Re: ITW/P: freecati

1999-10-04 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 08:13:02AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: even opt-out lists are the wrong solution...because they don't work very well (especially when usage of them is optional). telephone pests should be limited to calling ONLY an opt-in list, people who are willing to receive

Re: doom source GPL'd

1999-10-04 Thread Andre Majorel
At 13:17 1999.10.03 -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 12:41:51PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: It looks like the doom source is now under the GPL. (http://www.doomworld.com/). This clears up the previous licencing problems that were keeping it out of debian. It will still be fit

Re: slink - potato

1999-10-04 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 09:57:12AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: As far as I know, leaving inetd accepting connections would, worst case, fail -- which is no different from having the service disabled. In other words, I don't see that disabling the daemon solves anything useful. On Mon, Oct

Re: bash package removing /bin/sh on upgrade

1999-10-04 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 02:10:45AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: (What is the problem with --rename, btw? I'm curious, and dpkg-divert is horribly underdocumented) From dpkg-divert --help: --rename causes dpkg-divert to actually move the file aside (or back). There's no reason to remove the

ITP: buglist?

1999-10-04 Thread Thomas Schoepf
Hi, this is a perl script I've written, because I was fed up with manually fetching bug reports and storing them into a directory structure so that browsing still works. Now, when I type 'buglist -r -d ~/debian/Bugs less', all reports regarding 'less' are saved into ~/debian/Bugs, structured as

Re: Debian membership (with a twist)

1999-10-04 Thread Yves Arrouye
[This long approval times may be desired by Debian because there are already too many developers and packages.] This may be correct. I can't judge. But it seems to me that if some- one volunteers time and effort to the project, common courtesy demands /at least/ an autoreply acknowledging

Re: ITW/P: freecati

1999-10-04 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 08:13:02AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: it may be an important tool, but that doesn't give you or anyone else the right to pester people in their own homes. it really does no good to apologise or even to promise not to call back - by that time, the damage has been

Re: Suggestion: binfmt_misc handling

1999-10-04 Thread Brian May
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: Basically what you can do is create a directory called /etc/binfmt_misc and put a bunch of files in it; each file should be a series of lines where each line is a directive for the binfmt_misc registration file in /proc. So the incantation for Java is:

Re: ITW/P: freecati

1999-10-04 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 01:02:55AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 08:13:02AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: even opt-out lists are the wrong solution...because they don't work very well (especially when usage of them is optional). telephone pests should be limited to

Re: doom source GPL'd

1999-10-04 Thread Edward Betts
Andre Majorel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please by all means use the latest semi-public beta (no link from the home page) http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/yadex/yadex-1.1.0.tar.gz. Yadex 1.0.1 is severely obsolete. Now that I'm done with DeuTex, I hope to resume work on Yadex and release v1.1.1

Re: slink - potato

1999-10-04 Thread Herbert Xu
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 07:06:10PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 08:15:54AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: I think the worst case would be a telnetd linked with a broken shlib (or in the case of telnetd, perhaps a missing or broken /usr/lib/telnetd/login) that gives a

Re: ITW/P: freecati

1999-10-04 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 07:29:15PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 08:13:02AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: it may be an important tool, but that doesn't give you or anyone else the right to pester people in their own homes. it really does no good to apologise or even to

Re: ITP: buglist?

1999-10-04 Thread Joey Hess
Thomas Schoepf wrote: this is a perl script I've written, because I was fed up with manually fetching bug reports and storing them into a directory structure so that browsing still works. Now, when I type 'buglist -r -d ~/debian/Bugs less', all reports regarding 'less' are saved into

files of blas1-dev and lapack-dev overlap

1999-10-04 Thread Matthias Klose
Package: blas-dev Package: lapack-dev The files /usr/lib/libblas.{a,so} are in both packages. Since lapack-dev was there first, blas1-dev should not use this name. On the other hand, I like the separation of blas in a separate package. The lapack maintainer doesn't care about the lapack packages

Re: Suggestion: binfmt_misc handling

1999-10-04 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 09:37:02AM +1000, Brian May was heard to say: Packages such as Wine, Kaffe, dosemu, and perhaps Frotz would drop a file into this directory announcing their support of a binary format. The files wouldn't actually be interpreted unless this init.d script is installed;

Re: ITP: buglist?

1999-10-04 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 05:35:11PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: Thomas Schoepf wrote: this is a perl script I've written, because I was fed up with manually fetching bug reports and storing them into a directory structure so that browsing still works. Now, when I type 'buglist -r -d

Re: slink - potato

1999-10-04 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 08:15:54AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: I think the worst case would be a telnetd linked with a broken shlib (or in the case of telnetd, perhaps a missing or broken /usr/lib/telnetd/login) that gives a security hole. If you wish to minimise downtime, the proper way

Re: ITW/P: freecati

1999-10-04 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Oct 04, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: cold calls are annoying regardless of their purpose. sales calls are especially annoying, but that doesn't excuse academic or market research surveys. Yes. What I find acceptable are snail mail surveys. Those can be easily ignored, and are paid by the

Re: slink - potato

1999-10-04 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Herbert Xu wrote: On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 07:06:10PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 08:15:54AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: I think the worst case would be a telnetd linked with a broken shlib (or in the case of telnetd, perhaps a missing or broken

Re: doom source GPL'd

1999-10-04 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 12:57:35AM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: I would also love to see the following utilities packaged : [..] At this rate we are going to need a tasks-doom Recommends: doom-wad | doom-wad-editor Who needs a tasks-doom? =p I'm unsure whether Doom hacking utils can go

Re: slink - potato

1999-10-04 Thread Yves Arrouye
As for the discussion, APT actually has such a feature cleverly undocumented and unmentioned - if you flag a package as Impotant: then its downtime is minizimized by the ordering code. Speaking of ordering, there's some bad catch 22 happening when you deinstall a bunch of packages at the same

Re: How not to be a nice person (Was: Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality)

1999-10-04 Thread Fabien Ninoles
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 03:10:23PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 09:06:59PM -0500, The Doctor What wrote: On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 08:47:20PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: In short, a summary (admittedly from my point of view) follows: In a discussion on whether network

Re: bash package removing /bin/sh on upgrade

1999-10-04 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 07:09:14PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 02:10:45AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: (What is the problem with --rename, btw? I'm curious, and dpkg-divert is horribly underdocumented) From dpkg-divert --help: --rename causes dpkg-divert to actually

Re: Debian membership (with a twist)

1999-10-04 Thread Yves Arrouye
b) give the Project Leader the ability to stop stupid things like the /usr/doc - /usr/share/doc debate, and just pick an option. That's been the case at some point. Isn't it true anymore? c) Accept all new-maintainer applications, now. Accept future applications immediately. Allow bad

Debian Buisness Cards

1999-10-04 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
Hi, I have done some improvements to the Debian buisness card tex files that are floating around. My changes are at http://www.debian.org/~jgg. The rundown is that I sized and made available the bottle version of the logo, adjusted the PGP key font/spacing, reordered some text and put much

Re: slink - potato

1999-10-04 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Yves Arrouye wrote: As for the discussion, APT actually has such a feature cleverly undocumented and unmentioned - if you flag a package as Impotant: then its downtime is minizimized by the ordering code. packages that conflict with them. An example is moving from the

Re: xplanet project - volunteers sought

1999-10-04 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Randolph Chung wrote: 2) more importantly though, xplanet uses imlib, which requires a X display to run. This means that we can't generate the map easily from a non-interactive script (like a crontab or something) Would someone be interested/willing to look at the

Re: new maintainer *must* reopen

1999-10-04 Thread Federico di Gregorio
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 03:08:01AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote: Therefore I request the DPL shall request the new-maintainer team ought to either fulfill their duties or else step down from new-maintainer. Moreover, the size of the team (currently 2, AFAIK) ought to be expanded to at least 4.

Re: Corel/Debian Linux Installer

1999-10-04 Thread Rob Browning
Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The two most compelling reasons to carve a single drive into little partitions are space management and mounting /usr readonly. On a single user workstation neigther are very important, and for alot of servers they are not important either. Having

Re: How not to be a nice person (Was: Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality)

1999-10-04 Thread Staffan Hamala
On Sun, 03 Oct 1999, Raul Miller wrote: Ok, try this on for size: How many network services do you get if you are doing if you decide to install cfs? How many if you decide to install crossfire-sounds? [Aside: obviously there's a difference between not accepting a connection and

Re: Suggestion: binfmt_misc handling

1999-10-04 Thread Brian May
2. Suggestion: Would it be possible to somehow integrate this with /etc/mailcap, which already has good support in packages? There are different ways you could do this, eg have in the config file lines that look like: :Java:M::\xca\xfe\xba\xbe::application/x-java:

Re: Little FAQ for users and maintainers

1999-10-04 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 12:56:56PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: And don't forget Replaces: foo ( new-version), that's what it's there for---files moving from one package to another! Don't use replaces unless you're sure you need it. Partial replaces have some strange effects in certain

Re: Debian membership (with a twist)

1999-10-04 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 03:36:23PM -0400, Decklin Foster wrote: b) give the Project Leader the ability to stop stupid things like the /usr/doc - /usr/share/doc debate, and just pick an option. The Technical Committee is authorised to pick an option, if it is asked to do so. The DPL has the

Re: slink - potato

1999-10-04 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Herbert Xu wrote: If anyone has seen an existing connection die, please report that as a bug. what against? internet ?? The issue is more about connectivity stability. Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: Reupload to ftp.uni-erlangen.de

1999-10-04 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Andreas Tille wrote: On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Santiago Vila wrote: You may use a *.commands file to remove the unwanted files. This is explained in the README in the UploadQueue directory. Which directory is that? ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/Linux/debian/UploadQueue I

Re: Debian membership (with a twist)

1999-10-04 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sunday 3 October 1999, at 4 h 46, the keyboard of Yves Arrouye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this has been a topic recently, but I really wonder how long it takes to get a membership. Is it something that can be estimated at least? No. In the mean time, you can: - ask for a sponsor

Re: slink - potato

1999-10-04 Thread Herbert Xu
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 09:36:36PM +1300, Michael Beattie wrote: On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Herbert Xu wrote: If anyone has seen an existing connection die, please report that as a bug. what against? internet ?? My message was about telnetd getting killed, so of course it would be against

Re: ITW/P: freecati

1999-10-04 Thread Curt Daugaard
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 10:12:50AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: snip me or find another public forum more to your tastes. if what i say is objectionable to enough other people then it is i who will have to find a forum which tolerates me. Since you offered, and since I am a part of this

WHEN do you upload to grep and sed with multi-byte extension?

1999-10-04 Thread Ryuichi Arafune
Hello Mr. Wichert Akkerman, One month ago, I asked you to apply multibyte extension patch to grep and sed and to upload them, to upload grep-ja and sed-ja (by me) instead. However there is no uploading them. Why? You said in debian-devel@lists.debian.org (archive/latest/43648) `release

Re: slink - potato

1999-10-04 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
packages that conflict with them. An example is moving from the 1.1.2 KDE packages to the 2.0 ones, eg. from kdebase to kdebase-cvs etc. USing dselect and APT, what happens is that somehow installation of the new packages is tried first, and fails, and then deinstallation does not

Need help for GPG

1999-10-04 Thread Philippe Troin
I'm trying to use GPG for signing my debian packages... I've successfully created my new GPG secret key, and when I list my keys and signatures, I get: % gpg -v --list-sig [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: Warning: using insecure memory! pub 1024D/6EAF7F87 1999-10-04 Philippe Troin [EMAIL

linking binfmt_misc with mime-types

1999-10-04 Thread Edward Betts
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing that comes to mind, is to implement a mini-program (unless it already has been written) that takes two parameters, eg run-mime-type text/html /path/to/file.html That would automatically parse /etc/mailcap and do the `right' thing, for the

Re: linking binfmt_misc with mime-types

1999-10-04 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi, On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 12:26:18PM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: Are we proposing that all mime-types have binfmt_misc setup? Does that mean, the kernel will be able to `run' any file in mailcap? Is that what we really want? I am neither fore, nor against this idea. On the one hand it

Re: linking binfmt_misc with mime-types

1999-10-04 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 12:26:18PM +0100, Edward Betts was heard to say: Could I clarify some stuff please? Are we proposing that all mime-types have binfmt_misc setup? Does that mean, the kernel will be able to `run' any file in mailcap? Is that what we really want? I'm not; I just

Re: [Re: Orphaned packages?]

1999-10-04 Thread Marcelo Magallon
wmaker-data yours wmaker-usersguideyours wmavgloadJosip Rodin's wmload Josip Rodin's wmmail Josip Rodin's

Re: ITP: buglist?

1999-10-04 Thread Thomas Schoepf
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 09:13:56PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: On the same subject I invite everyone to test out getbugs which is at http://www.debian.org/~bcollins/getbugs.pl. It's a Net::LDAP script that This needs a direct connection, right? I'm behind a firewall :( Thomas -- GnuPG:

Re: ITP: buglist?

1999-10-04 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 12:08:13PM +0200, Thomas Schoepf wrote: On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 09:13:56PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: On the same subject I invite everyone to test out getbugs which is at http://www.debian.org/~bcollins/getbugs.pl. It's a Net::LDAP script that This needs a direct

Re: bash package removing /bin/sh on upgrade

1999-10-04 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 01:58:07PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: One benefit always moving it has, is that it tests all code paths on upgrade (including the add a /bin/sh symlink) which makes it more likely to catch any bugs while we're still working on potato. I don't see how this makes

Re: Debian membership (with a twist)

1999-10-04 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 09:31:42PM -0700, Yves Arrouye wrote: b) give the Project Leader the ability to stop stupid things like the /usr/doc - /usr/share/doc debate, and just pick an option. That's been the case at some point. Isn't it true anymore? The DPL has this ability. In this

Re: Need help for GPG

1999-10-04 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Philippe Troin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And finally, anyone knows if I can integrate gpg with Gnus ? Mailcrypt should work with gpg, I believe (just converted myself, haven't tested). Mike.

Re: files of blas1-dev and lapack-dev overlap

1999-10-04 Thread Oleg Krivosheev
On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Matthias Klose wrote: Package: blas-dev Package: lapack-dev The files /usr/lib/libblas.{a,so} are in both packages. Since lapack-dev was there first, blas1-dev should not use this name. On the other hand, I like the separation of blas in a separate package. second

LZW patent (was: SSH never free)

1999-10-04 Thread Nick Moffitt
Quoting Bob Nielsen: Does anyone know when the LZW patent expires? According to http://www.patents.ibm.com/details?pn=US04558302__ it was awarded on June 20, 1983. This means that it will expire on June 20 or 21, 2003. -- ((lambda (x) (list x (list (quote quote) x))) (quote (lambda

Re: Debian membership (with a twist)

1999-10-04 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 10:54:53AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: [I think the policy group is waiting on Manoj, and I think Manoj is on vacation or some such.] Manoj is not the only policy editor. The full list is this: 1. Michael Alan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. Richard Braakman

Re: ITP: buglist?

1999-10-04 Thread Thomas Schoepf
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 05:35:11PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: Thomas Schoepf wrote: this is a perl script I've written, because I was fed up with manually fetching bug reports and storing them into a directory structure so that browsing still works. Now, when I type 'buglist -r -d

Re: ITP: buglist?

1999-10-04 Thread Thomas Schoepf
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 09:29:58AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: This needs a direct connection, right? I'm behind a firewall :( I'm using it behind a firewall, not sure how yours is configured. It's not really a firewall: there's no default route, http and ftp (over http) work via squid.

Re: Bug#46513: mutt: cannot open dhelp file '/usr/doc/mutt/html/.dhelp': at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 559.

1999-10-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 03, Lazarus Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cannot open dhelp file '/usr/doc/mutt/html/.dhelp': at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 559. This is a bug in install-docs, I think a newer version is needed. Please someone confirm. -- ciao, Marco

PGP/GPG Keys

1999-10-04 Thread Rene Mayrhofer
Hi all Is it possible to use a key created by pgp5 for package signing ? The key works for me when I use it with gpg, both the opposite is not true (e.g. pgp5 is unable to verify a signature created with a gpg key). I am no maintainer yet and so I want to start cleanly. What is the right way if I

should installed daemons automatically restart upon upgrade?

1999-10-04 Thread Colin Walters
In a parallel problem to this thread: I have gpm installed for those times when I am doing a lot of console work, but generally I don't run it because it interferes with Quake II, among other things. So I did an: update-rc.d -f gpm remove But when gpm was upgraded by apt, the package's

Unstable release

1999-10-04 Thread Staffan Hämälä
Hi, I'm just curious about how other people succeed in installing the potato release. Myself, I have always had _lots_ of trouble when trying that. First, I installed it at home, and dselect freaked out and started complaining over files that didn't exist. This was due to the fact that ftp

Re: ITP: Re: Must hand off XEmacs21 project!

1999-10-04 Thread Kurt D. Starsinic
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 06:49:59PM -0400, James LewisMoss wrote: I'll take it back. I've already got packages made (look at http://va.debian.org/~dres/xemacs21. They don't use your setup, but they work. And you could have offered it back knowing I had already made packages rather than

Re: ITW/P: freecati

1999-10-04 Thread A.J. Rossini
CS == Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CS On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 11:22:11PM -0500, Chris Lawrence CS wrote: For the unfamiliar, CATI programs are used to to conduct surveys over the telephone (although they can also be used in other contexts). Think of an

Re: Unstable release

1999-10-04 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 08:44:48PM +0200, Staffan Hämälä was heard to say: Hi, I'm just curious about how other people succeed in installing the potato release. *raises hand* I've actually done two things -- the machine I'm typing on has been running unstable since before Slink was

Re: should installed daemons automatically restart upon upgrade?

1999-10-04 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Colin Walters wrote: In a parallel problem to this thread: I have gpm installed for those times when I am doing a lot of console work, but generally I don't run it because it interferes with Quake II, among other things. So I did an: update-rc.d -f gpm remove But when gpm was upgraded

in.telnetd and virtual hosting

1999-10-04 Thread Marek Habersack
Hi, I'm trying to virtualize in.telnetd to access a chrooted virtual server (using tcp_wrappers' twist option and Wietse's chrootuid utility). Everything works just fine until the in.telnetd from chrooted location is execed. It tries to allocate a pty (via openpty() call), but receives an

Re: in.telnetd and virtual hosting

1999-10-04 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 10:18:51PM +0200, Marek Habersack was heard to say: I'm trying to virtualize in.telnetd to access a chrooted virtual server (using tcp_wrappers' twist option and Wietse's chrootuid utility). Everything works just fine until the in.telnetd from chrooted location is

Re: in.telnetd and virtual hosting

1999-10-04 Thread Marek Habersack
* Daniel Burrows said: On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 10:18:51PM +0200, Marek Habersack was heard to say: I'm trying to virtualize in.telnetd to access a chrooted virtual server (using tcp_wrappers' twist option and Wietse's chrootuid utility). Everything works just fine until the in.telnetd

Re: Unstable release

1999-10-04 Thread Rick
On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 08:44:48PM +0200, Staffan Hämälä was heard to say: I'm just curious about how other people succeed in installing the potato release. I do it with a fairly simple approach. I install the base Slink system, but on the

Re: in.telnetd and virtual hosting

1999-10-04 Thread Ryan Murray
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 10:40:26PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: presented with a login of the normal, non-virtual, server instead of the new, chrooted, one. Does anyone know what might be the cause of such behavior and perhaps knows a way to virtualize telnetd? I don't know a

Re: in.telnetd and virtual hosting

1999-10-04 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ryan Murray said: to work, although I have no idea how Linux would react to having to having multiple devpts filesystems mounted at once. Probably best to try and see :) Both proc and devpts are mounted. Doesn't matter whether I mount them Have you tried actually mounting them

Re: ITP: buglist?

1999-10-04 Thread Joey Hess
Thomas Schoepf wrote: Have you tried Ben's getbugs.pl? Is it good enough? I looked at it briefly, but it seemsed very slow. wget is easier. -- see shy jo

Re: should installed daemons automatically restart upon upgrade?

1999-10-04 Thread Herbert Xu
Colin Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a parallel problem to this thread: I have gpm installed for those times when I am doing a lot of console work, but generally I don't run it because it interferes with Quake II, among other things. So I did an: update-rc.d -f gpm remove Try editing