Re: Debbugs and ACK messages

2002-04-03 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 03:56:06PM -0600, Michael Janssen wrote: In Joerg Jaspert's email, 03-04-2002: Doug Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suspect there will be enough people on both sides of this issue. How about defaulting to non-verbose behavior, and having a `-verbose'

Re: Description to man pages

2002-04-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 10:45:29PM +0200, Otto Wyss wrote: Since I hated to start dselect again and again just to read a package description I wrote a script dsc2man which creates appropriate man pages for each package. To minimize possible conflicts with other names it creates man pages in

Re: on potato's proftpd

2002-04-03 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Andrew Pimlott [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.04.03.1754 +0200]: There are several good reasons: - If a band-aid fix is allowed, there is less incentive to find the correct fix. true. doesn't mean that we have to fall into that hole. - If the problem isn't understood, there is

Re: on potato's proftpd

2002-04-03 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Andrew Pimlott [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.04.03.1805 +0200]: On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 10:54:25AM -0500, Andrew Pimlott wrote: I think Wichert's position ... reflects appropriate discipline, given the (relatively modest) severity of the problem. i also have to agree with you here

Re: on potato's proftpd

2002-04-03 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.04.03.0732 +0200]: well, i am calm, but i disagree. sure, it boils down to the question who debian's audience are, but for all i am concerned, debian's reputation _used_ to include security, and the reason why i'd (as in would and had)

Re: Debbugs and ACK messages

2002-04-03 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Colin Walters wrote: This gets tricky though, because right now the BTS isn't designed to do stuff depending on the submitter at all... It's simple, just stick a flag in the mail headers. And that flag is? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debbugs and ACK messages

2002-04-03 Thread Brian May
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 10:51:22PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Doug Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suspect there will be enough people on both sides of this issue. How about defaulting to non-verbose behavior, and having a `-verbose' variant of all the BTS addresses (or even the

Re: on potato's proftpd

2002-04-03 Thread Andrew Pimlott
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 01:09:27AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: this problem is understood by the developers of proftpd Wichert said that nobody has explained why the current fix on s.d.o doesn't work. If the problem is understood, why hasn't someone explained this? That's all that is asked,

Re: on potato's proftpd

2002-04-03 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 01:06:26AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: because it will prevent s.d.o from serving a buggy package. it's not fixed perfectly, but at least it's not subject to a known exploit. Could you be a little more careful with your terms? A DOS is not an exploit, it's a DOS. By

Re: Debbugs and ACK messages

2002-04-03 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I think we need a better way to specify flags. Especially because now we've got to worry about which comes first (or does it matter)? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ccache for the autobuilders?

2002-04-03 Thread Paul Russell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 02 April 2002 06:17, Ben Collins wrote: On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 03:48:49AM +0200, Paul Russell wrote: Looking at my testing PPC box with grep-available, we have only about 8GB total Installed-Size. So I would expect a ccache of 1GB

Re: ccache for the autobuilders?

2002-04-03 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Paul Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit: If this is indicative, a complete debian build would use 24GB, and I would say that a cache of a few GB would be a win (given not all packages get built as frequently). Also, a build farm could be optimized to usually build the same

xfree86 unbuildable on ppc

2002-04-03 Thread Jack Howarth
Hello, Could someone explain to me the point of releasing Xfree86 4.1.0-15 as is when clearly patch #065 was going to break builds on most non-intel arches? * patch #065: raped again by Herbert Xu and Ben Collins; you're not supposed to Build-Depend on a kernel package and at the same

clanlib shlibs broken

2002-04-03 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, clanlib package used to have a libclanlib.so.1, and since yesterday or so, it now has libclanlib.so.2. This will break upgrade from potato to woody. I am rather doubtful if this can be fixed before woody release, any thoughts ? regards, junichi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Junichi

Re: xfree86 unbuildable on ppc

2002-04-03 Thread Jack Howarth
Opps...that bug report associated with this problem is 141116 not 141114...sorry. Jack -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: libsmpeg0 *will* break if not doing upgrade/dist-upgrade from potato-woody [Was: Re: libsmpeg0 shlibs is broken, fix it or we shalt lose whatever.]

2002-04-03 Thread Joe Drew
On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 03:14, Anthony Towns wrote: The easiest solution is probably to add a Conflicts: line to libsmpeg0 against all the packages that used to Depend: on it in potato, which seems to be: Conflicts: libsmpeg-dev (= 0.3.5-1), smpeg-gtv (= 0.3.5-1),

Re: clanlib shlibs broken

2002-04-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 12:18:22PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: clanlib package used to have a libclanlib.so.1, and since yesterday or so, it now has libclanlib.so.2. This will break upgrade from potato to woody. I am rather doubtful if this can be fixed before woody release, any thoughts

Re: xfree86 unbuildable on ppc

2002-04-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 09:42:24PM -0500, Jack Howarth wrote: Hello, Could someone explain to me the point of releasing Xfree86 4.1.0-15 as is when clearly patch #065 was going to break builds on most non-intel arches? Actually, the patch was applied to FIX a problem with building xfree86

Re: xfree86 unbuildable on ppc

2002-04-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 11:34:26PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Apparently, if the Linux kernel driver guys renumber some ioctls, the right thing is for everybody's apps to break instantly. Err, brainfart -- scratch that point. Obviously this happens no matter where they're defined, because

Re: xfree86 unbuildable on ppc

2002-04-03 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 11:59:36PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 11:34:26PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Apparently, if the Linux kernel driver guys renumber some ioctls, the right thing is for everybody's apps to break instantly. Err, brainfart -- scratch that

Re: xfree86 unbuildable on ppc

2002-04-03 Thread Ben Collins
What we really should have is a nice low-level C library that encapsulates such things and lets anyone use it... All we really need is a master ioctl header that defines the numbers. It would be Debian specific, but what the hell. -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 -

Re: xfree86 unbuildable on ppc

2002-04-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 03:04:17PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: The kernel doesn't change ioctl numbers; they're actually competent at maintaining their interfaces. OTOH, they don't consider their headers such an interface, and they're happy to have them break randomly or not work from

Re: xfree86 unbuildable on ppc

2002-04-03 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 12:22:00AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 03:04:17PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: The kernel doesn't change ioctl numbers; they're actually competent at maintaining their interfaces. OTOH, they don't consider their headers such an interface,

Re: xfree86 unbuildable on ppc

2002-04-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 12:16:30AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: What we really should have is a nice low-level C library that encapsulates such things and lets anyone use it... All we really need is a master ioctl header that defines the numbers. It would be Debian specific, but what

Re: clanlib shlibs broken

2002-04-03 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 10:14:46PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 12:18:22PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: clanlib package used to have a libclanlib.so.1, and since yesterday or so, it now has libclanlib.so.2. This will break upgrade from potato to woody. I am rather

Re: Yo quero camisetaaaaaa

2002-04-03 Thread Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta
Yo tambien quiero! Mismo diseño que Vigu, mismo tamaño, mismo sitio. 2 unidades :-) Prefiero el negro de color. Montamos una votación de diseños-sitios-colores? Me ofrezco voluntario, los que tengan ideas que las manden, cuando esten todas votamos, etc... On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 10:38:30PM

Re: Yo quero camisetaaaaaa

2002-04-03 Thread Juan Alvarez
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 09:38:57AM +0200, Roberto Suarez Soto wrote: On Apr/02, Xavier Andrade wrote: Yo he visto algunas camisetas con la espiral sobre negro y se ve bastante bien. ¿Y en azul oscuro? Vi alguna así en algún sitio (sí, ya lo sé, soy muy preciso :-D) y tampoco

Re: Yo quero camisetaaaaaa

2002-04-03 Thread Ing. Salvador Fern�ndez
--- Roberto Suarez Soto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr/02, Xavier Andrade wrote: Yo he visto algunas camisetas con la espiral sobre negro y se ve bastante bien. ¿Y en azul oscuro? Vi alguna así en algún sitio (sí, ya lo sé, soy muy preciso :-D) y tampoco quedaba mal :-) Otra

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