrote:
portsentry is a daemon that listens for port scans (also stealth scans)
and is able to disconnect and remember the attacking hosts in real-time.
It uses ipchains for disconnecting and tcp wrappers for preventing hosts
from further connections.
Please look
it's an either/or situation (i.e. no way of satisfying both parties
Actually, it isn't -- there's an easy way of giving users a choice,
and two people have suggested it already (debconf). This seems to be
the most Debianish way to handle it - technologically superior, and
avoids punishing one
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 12:18:01PM +0200, Christian Surchi wrote:
I'm packaging tkpgp, from munitions.vipul.net archive. The upstream
maintainer doesn't want reveal his real name and wants only tftp as name
and an email address. The package is release under GPL.
Is this possible?
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 02:26:41PM -0400, Rick wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Staffan Hamala wrote:
I've noticed when installing Debian that the installer always shrinks
my swap partition to 128MB, so I have to do a swapoff;mkswap -v1 ..;swapon
manually afterwards. Also, the message that it
Marco Budde wrote:
Am 28.09.99 schrieb joey # kitenet.net ...
Moin Joey!
JH No. A http daemon will never follow this symlinks. They#re 100% useless
JH when using the http protocol.
JH Balderdash. http://www.apache.org/docs-1.2/mod/core.html#options
Somebody told me Debian includes
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 02:29:55PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote:
Ok, let's bring this back to implementation. How would you propose we
handle
this? Currently daemons install, set themselves up, and begin running.
a) we can prompt.
b) we leave everything off and let the admin turn it on
I hope this is not a foolish question. I have looked at the
FAQ and the Debian web page, but I haven't found the answer.
What's the best way to get a current copy of unstable for installation
on a single, not-very-well-connected machine?
I have a slink installation, and I don't want to upgrade
e) Let update-inetd handle this. This might not be enough for standalone
servers like apache and roxen but it would work with a pop3 server -
update-inetd -add should notice that there is already a valid entry enable
with that service and add the new entry with a hash mark.
Not enough.
the aleph-* packages have Priority: optionnal, which is, well, wrong.
Mike.
getdents is documented in manpages-dev (and used to work) but isn't
in libc6. What's the deal?
Mike Stone
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On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 04:11:08PM -0400, Bill White was heard to say:
Is it possible to upgrade from slink to potato using a 56k modem connection?
If it takes 650Mb to upgrade everything it is not possible. If it is,
my problems are solved, of course.
Thanks.
If you pay for
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 01:08:31PM -0400, Laurel Fan wrote:
Excerpts from debian: 29-Sep-99 Re: Packages should not Con.. by Craig
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IMO that's the price you pay for saying install a whole bunch of
random stuff i haven't personally selected. if you cared, you'd
take the
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 02:27:45PM -0400, Mark W. Eichin wrote:
it's an either/or situation (i.e. no way of satisfying both parties
Actually, it isn't -- there's an easy way of giving users a choice,
and two people have suggested it already (debconf). This seems to be
the most Debianish
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 04:30:45AM -0500, Francois Gurin wrote:
Minimun hassle/inconvenience is mutually exclusive of minimum harm.
Looking at the example set forth by some of the other distributions
(and more than a few operating systems), the reduced hassle of
installation and
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 06:38:55AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
The fantasy is over--WELCOME TO REAL LIFE! It turns out that some
people install linux without preexisting knowledge of how to securely
administer a unix machine.
sorry, it's you who needs to wake up to the real world.
if people
I will not, due to circumstances beyond my control, be returning to
work for perhaps as long as six months. I must hand off the XEmacs
21 project.
On master.debian.org in ~karlheg/src/ is a tar file with TODAY's
fresh CVS repository archived in it. That should be installed on
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