On 5 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: 05 Oct 1999 23:39:05 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Richard Kaszeta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: /usr/etc and /usr/local/etc?
Resent-Date: 5 Oct 1999 21:39:55 -
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 11:43:14AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
Should I rebuild the i386 binaries with the new xlib6g-dev
and upload them with .0.1 version number suffix? Or perhaps it
doesn't matter?
As far as xlib6g is concerned, I don't
On 05-Oct-99, 04:00 (CDT), Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree... Why does it [vim] have a lower priority in alternatives
than nvi?
I don't know. That's not what I remember from the discussion amongst the
various vi and editor maintainers when we set the relative priorities,
but
2.1.3-2 is one that does it ...
It doesn't totally kill the system .. It seems to start up the various wm's,
and they run at about 95% cpu and 88%+ memory for about 2-5 mins (each), but
they do die (or finish?) and everything is fine (my worst case, I saw
gnome-panel running at 95% for about 3
So that's what did that! It was not anywhere near as disastrous as
some of the things which update-xaw-wrappers has done to my system. In
any case, I grabbed the new menu from incoming.
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 08:13:41PM -0400, Terry Katz wrote:
2.1.3-2 is one that does it ...
It doesn't
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Johnie Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
... and would be willing to help at the Debian booth (#503, community
pavillion, check it out), or who knows good places to stay at in
Atlanta? Or who wants to planepool with the Novare team from
Dallas?
I'm going to
It doesn't totally kill the system .. It seems to start up the various wm's,
and they run at about 95% cpu and 88%+ memory for about 2-5 mins (each), but
they do die (or finish?) and everything is fine (my worst case, I saw
gnome-panel running at 95% for about 3 mins, then wmaker running at
I'm just looking to create some free time to put into other projects.
If no one wants these I'll just keep going, but updates will be seldom.
I'll sponsor new maintainers of these until they get their upload privs.
rtf2latex - simple C program. New upstream waiting at CTAN.
On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Colin Walters wrote:
The output format of dpkg -l is terrible. Many package names exceed
the measly 16 characters allotted. Many, many times when trying to
Yes.
what I really want to do is dpkg -l '*netscape*' | xargs dpkg --purge.
I recommend dpkg --get-selections
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 11:00:46AM +0100, Edward Betts wrote:
So how many other developers are not using unstable?
Raul Miller wrote:
Perhaps this should be taken up on another list, if you expect input
from more than a few people.
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 02:43:25PM -0700, Joey Hess
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 04:55:12PM -0400, Johnie Ingram wrote:
... and would be willing to help at the Debian booth (#503, community
pavillion, check it out), or who knows good places to stay at in
Atlanta? Or who wants to planepool with the Novare team from Dallas?
I'll be there for the
A. M. Varon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Could we have a potato mailing lists?
That's part of what debian-devel *is* for. Why would we want another
list for it?
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On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Brian May wrote:
[...]
What I really would like is a filesystem that can store a mime-type for
every file... That way no magic databases are required. In addition, the
kernel could be configured to assign default mime-types for different
file extensions, or something.
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 09:39:14PM +0200, Federico Di Gregorio wrote:
I state my complete lack of interest for tkstep, in both its
4.2 and 8.0 incarnations. 4.2 is now obsolete (as tk 4.2 is) and 8.0
is not kept updated by its upstream author. I use very few tk programs
myself, so i'd
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 12:14:11AM +0200, Ingo Saitz wrote:
Perhaps every postinst shold do something like this:
if test -e /etc/rc`runlevel | cut -d\ -f2`.d/S??$DAEMON; then
/etc/init.d/$DAEMON start
fi
This doesn't work for people using file-rc (which uses files to describe
Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A. M. Varon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Could we have a potato mailing lists?
That's part of what debian-devel *is* for. Why would we want another
list for it?
Ben answered on _debian-devel_, but not on _debian-user_; I hope he
doesn't mind my posting
On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Drake Diedrich wrote:
rtf2latex - simple C program. New upstream waiting at CTAN.
Excellent first package.
It'll technically be my second now, but first actually put into the
distro. ;p I would like to package rtf2latex. If you'd like to give it to
me let
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
tar -zxf control.tar.gz control ./control
You can also use
tar -zxf control.tar.gz *control
which does not produce an error, and extracts either one. This is the fix I
supplied for lintian when the tar upstream changed the way pathname
I have a package (debconf) that uses lib.pm. This is in perl-5.00[54]. It
depends on perl5. I just installed a fresh unstable system, using the
defaults. perl-5.004-base and perl-5.004 were installed, as was
perl-5.005-base. perl-5.005 itself was not installed. perl -v says perl
5.005 is being
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 10:27:00PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
I have a package (debconf) that uses lib.pm. This is in perl-5.00[54]. It
depends on perl5. I just installed a fresh unstable system, using the
defaults. perl-5.004-base and perl-5.004 were installed, as was
perl-5.005-base. perl-5.005
Package: procps
Version: 1:2.0.3-3
Preparing to replace procps 1:2.0.3-3 (using .../procps_1%3a2.0.3-4_i386.deb) ..
Anthony Towns wrote:
Huh? perl-5.005 is priority: important, and it doesn't seem to conflict
with anything else. How come it didn't get installed?
I dunno. I installed the base system from cd, went into dselect, selected
nothing that wasn't automatically selected, and installed, then went on to
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 02:24:35AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
Package: procps
Version: 1:2.0.3-3
Preparing to replace procps 1:2.0.3-3 (using .../procps_1%3a2.0.3-4_i386.deb)
..
.
Unpacking replacement procps ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/procps_1%3a2.0.3-4_i386.deb
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 11:28:34PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
Yick. Perhaps the alternative priorities could be arranged differently?
That doesn't address the real problem, which is that one version of perl may
be installed and satisfy the dependancy, while the alternatives system makes
another
Mirek Kwasniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 02:24:35AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
Package: procps
Version: 1:2.0.3-3
Preparing to replace procps 1:2.0.3-3 (using
.../procps_1%3a2.0.3-4_i386.deb) ..
.
Unpacking replacement procps ...
dpkg: error processing
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 07:15:10PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
As to why nvi is Standard and vim/elvis/etc. are Optional, it's
because nvi is closest to a standard, classic, BSD Bill Joy vi, warts
and all. Also, I think it's the smallest full-fledged vi. Certainly
Yes, and those are good
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 08:13:41PM -0400, Terry Katz wrote:
2.1.3-2 is one that does it ...
Seems to behave itself here. But then I only have fvwm2 installed,
none of these fancy new wms.
hamish
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Le Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 10:27:00PM -0700, Joey Hess écrivait:
What am I supposed to do? I could make debconf depend on perl-5.005, but it
really works with any version of perl 5. Also, if only perl-5.004-base,
perl-5.005, and perl-5.005-base were installed, and the alternatives pointed
On 5 Oct 1999, Ben Pfaff wrote:
A. M. Varon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Could we have a potato mailing lists?
That's part of what debian-devel *is* for. Why would we want another
list for it?
Maybe a debian-design would care of long-terms management and a
debian-devel would care of the
On Wednesday 6 October 1999, at 11 h 29, the keyboard of Drake Diedrich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
gtkglarea - I'm still using this, but if someone wants to lighten my load
it could go with gtkglareamm.
I maintain xt, which uses it. And another GtkGl library, which is no
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 10:45:59PM -0400, Steve Kostecke wrote:
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
Ciao *,
I state my complete lack of interest for tkstep, in both its
4.2 and 8.0 incarnations. 4.2 is now obsolete (as tk 4.2 is) and 8.0
is
Joseph Carter wrote:
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 10:13:51PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
Depends: libgl1 ; which doesn't exist
This exists in CVS. libGL.so.1 is what is used by the latest versions of
GLX and Mesa. I think the problem was coming up with a sane way to make
On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Branden Robinson wrote:
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 11:43:14AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
Should I rebuild the i386 binaries with the new xlib6g-dev
and upload them with .0.1 version number suffix? Or perhaps it
doesn't
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
Config files are, by their nature, host-specific, and should not be in
/usr
They are not. e.g. /etc/hosts should be the same across a pool. Nearly
all files in /etc can be shared and none should be rewritten on the
fly.
Agreed. My diskless package
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
Mmh. I like to think of the file utility as the standard reference. I didn't
knew about any other such databases. That apache uses file extensions is
bad, but it's reasonable for a browser which only serves a well defined set
of files.
Any program that
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 08:31:02PM +1000, Brian May wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
Config files are, by their nature, host-specific, and should not be in
/usr
They are not. e.g. /etc/hosts should be the same across a pool. Nearly
all files in /etc can be shared and none
[moved to -devel]
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 02:34:20AM -0400, Branden Robinson wrote:
I like this idea, but I think it is orthogonal to the existing bug
categories.
I don't know what you would call it, but I imagine a 4-way status switch:
unreproduced
reproduced
possible fix
known fix
What I really would like is a filesystem that can store a mime-type for
every file... That way no magic databases are required. In addition, the
kernel could be configured to assign default mime-types for different
file extensions, or something.
This would mean instead of having lots of
In addition, the
kernel could be configured to assign default mime-types for different
file extensions, or something.
You say a magic type database is a hack, and on the other hand file
exetensions are a better indicator? Phew. Microsoft uses file extension
(.tgz file if it can't recognize). I
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 10:27:00PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
What am I supposed to do? I could make debconf depend on perl-5.005, but it
really works with any version of perl 5. Also, if only perl-5.004-base,
perl-5.005, and perl-5.005-base were installed, and the alternatives pointed
But if we create _debian-user-unstable_, the _debian-user_ readers
would miss (would they care?) the discussions -- some of them
interesting -- about changes, and might therefore be less well
prepared to handle the upgrade to potato when it becomes stable.
So I obviously can't make up my
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 03:43:07AM -0700, Steve Bowman wrote:
I think if you are going to use /usr/etc, programs should first check
/etc, in case the system administrator wishes to override the sharable
config file for the given host.
This is a good idea for programs that live in /usr/bin
On 02 Oct 1999 18:49:59 -0400
Dres == James LewisMoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote...
Dres So, to all on devel consider this a ITP on xemacs21 and I would
Dres appreciate anyone who has a chance to test the packages. Apt line
Dres that should work: deb http://va.debian.org/~dres xemacs21/.
I tried
I could haul my printer in again. Also, I've got a real machine this
year... AMD K6-III 450MHz Viper 770, NetGear 10/100 NIC... 19 Optiquest
monitor.
Who's coordinating?
TIA -- Greg.
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* Filip == Filip Van Raemdonck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Filip IMO there's yet another issue to consider (which brings another
Filip complication with it): there may be people who will want both
Filip mesa and glx, if they own a Riva or Matrox + Voodoo* add-on
Filip board.
/me waves his hand.
Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 02, Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The patent makes it non-free, so does the new license.
Really? In my country RSA is not patented, why should I care about what
happens in someone else country?
Please have a look at our policy.
--
Debian
On Tue, 05 Oct 1999, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
If I could just get it installed properly (I run it at home,
but had to do a lot of manual tuning, and adding all packages
I wanted using dpkg --force*
NO, NO, NO, this is not redhat.com! Do this on a Debian only if you really
know what
On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Brian May wrote:
[snip]
- The information it proprietary, and not used anywhere else.
That's true...
- I am not very familar with the operating system, so there might
be more points that I have missed. Perhaps there are difficulties
loading a file for one application
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 09:20:32PM +1000, Brian May wrote:
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 03:43:07AM -0700, Steve Bowman wrote:
I think if you are going to use /usr/etc, programs should first check
/etc, in case the system administrator wishes to override the sharable
config file for the given
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 02:12:08PM +0200, Staffan Hämälä was heard to say:
NO, NO, NO, this is not redhat.com! Do this on a Debian only if you really
know what you are doing or you may destroy your system.
As far as I can see there is often not another way to do it.
Ie., program complains
On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Bdale Garbee wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
tar -zxf control.tar.gz control ./control
You can also use
tar -zxf control.tar.gz *control
which does not produce an error, and extracts either one. This is the fix I
supplied for lintian when
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 05:30:13AM -0700, Steve Bowman wrote:
BTW, I *like* the idea of moving stuff out of /etc to /usr/etc or
maybe /usr/local/etc. It's not the /etc is too big, it's too messy.
I just think that stuff in /bin and /sbin set an upper bound on what
can be moved without
Something else strange just happened during an autobuild pass. All of the
subdirectories in my build tree have suddenly become inaccessable to the
build user, who owns all the files and directories. Here is what I get:
--begin paste-
$ user
MoiN
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 12:37:48PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 12:14:11AM +0200, Ingo Saitz wrote:
Perhaps every postinst shold do something like this:
if test -e /etc/rc`runlevel | cut -d\ -f2`.d/S??$DAEMON; then
/etc/init.d/$DAEMON start
fi
This
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Something else strange just happened during an autobuild pass. All of the
subdirectories in my build tree have suddenly become inaccessable to the
build user, who owns all the files and directories. Here is what I get:
$ cd sbuild
sh: cd: sbuild:
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 02:02:57PM +, Dale Scheetz wrote:
Something else strange just happened during an autobuild pass. All of the
subdirectories in my build tree have suddenly become inaccessable to the
build user, who owns all the files and directories. Here is what I get:
drw-rw-r--
I think the Debian installation tools need something to monitor the load
average, to prevent systems from [ct]rashing during install. Cfr. sendmail
which stops processing mail when it detects that the load average is above a
specified threshold.
A lot of programs start update-menus in the
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 08:25:03PM +0900, Takuo KITAME wrote:
On 02 Oct 1999 18:49:59 -0400
Dres == James LewisMoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote...
Dres So, to all on devel consider this a ITP on xemacs21 and I would
Dres appreciate anyone who has a chance to test the packages. Apt line
Dres
Woohoo.. Just got the permission to skip two days from office for ALS. Will be
there with my machine.. Dual celeron (300 oc'd 450) with a 19' monitor. Who's
co ordinating...
Regards,
Vaidhy
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 07:30:30AM -0700, Greg Heather Vence wrote:
I could haul my printer in again.
MoiN
Uups, I forgot to include the actual skripts. So here they are:
Ingo
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start-rc.d.tgz
Description: GNU Unix tar archive
I have only noticed it on a slink machine, I ask someone who has
potatoes to test it too...
I am configuring one machine as a boot server in order to install
Debian in a PowerPC (IBM 43P) I have here, but one strange thing is happening.
bootpd gets the request and sends
Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 02:34:20AM -0400, Branden Robinson wrote:
[...]
unreproduced
reproduced
possible fix
known fix
Basically I see bug fixing as proceeding sequentially down this list.
There's a state above unreproduced, which is
Eduardo Marcel Macan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have only noticed it on a slink machine, I ask someone who has
potatoes to test it too...
I am configuring one machine as a boot server in order to install
Debian in a PowerPC (IBM 43P) I have here, but one strange thing is
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 02:02:57PM +, Dale Scheetz wrote:
Something else strange just happened during an autobuild pass. All of the
subdirectories in my build tree have suddenly become inaccessable to the
build user, who owns all the files and directories. Here is what I get:
On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Brian May wrote:
What I really would like is a filesystem that can store a mime-type for
every file... That way no magic databases are required. In addition, the
kernel could be configured to assign default mime-types for different
file extensions, or something.
On 6 Oct 1999, Ruud de Rooij wrote:
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Something else strange just happened during an autobuild pass. All of the
subdirectories in my build tree have suddenly become inaccessable to the
build user, who owns all the files and directories. Here is what I
Brian May wrote:
When you loaded that image, whether you used apache, gimp, xv, or
something else, it would automatically know what file type it is without
any excessive overhead.
In my opinion one of the best features of BeOS is that the file type is
an extra attribute stored at file system
I've got an 8 port 10/100 switch we can use also... Nothing fancy just
a NetGear box, but it works fine.
Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam wrote:
Woohoo.. Just got the permission to skip two days from office for ALS. Will
be there with my machine.. Dual celeron (300 oc'd 450) with a 19' monitor.
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 03:30:29PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman was heard to say:
Previously Daniel Burrows wrote:
My system upgrade today (from yesterday's potato to today's potato)
produced
the following odd output:
What version of dpkg do you have?
Wichert.
Currently 1.4.1.13 .
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 09:44:46AM +0200, Mirek Kwasniak wrote:
No, news bsdutils package is without kill.
Oh, wee, another portable program bites the dust.
Is the kill in procps linux specific, eg, does it make use of the proc
filesystem? This won't work in the Hurd, so the Hurd would be
I am trying to display a commercial app on a Debian System (the application
runs on a remote Solaris system). The application fails and crashes even the
X-Server on a potato system. Can anybody tell me what the appropiate procedure
is to report the bug (simply filing this message as a bug
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 05:21:31PM -0400, Andrew Pimlott was heard to say:
See bug 37252--I believe it is responsible for what you are seeking.
tkstep8.0 registers slave alternatives (under wish) for
/usr/man/man1/wish8.0.1.gz and /usr/bin/wish8.0 . This is bad because 1)
tk8.0 does not
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